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Is this admission fraud? AIBU to report it?

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grammarmom · 24/11/2025 16:21

Here's the situation.

We live in a grammar school catchment area that gets smaller every year. When we bought our house several years ago, it was very comfortably within the catchment for an excellent local grammar (very high in the league tables), and oh boy was it reflected in the price. Now we're right on the boundary. Among the thirty or so houses around us, some children got in last year and some didn't, literally a difference of a few yards.

Another child on our street, who is in the same class as my DC, only just passed the 11+ (a few points above the pass threshold). We live on the same road, but they are about 50 yards further from the school gate. Based on last year's distances, my child would likely get a place while theirs wouldn't.

Over the weekend, during a sleepover, the child mentioned that her mother has now rented a house much closer to the school to secure a higher priority for admission. The tenancy was apparently signed one day before the cut-off date, making it "legal" for admission purposes. She still owns their original home, but the story being presented is that relatives who were previously "homeless" will now live there free of charge, and all bills and utilities have been transferred into those relatives' names (I strongly suspect that the mother will in fact pay these bills as those relatives are penniless).

She's even moved the children's belongings to the rented property and makes them spend nights there (they hate it). There's no doubt that once the school place is obtained, they will move right back.

This effectively pushes my child down the priority list and means they may now miss out.

Would this constitute admissions fraud? It feels incredibly unfair that someone with £40k to spare for rent can effectively buy their way into a top grammar school, especially when their child didn't perform particularly well in the exam (despite being tutored for hours every day).

Should I report this? I have no more detail apart from what this child told me (and they obviously weren't too sure about some aspects of it due to age).

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27TimesAway · 24/11/2025 18:31

Daisymay1000 · 24/11/2025 18:25

No you shouldn’t report it. Why make a child suffer because of jealousy? The parents are doing their absolute best to give their child a good start in life from what you told us.

See this is what I don't get.

It's apparently okay to buy an overpriced house in good catchment areas. This driving up house prices artificially.

It's apparently okay to cheat the system by gaming it as the OP describes.

All on the altar of a parent doing their best for their children.

Yet people who are actually HONEST about doing the best for their children by paying for a private school that meets their childrens' needs... that's despicable. That's immoral. That deserves censure.

Hypocrisy much?

Donttellempike · 24/11/2025 18:31

grammarmom · 24/11/2025 16:21

Here's the situation.

We live in a grammar school catchment area that gets smaller every year. When we bought our house several years ago, it was very comfortably within the catchment for an excellent local grammar (very high in the league tables), and oh boy was it reflected in the price. Now we're right on the boundary. Among the thirty or so houses around us, some children got in last year and some didn't, literally a difference of a few yards.

Another child on our street, who is in the same class as my DC, only just passed the 11+ (a few points above the pass threshold). We live on the same road, but they are about 50 yards further from the school gate. Based on last year's distances, my child would likely get a place while theirs wouldn't.

Over the weekend, during a sleepover, the child mentioned that her mother has now rented a house much closer to the school to secure a higher priority for admission. The tenancy was apparently signed one day before the cut-off date, making it "legal" for admission purposes. She still owns their original home, but the story being presented is that relatives who were previously "homeless" will now live there free of charge, and all bills and utilities have been transferred into those relatives' names (I strongly suspect that the mother will in fact pay these bills as those relatives are penniless).

She's even moved the children's belongings to the rented property and makes them spend nights there (they hate it). There's no doubt that once the school place is obtained, they will move right back.

This effectively pushes my child down the priority list and means they may now miss out.

Would this constitute admissions fraud? It feels incredibly unfair that someone with £40k to spare for rent can effectively buy their way into a top grammar school, especially when their child didn't perform particularly well in the exam (despite being tutored for hours every day).

Should I report this? I have no more detail apart from what this child told me (and they obviously weren't too sure about some aspects of it due to age).

No. Grammar schools are inherently unfair. Which is the whole point of them

takeme2thelakes · 24/11/2025 18:30

You’re getting angry about something that probably won’t even happen.

The most likely outcome is either that a) DS and his friend are both within the catchment area and get in, or b) both end up outside the catchment area and go elsewhere.

What’s the point of getting so worked up about a hypothetical scenario that probably won’t happen?

puppymaddness · 24/11/2025 18:30

Ionacat · 24/11/2025 18:26

Under most local authorities school admissions arrangements, this would be fraud and not legal. You have to have either disposed of your own property or it has to be a situation where you can’t possibly travel back e.g. you’ve moved 100 miles away. You need to check the rules for your own local authority. You can report also anonymously. If it’s within the rules then nothing will happen, if it’s not well, then it’s probably best reported now, where they have time to use her main address rather than get a place and have it removed after offers day.

If you know, then others will know and I bet if you haven’t reported, someone else will.

You have to have either disposed of your own property or it has to be a situation where you can’t possibly travel back e.g. you’ve moved 100 miles away.

really?? Can you reference this? Sounds absurd!

