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Is this admission fraud? AIBU to report it?

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grammarmom · 24/11/2025 16:21

Here's the situation.

We live in a grammar school catchment area that gets smaller every year. When we bought our house several years ago, it was very comfortably within the catchment for an excellent local grammar (very high in the league tables), and oh boy was it reflected in the price. Now we're right on the boundary. Among the thirty or so houses around us, some children got in last year and some didn't, literally a difference of a few yards.

Another child on our street, who is in the same class as my DC, only just passed the 11+ (a few points above the pass threshold). We live on the same road, but they are about 50 yards further from the school gate. Based on last year's distances, my child would likely get a place while theirs wouldn't.

Over the weekend, during a sleepover, the child mentioned that her mother has now rented a house much closer to the school to secure a higher priority for admission. The tenancy was apparently signed one day before the cut-off date, making it "legal" for admission purposes. She still owns their original home, but the story being presented is that relatives who were previously "homeless" will now live there free of charge, and all bills and utilities have been transferred into those relatives' names (I strongly suspect that the mother will in fact pay these bills as those relatives are penniless).

She's even moved the children's belongings to the rented property and makes them spend nights there (they hate it). There's no doubt that once the school place is obtained, they will move right back.

This effectively pushes my child down the priority list and means they may now miss out.

Would this constitute admissions fraud? It feels incredibly unfair that someone with £40k to spare for rent can effectively buy their way into a top grammar school, especially when their child didn't perform particularly well in the exam (despite being tutored for hours every day).

Should I report this? I have no more detail apart from what this child told me (and they obviously weren't too sure about some aspects of it due to age).

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grammarmom · 24/11/2025 19:20

Poppyseeds79 · 24/11/2025 19:13

I seriously doubt this child just spontaneously decided to have a chat regarding the rental house contract being signed a "day before cut off", and that they've moved there to ensure they secure a place at the school 😂

Far more likely Mum has just told them they're renting a house to help their relatives out, and that's it. I think you've concocted the rest of the story, and then grilled a kid to twist it to your own narrative.

No doubt the Mum has done it to skew the system, but if it's legal (that's the only bit that counts). Then it's tough tit really.

No, I didn't make anything up. The child is simply chatty and tends to overshare. They told me their mum was very stressed dealing with the letting agency and was angry with someone on the phone, saying the move had to happen by tomorrow because of the local authority deadline. They also mentioned how she told them it would be great because the school is right next door - it's about a 30-minute trip from here. The whole conversation started because they said they now have to spend nights in this new house, which they described as an absolute dump with terrible internet. And that Auntie X now lives in the old house.

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modgepodge · 24/11/2025 19:20

All these people saying ‘she played the game better than you’ - she may not have done. I promise you, many grammar schools won’t fall for this.

this is from a grammar school in bucks’ admissions policy:
b. If a family still owns a property within 20 miles of the school which has been the main family home, a property closer to the school will not be accepted as the basis for a legitimate residence qualification even if the former property is leased to a third party.

and this from a grammar school in Reading:

If the main address has changed temporarily, for example where a family is renting a property on a Short Term Tenancy Agreement, then the parental address remains that at which the parent was resident before the period of temporary residence began unless it can be shown that all ties to the previous address have been relinquished, or that the move is not easily reversible. The Governors may refuse to base an allocation on an address which might be considered only a temporary address or an address of convenience.

I’d at least call the school/council anonymously OP, and see if what they have done is acceptable. I’m not sure if legal comes in to it, but the schools own admission policy does.

quantumbutterfly · 24/11/2025 19:19

Crochetandtea · 24/11/2025 19:10

Good study habits - you mean memorising data?

No. Learning by rote doesn't help understanding, it may get the info in but doesn't help you use it. Problem solving with informed feedback does that. There are also various memory strategies that can be learnt.

People process information in different ways, you find your own strengths and weaknesses and work with them. You also need to develop the self discipline to apply yourself when you may not have the motivation. Imo participating in a sport is the epitome of this.

GrimShady · 24/11/2025 19:17

Funnywonder · 24/11/2025 17:30

especially when their child didn't perform particularly well in the exam (despite being tutored for hours every day).

This is the point at which I lost sympathy. Was there any need for this?

exactly. I would like to see the OP son pass the 11+ in a second language.

User5306921 · 24/11/2025 19:16

Ionacat · 24/11/2025 18:26

Under most local authorities school admissions arrangements, this would be fraud and not legal. You have to have either disposed of your own property or it has to be a situation where you can’t possibly travel back e.g. you’ve moved 100 miles away. You need to check the rules for your own local authority. You can report also anonymously. If it’s within the rules then nothing will happen, if it’s not well, then it’s probably best reported now, where they have time to use her main address rather than get a place and have it removed after offers day.

If you know, then others will know and I bet if you haven’t reported, someone else will.

Can you link the source for this 'fact'. I think you will find you can't......

ittakes2 · 24/11/2025 19:16

what happened last year might not happen this year ie you have no idea how many kids in catchment there are who get in. Last year might have been a higher birth year.

CuddlyPug · 24/11/2025 19:14

I'd report. If it's so above board and so on, then nothing will happen. I don't think it's above board at all though.

Poppyseeds79 · 24/11/2025 19:13

I seriously doubt this child just spontaneously decided to have a chat regarding the rental house contract being signed a "day before cut off", and that they've moved there to ensure they secure a place at the school 😂

Far more likely Mum has just told them they're renting a house to help their relatives out, and that's it. I think you've concocted the rest of the story, and then grilled a kid to twist it to your own narrative.

