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Is this admission fraud? AIBU to report it?

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grammarmom · 24/11/2025 16:21

Here's the situation.

We live in a grammar school catchment area that gets smaller every year. When we bought our house several years ago, it was very comfortably within the catchment for an excellent local grammar (very high in the league tables), and oh boy was it reflected in the price. Now we're right on the boundary. Among the thirty or so houses around us, some children got in last year and some didn't, literally a difference of a few yards.

Another child on our street, who is in the same class as my DC, only just passed the 11+ (a few points above the pass threshold). We live on the same road, but they are about 50 yards further from the school gate. Based on last year's distances, my child would likely get a place while theirs wouldn't.

Over the weekend, during a sleepover, the child mentioned that her mother has now rented a house much closer to the school to secure a higher priority for admission. The tenancy was apparently signed one day before the cut-off date, making it "legal" for admission purposes. She still owns their original home, but the story being presented is that relatives who were previously "homeless" will now live there free of charge, and all bills and utilities have been transferred into those relatives' names (I strongly suspect that the mother will in fact pay these bills as those relatives are penniless).

She's even moved the children's belongings to the rented property and makes them spend nights there (they hate it). There's no doubt that once the school place is obtained, they will move right back.

This effectively pushes my child down the priority list and means they may now miss out.

Would this constitute admissions fraud? It feels incredibly unfair that someone with £40k to spare for rent can effectively buy their way into a top grammar school, especially when their child didn't perform particularly well in the exam (despite being tutored for hours every day).

Should I report this? I have no more detail apart from what this child told me (and they obviously weren't too sure about some aspects of it due to age).

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Dontwantanicknamethanks · 24/11/2025 19:43

Inner Area
The school will only admit students from the published Inner Area as shown below:
The Inner Area means applicants whose Main Address is in the following postcode areas; E2, E4, E5, E8, E9, E17,
EN1, EN2, EN3, EN4, EN5 (Sectors 1, 2, 4, 5 only), EN8 (Sectors 7, 8, 9 only), N1 (not N1C), N2, N3, N4, N5, N6,
N7, N8, N9, N10, N11, N12, N13, N14, N15, N16, N17, N18, N19, N20, N21, N22. There is no preference within
this list. Only children residing in one of these postcodes will be admitted to the school.
Main Address means the place at which the applicant spends the weekday nights in the ordinary course of
events.
Priority is given to those applicants who are resident in the Inner Area as of 7 January 2026. Therefore,
applicants living outside of our published Inner Area at the time of registering for the assessment tests, must
provide evidence of their new Inner Area address by the 7 January 2026 if they wish to be considered for
admission to the school.
Shared Care
When parents live separately the application must be based on the address at which the child usually lives and
from which he or she attends primary school. When parents live separately but the child lives equally with both
parents at different addresses, the child’s home address must be mainly within our Published Inner Area. For
example, if one parent resides within the postcode area N22 and the other parent resides within the postcode
area HA3, the school will consider the application if the main address is the in N22 postcode area.
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grammarmom · 24/11/2025 19:43

User5306921 · 24/11/2025 19:41

You didn't think about doing it at the time and already said she had an 'extra 40K'.

How would you feel if local people said you didn't deserve the grammar school because they were priced out of the area because people with more money bought the houses instead.

There is no 'end' to this other than improving all the schools so there isn't such a huge disparity between them.

No. I didn't, because that would have been outright dishonesty. I've never cheated in an exam either, even when I easily could have. Stupid me.

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RubySquid · 24/11/2025 19:42

Megifer · 24/11/2025 16:33

"It feels incredibly unfair that someone with £40k to spare for rent can effectively buy their way into a top grammar school, especially when their child didn't perform particularly well in the exam (despite being tutored for hours every day)."

But you buying a house to get in the catchment meaning someone who may have lived in the area for far longer could lose out to you is absolutely fine?

Shes played the game and done it better.

MyDDs grammar school have people come in from the next county. Not sure if really had a catchment area

User5306921 · 24/11/2025 19:41

grammarmom · 24/11/2025 19:26

No, I wouldn't. I could have easily afforded to do the same, but I didn't.