Jenkibubble · 24/11/2025 18:29

Clause1980 · 24/11/2025 18:18

I failed my 11+ and went to a terrible secondary school. It didn't stop me getting the highest grade A'levels, admission to a top University and a professional career (incidentally getting higher grades than my friends who did pass). If your children are smart and you value education as a family, they can still do well at a "lesser" school.

100 this
Do not write your kids off !
Do not underestimate the impact of high expectations and parental contribution !
I know kids who have followed high achieving older siblings into academic schools and they have not fitted the expectations / crumbled!

Celestialmoods · 24/11/2025 18:28

grammarmom · 24/11/2025 17:45

We're right on the edge of the catchment. Based on last year's "furthest distance offered" and what happened with our immediate neighbours, my child would likely have received a place while hers wouldn't. Of course, no one can predict exactly how the catchment boundary will shift this year. Hope this clarifies.

How do you think this is any fairer than what she is doing? Blame the game, not the players.

School places aren’t rightfully anyone’s. You need to stop thinking that your children is more deserving than hers. He isn’t. You lost my sympathy when you talked about his score on the 11+. If he passed he passed, and you have said that the school considers all passes equally when allocating places.

HopelesslyNaive98 · 24/11/2025 18:28

Wouldn’t an independent school be more cost effective?

puppymaddness · 24/11/2025 18:27

grammarmom · 24/11/2025 18:20

She's a single mother, so no, she is not separating from a husband. And the family moving in will be massively over-housed, three people in a five-bedroom place, so makes zero sense.

And the family moving in will be massively over-housed, three people in a five-bedroom place

How you think this is any of your business is beyond me.

Shatteredallthetimelately · 24/11/2025 18:27

I live in an area where all the schools are very good and this practice happens a lot.

It's only the primary/secondary schools that take a dim view on this and the chances are your DC's place will be revoked...

The Grammer schools have been told but don't do anything, infact the head of one denied any parent of a DC at their school would do this.

Megifer · 24/11/2025 18:27

grammarmom · 24/11/2025 18:15

Yes, I'm assuming they still live in the old house most, or at least some, of the time. I've just looked out the window, and the mum's car is parked outside there, with the ground dry underneath it.

Thats some research-worthy eyesight you have to be able to see dry ground under a car, from a window, at 6.15pm, on a late November evening.

Hiptothisjive · 24/11/2025 18:26

grammarmom · 24/11/2025 17:58

I honestly can't believe people genuinely think that. We bought this house when my eldest was still in Infants, long before we had any idea whether they'd even be grammar-school material. Sure, the school was one of many nice aspects of the area, but so were the local lovely park and the easy commute. That's a far cry from scrambling to rent a place after a child only just scraped a pass (in an exam their own mother expected them to fail), isn't it?

You continue to dig your own hole. You have admitted that the local school is crap and that the school was a reason.

And just before you get all entitled again and make a complaint. Consider that since you don’t actually know if either of your children got in and hers might have anyway you are basically saying that someone potentially in catchment bought another house in catchment and let their refugee family from a war torn country live in their original house. Either way she still may have got in. It wasn’t like they moved from another town.

Go ahead and complain. Based on the above since neither of you know yet if you got in you will just look vindictive and foolish.

Ionacat · 24/11/2025 18:26

Under most local authorities school admissions arrangements, this would be fraud and not legal. You have to have either disposed of your own property or it has to be a situation where you can’t possibly travel back e.g. you’ve moved 100 miles away. You need to check the rules for your own local authority. You can report also anonymously. If it’s within the rules then nothing will happen, if it’s not well, then it’s probably best reported now, where they have time to use her main address rather than get a place and have it removed after offers day.

If you know, then others will know and I bet if you haven’t reported, someone else will.

Daisymay1000 · 24/11/2025 18:25

grammarmom · 24/11/2025 16:21

Here's the situation.

We live in a grammar school catchment area that gets smaller every year. When we bought our house several years ago, it was very comfortably within the catchment for an excellent local grammar (very high in the league tables), and oh boy was it reflected in the price. Now we're right on the boundary. Among the thirty or so houses around us, some children got in last year and some didn't, literally a difference of a few yards.

Another child on our street, who is in the same class as my DC, only just passed the 11+ (a few points above the pass threshold). We live on the same road, but they are about 50 yards further from the school gate. Based on last year's distances, my child would likely get a place while theirs wouldn't.

Over the weekend, during a sleepover, the child mentioned that her mother has now rented a house much closer to the school to secure a higher priority for admission. The tenancy was apparently signed one day before the cut-off date, making it "legal" for admission purposes. She still owns their original home, but the story being presented is that relatives who were previously "homeless" will now live there free of charge, and all bills and utilities have been transferred into those relatives' names (I strongly suspect that the mother will in fact pay these bills as those relatives are penniless).

She's even moved the children's belongings to the rented property and makes them spend nights there (they hate it). There's no doubt that once the school place is obtained, they will move right back.

This effectively pushes my child down the priority list and means they may now miss out.

Would this constitute admissions fraud? It feels incredibly unfair that someone with £40k to spare for rent can effectively buy their way into a top grammar school, especially when their child didn't perform particularly well in the exam (despite being tutored for hours every day).