No doubt the Mum has done it to skew the system, but if it's legal (that's the only bit that counts). Then it's tough tit really.

Sayyaya · 24/11/2025 19:13

I think I misunderstood your OP.
She owns house A, her relatives have moved in with bills in relatives name.
She rents house B, with kids belongings and overnight stays there. And bills in her name.
Is she still living in house A or living house B? If she’s in B full time then probably legit. If she’s still in house A and pretending to be in house B I think that would be worth reporting because she’s probably breaking rules, but I guess that depends on the rules of your LA.

Bananaandmangosmoothie · 24/11/2025 19:12

Lougle · 24/11/2025 19:08

If it is Barnett, their admissions brochure is very clear that if you have lived in a property in the last two years and still own it, then that property will count as the permanent residence.

So if a mother moves out of a family home with the children because she separates from the father, and into a rental property closer to a particular school, but the divorce has not yet been finalised, the children would not get the school place? That seems very unfair on top of everything else the hypothetical children would be dealing with.

SouthLondonMum22 · 24/11/2025 19:11

Crochetandtea · 24/11/2025 19:09

The logical arrangement would be for the other family to move into the rental.

Not if they can't afford it.

2021x · 24/11/2025 19:11

oooooo I remember going through all of this when I was 10. I refused to have a tutor as I thought it was unfair but my mum still made me do practice papers every Saturday morning.

I did the same with GCSEs and ALevels and found out even much cleverer people had private tutors to get the grades to get into their preferred university.

Also don't get me started on the fact because I was getting B's instead of A's the whole drama about getting me tested for Dyslexia etc....

Crochetandtea · 24/11/2025 19:10

quantumbutterfly · 24/11/2025 19:07

Sometimes it's about fostering good study habits. A lot of bright children have poor study habits and it lets them down on tests.

Good study habits - you mean memorising data?

SuperSue77 · 24/11/2025 19:10

My understanding is that what she has done would be looked upon very seriously by the local authority (could depend on the authority) and they could remove the school place - not fun for the child to be prepared to start at a school and then get removed once the LEA investigates.
The case above about a woman having her fraud case dropped only means she wasn't sued for her deception, it doesn't say whether the child lost their school place, which I suspect they did if the LEA were prepared to take it as far as they did.

grammarmom · 24/11/2025 19:10

Crochetandtea · 24/11/2025 19:09

The logical arrangement would be for the other family to move into the rental.

THANK YOU.

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Trixibell1234 · 24/11/2025 19:10

Cycleaway · 24/11/2025 18:34

but surely the 11+ pass mark is the main thing that determines the priority ranking? I guess it depends on the area, but where I live, that’s how it works. Did your child get the same marks?

We have grammars and if you pass and get over a certain amount, then it’s distance. It’s so the school is for local kids, rather than for kids from 30, 40 miles away.

Bedtelly · 24/11/2025 19:10

It's all nonsense you thought you'd bought your way in by paying over the odds for a house and therefore putting your son above poorer people who couldn't afford to do so. Now she's bought her way in putting her son above yours. The consequence of a silly system.

Crochetandtea · 24/11/2025 19:09

SouthLondonMum22 · 24/11/2025 19:00

I wouldn't want to live with relatives unless I absolutely had to. Why would it be the logical arrangement if they can clearly afford a rental in the same area?

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The logical arrangement would be for the other family to move into the rental.

Lougle · 24/11/2025 19:08

If it is Barnett, their admissions brochure is very clear that if you have lived in a property in the last two years and still own it, then that property will count as the permanent residence.

Is this admission fraud? AIBU to report it?
quantumbutterfly · 24/11/2025 19:07

Crochetandtea · 24/11/2025 18:56

But you can’t buy brains. Tutoring can only do so much.

Sometimes it's about fostering good study habits. A lot of bright children have poor study habits and it lets them down on tests.

Livpool · 24/11/2025 19:06

YABU

At the moment, they DO live there! OP is just annoyed that they played the game better than her. And questioning a child is pathetic.

Should renters not be able to apply in case they move?!

FlorenceAndTheVagine · 24/11/2025 19:05

I’d have a lot more sympathy for you if you weren’t so determined to tell us how your child is intellectually superior (so magnanimously tutoring the little thicko over the road) to her cabbage-brained oik. Vile.

RandomUsernameHere · 24/11/2025 19:05

It completely depends on the school’s admissions policy. Sometimes they state that a rental address can’t be used for admission purposes if another property is owned.

Crochetandtea · 24/11/2025 19:04

grammarmom · 24/11/2025 17:45

We're right on the edge of the catchment. Based on last year's "furthest distance offered" and what happened with our immediate neighbours, my child would likely have received a place while hers wouldn't. Of course, no one can predict exactly how the catchment boundary will shift this year. Hope this clarifies.

Report it. She has played a dirty game. Now it’s your turn. I wouldn’t be happy if my more able child lost a place to a less able child whose mum cheated the system. Yes you bought the house but you’re not considering renting another to guarantee entry. The fact the main house is being rented and to family should go in your favour. I wouldn’t let it drop.

CinnamonJellyBeans · 24/11/2025 19:04

I'd check the admissions policy carefully, to see if this loophole is covered and report it to the school.