You didn't think about doing it at the time and already said she had an 'extra 40K'.

How would you feel if local people said you didn't deserve the grammar school because they were priced out of the area because people with more money bought the houses instead.

There is no 'end' to this other than improving all the schools so there isn't such a huge disparity between them.

Crochetandtea · 24/11/2025 19:41

AutumnLeavesandKnittedJumpers · 24/11/2025 19:40

It’s legal. Get over it

Not necessarily legal depending on the area.

SomersetBrie · 24/11/2025 19:40

User5306921 · 24/11/2025 19:16

Can you link the source for this 'fact'. I think you will find you can't......

Surrey seems to be a council where you can't own and rent.

AutumnLeavesandKnittedJumpers · 24/11/2025 19:40

It’s legal. Get over it

Crochetandtea · 24/11/2025 19:39

SouthLondonMum22 · 24/11/2025 19:37

She can absolutely report her but then she may have to accept that decision will likely lose her DC their best friend.

It also depends on the LA. If OP has studied the admissions and policies very carefully then chances are this mum has too and she may very well have found a legal loophole.

Edited

Meh , friends come and go! There’s always a chance she missed something. The op has absolutely nothing to lose by reporting it.

SouthLondonMum22 · 24/11/2025 19:37

Crochetandtea · 24/11/2025 19:34

If it’s unfair then the gloves are off. Report her op! I wouldn’t let this go! As you said it’s all fair game when your own children are involved.

She can absolutely report her but then she may have to accept that decision will likely lose her DC their best friend.

It also depends on the LA. If OP has studied the admissions and policies very carefully then chances are this mum has too and she may very well have found a legal loophole.

Crochetandtea · 24/11/2025 19:36

Lastfroginthebox · 24/11/2025 19:34

To see these sort of shenanigans with people elbowing others out of the way to gain an advantage is just nauseating. You should both be ashamed of yourselves.

So the op should just lie down and accept the status quo? Screw that. Every man for himself! We think we’re so morally superior but we’re essentially animals when it comes to protecting our young.

GrimShady · 24/11/2025 19:35

This could be used as a case study regarding the abysmal state of education in this country. And the OP and her friend could be used as examples of the worst kind of parental behaviour. I think they are actually both as bad as each other in different ways.

I would not report anything. The other mum will of course know it’s you. And I would just feel too sneaky, like the tell-tale busybodies during Covid. Embarrassing.

Lastfroginthebox · 24/11/2025 19:34

To see these sort of shenanigans with people elbowing others out of the way to gain an advantage is just nauseating. You should both be ashamed of yourselves.

kazzakon · 24/11/2025 19:34

Yes you should report it. The council with have a way you can do this on an anon basis. This happened to us, we didn't get a place at our local primary school due to people renting second residences/ using parents addresses etc. My understanding is they can't take a place away after the child has started but can change decisions if it is clear they have lied about main residence, before the start date.

Crochetandtea · 24/11/2025 19:34

SouthLondonMum22 · 24/11/2025 19:28

They will be able to afford it if the mum is charging a lower rent which is possible because she owns the house but obviously wouldn't be possible in a rental property where the landlord is a stranger.

Of course the mum is playing the system but anyone who can buy their way into an expensive catchment area is to a certain extent. Plenty of DC out there who would get into the grammar school if their parents had money to buy their way into the catchment area.

The system is based on unfairness, people just don't like it when it involves THEIR child.

If it’s unfair then the gloves are off. Report her op! I wouldn’t let this go! As you said it’s all fair game when your own children are involved.

SunnyDolly · 24/11/2025 19:32

OP, this happens around me all the time. Especially as new builds pop up constantly and push everyone else further and further out.
Honestly my view is if people can afford it and are willing to go to the effort then why not, it isn’t fraud and some days I think if I had disposable income like that I’d do it too. Nothing will come of reporting whatsoever and please don’t allow your son to fall out with his friend over it!