Should I report this? I have no more detail apart from what this child told me (and they obviously weren't too sure about some aspects of it due to age).

No you shouldn’t report it. Why make a child suffer because of jealousy? The parents are doing their absolute best to give their child a good start in life from what you told us.

User5306921 · 24/11/2025 18:25

grammarmom · 24/11/2025 18:20

She's a single mother, so no, she is not separating from a husband. And the family moving in will be massively over-housed, three people in a five-bedroom place, so makes zero sense.

You simply can't prove any of this.

What she has done is legal She is playing the system just as you played the system by buying there in the first place.

SouthLondonMum22 · 24/11/2025 18:24

Bananaandmangosmoothie · 24/11/2025 18:20

You also tried to buy your child a place at the school by moving within what you believed was the catchment area.

What was she meant to do? Deliberately move to an area with a terrible school for the greater good?

Well, exactly.

If you have money, you have an advantage and the system means that those who can afford the expensive catchment areas will buy their way in to the best grammar areas, state school areas etc

In this case, someone else has more money and has used it to their advantage and OP doesn't like it.

OneFunBrickNewt · 24/11/2025 18:22

Legal- just.
Unethical- very

grammarmom · 24/11/2025 18:20

User5306921 · 24/11/2025 18:13

If it isn't illegal and it isn't, then it isn't fraud.

I know people who used grandparent's addresses and didn't even live in the country at the time of applying. They still got a place.

She may well move into the rental for a year and then move back. And she absolutely won't be the only person doing it either.

School boundaries change with every new housing development. Unfortunately you bought a house that is more affected than others.

You can't do anything about it and you cannot possibly know all the circumstances around it. She can say she split up from her husband, she can say the original house no longer suits her needs.

Around here, the rules have changed to say if your first child got into the school, and you then move out of the area, the younger children won't get in.

She's a single mother, so no, she is not separating from a husband. And the family moving in will be massively over-housed, three people in a five-bedroom place, so makes zero sense.

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Figgygal · 24/11/2025 18:20

Chris what a load of fuss and upheaval for a grammar school

Bananaandmangosmoothie · 24/11/2025 18:20

isthesolution · 24/11/2025 18:16

Perfectly legal. As long as it is the child’s main residence at the admission deadline and until the place is offered (in some areas it is until the child starts the school)

You also tried to buy your child a place at the school by moving within what you believed was the catchment area.

You also tried to buy your child a place at the school by moving within what you believed was the catchment area.

What was she meant to do? Deliberately move to an area with a terrible school for the greater good?

Busybeemumm · 24/11/2025 18:20

Catpiece · 24/11/2025 16:38

The absolute desperation of some parents. I’ve heard it all now.

It's very common. I know several families who rented near my DC top state primary school to get in. Soon as they were in they moved back to their old place where they had lived for years. All openly done!

Dery · 24/11/2025 18:19

“WeegieWe · Today 18:13

grammarmom · Today 17:14
Oh absolutely. The friendship is over after this.
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I sincerely hope you are referring to the adult friendships only here OP. Although it has everything to do with your DS and his friend, conversely it also has nothing to do with them. It would be incredibly cruel and unfair to make them end their friendship because of an issue they have no control over and to impose adult issues on them.”

@WeegieWe - i agree with you but i think OP must accept the children’s friendship will likely be terminated by this.

How can it survive when the OP has terminated her friendship with the mother (which may require some explaining)? And particularly if the mother finds out who made the report, which would surely be possible - how can the children’s friendship survive?

hermanne · 24/11/2025 18:18

IF it is the area/school I think it is (and I appreciate that it might not be) I have some harsh truths for you OP.

Just let it go. To put it in your own terms, it's always the parents scrabbling about with mediocre test scores that backstab each other and talk about children in this awful way. If your child had got high enough scores you wouldn't have to stoop to this level as they could have walked in on an academic place. You and your friend, and your son and his friend, are exactly the same, however disparagingly you talk of them.

Clause1980 · 24/11/2025 18:18

grammarmom · 24/11/2025 16:57

Yes, unfortunately the only alternative school for my DC is genuinely crap. And it's not just about one child, if the eldest doesn't get in, the younger two won't benefit from sibling priority (which would counteract the shrinking catchment), so the whole family is essentially f**d.

I failed my 11+ and went to a terrible secondary school. It didn't stop me getting the highest grade A'levels, admission to a top University and a professional career (incidentally getting higher grades than my friends who did pass). If your children are smart and you value education as a family, they can still do well at a "lesser" school.

Suednymph · 24/11/2025 18:18

Legal or not it is immoral and honestly I would be disgusted although I have to say the fact the child knows so much about the situation is a bit of a weird one for me. Are you sure that this is actually happening? And not that maybe the parents are divorcing and have gotten a second home close to the school for the transition after they split and have not told the kids?
How long before you find out whether your child has a place or not?

isthesolution · 24/11/2025 18:16

Perfectly legal. As long as it is the child’s main residence at the admission deadline and until the place is offered (in some areas it is until the child starts the school)

You also tried to buy your child a place at the school by moving within what you believed was the catchment area.

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