Andfinallyphew · 24/11/2025 19:30

You need to name change @grammarmom

CoraLea · 24/11/2025 19:30

Just mind your own business.

bignewprinz · 24/11/2025 19:30

At this level of effort, the child deserves the space.

(this happens all the time round by me btw - I wouldn't dream of reporting)

Ella31 · 24/11/2025 19:28

Saddest thing here are the two best friends who are probably going to be ripped apart.

SouthLondonMum22 · 24/11/2025 19:28

Crochetandtea · 24/11/2025 19:20

If they’re refugees I doubt they can afford the other mum’s house either. Now you’re just clutching at straws. The other mum played the system. I hope the op plays back.

During Covid my youngest didn’t have the opportunity to sit his AQE ( NI 11 plus equivalent) because of some dickhead parent and their crap reasoning about it being unfair due to Covid. You can bet I’m still bitter that I watched less able children get a grammar place over my child who didn’t get a choice of secondary school. To the op, definitely investigate the situation further with the school.

They will be able to afford it if the mum is charging a lower rent which is possible because she owns the house but obviously wouldn't be possible in a rental property where the landlord is a stranger.

Of course the mum is playing the system but anyone who can buy their way into an expensive catchment area is to a certain extent. Plenty of DC out there who would get into the grammar school if their parents had money to buy their way into the catchment area.

The system is based on unfairness, people just don't like it when it involves THEIR child.

grammarmom · 24/11/2025 19:26

User5306921 · 24/11/2025 19:23

If Auntie X lives in the old house, then of course, the other mum can go around and visit and will have her car parked there.

Blame the system. You would do exactly the same if you had the money.
Morals wouldn't come into the equation and you should admit that to yourself.

No, I wouldn't. I could have easily afforded to do the same, but I didn't.

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FlipzMilk · 24/11/2025 19:26

I am old and thought that there would be loads of school places due to a falling birth rate.

After reading this thread and learning that those pushed out of fee paying education are in competition with so many.

I am wondering why are people who were here because of war staying years after the war ended longer and they are taking up limited school places and housing?

Why are, I presume, retired specialist workers who brought children here, still here, taking up houses and limited schools places and then on top getting annoyed at other migrant families? I fund it quite bewildering.

I thought that this thread was about a cheeky pisstaker playing the school system and it transpired that you have quite another story that has evolved.

To those who struggle for school spaces and are struggling for housing I am so sorry for you, I don't think it should be this unfair.

honeylulu · 24/11/2025 19:25

It's morally a bit rubbish but she's done it just on the right side of the law and but without sacrifice. Her kids have to live for a year in a house they hate and it's costing her 40k plus bills for two homes. It's cheaper than private but still a big dent in finances.

You can report but what's she's done is within the rules so nothing will happen.

User5306921 · 24/11/2025 19:23

grammarmom · 24/11/2025 19:20

No, I didn't make anything up. The child is simply chatty and tends to overshare. They told me their mum was very stressed dealing with the letting agency and was angry with someone on the phone, saying the move had to happen by tomorrow because of the local authority deadline. They also mentioned how she told them it would be great because the school is right next door - it's about a 30-minute trip from here. The whole conversation started because they said they now have to spend nights in this new house, which they described as an absolute dump with terrible internet. And that Auntie X now lives in the old house.

If Auntie X lives in the old house, then of course, the other mum can go around and visit and will have her car parked there.

Blame the system. You would do exactly the same if you had the money.
Morals wouldn't come into the equation and you should admit that to yourself.

Crochetandtea · 24/11/2025 19:20

SouthLondonMum22 · 24/11/2025 19:11

Not if they can't afford it.

If they’re refugees I doubt they can afford the other mum’s house either. Now you’re just clutching at straws. The other mum played the system. I hope the op plays back.

During Covid my youngest didn’t have the opportunity to sit his AQE ( NI 11 plus equivalent) because of some dickhead parent and their crap reasoning about it being unfair due to Covid. You can bet I’m still bitter that I watched less able children get a grammar place over my child who didn’t get a choice of secondary school. To the op, definitely investigate the situation further with the school.

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