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Is this admission fraud? AIBU to report it?

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grammarmom · 24/11/2025 16:21

Here's the situation.

We live in a grammar school catchment area that gets smaller every year. When we bought our house several years ago, it was very comfortably within the catchment for an excellent local grammar (very high in the league tables), and oh boy was it reflected in the price. Now we're right on the boundary. Among the thirty or so houses around us, some children got in last year and some didn't, literally a difference of a few yards.

Another child on our street, who is in the same class as my DC, only just passed the 11+ (a few points above the pass threshold). We live on the same road, but they are about 50 yards further from the school gate. Based on last year's distances, my child would likely get a place while theirs wouldn't.

Over the weekend, during a sleepover, the child mentioned that her mother has now rented a house much closer to the school to secure a higher priority for admission. The tenancy was apparently signed one day before the cut-off date, making it "legal" for admission purposes. She still owns their original home, but the story being presented is that relatives who were previously "homeless" will now live there free of charge, and all bills and utilities have been transferred into those relatives' names (I strongly suspect that the mother will in fact pay these bills as those relatives are penniless).

She's even moved the children's belongings to the rented property and makes them spend nights there (they hate it). There's no doubt that once the school place is obtained, they will move right back.

This effectively pushes my child down the priority list and means they may now miss out.

Would this constitute admissions fraud? It feels incredibly unfair that someone with £40k to spare for rent can effectively buy their way into a top grammar school, especially when their child didn't perform particularly well in the exam (despite being tutored for hours every day).

Should I report this? I have no more detail apart from what this child told me (and they obviously weren't too sure about some aspects of it due to age).

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splendidpickle · 24/11/2025 20:06

This is classed as admissions fraud in most areas.
I don't know why so many people are so confidently telling you it's the same as you buying your house. It's lying to cheat the system and lots of schools and LA's no longer allow it.
Whether you should report it is up to you and your conscience, and it may not be investigated anyway. But it's likely to be against the rules.

Lmnop22 · 24/11/2025 20:05

I would just wait and see what happens. They might both get in and you’d have ruined their friendship over this.

I very much doubt one person moving closer to the catchment area will be the difference between your son being in or out of the final area so it won’t affect your son’s place.

I also wonder whether, if you were the person on the outside of your predicted catchment area, you wouldn’t have been tempted to try whatever you could to get closer to get your child in.

Ultimately, your letting your panic about your own child’s chances make you angry towards this other mum when, realistically, it won’t make any difference to your son‘s chances of getting a place as he will still be within catchment area unless something changes significantly from last year which is unlikely.

CanadianHobbit · 24/11/2025 20:05

grammarmom · 24/11/2025 16:58

They are not on general refugee but on one of special schemes (that is renewed every year).
I know a lot as this is my DC's best friend, and I thought the mum was my friend too.

She still is your friend. She’s looking out for her children. You are doing the same by wanting to report her. Leave it alone - she isn’t doing anything illegal.
You feel it’s morally wrong - if you could afford it would you do the same thing to secure your children’s spot in this school?

countingdowntotheholidays · 24/11/2025 20:04

I know we all want the best for our own children but this is some serious sour grapes and I feel sorry for your DC and their friend as their friendship will suffer due to a PAIR of sharp elbowed mothers.

FlipzMilk · 24/11/2025 20:04

SouthLondonMum22 · 24/11/2025 20:03

and it wasn't sly at all of OP to get this information from a child who trusts her...

If I had a child in my care, I would run a mile with it away from OP and the friend.

SouthLondonMum22 · 24/11/2025 20:03

FlipzMilk · 24/11/2025 20:01

It would be meaner to a child in your care, to have them hang around imoral sly people, as they will be harmed.

and it wasn't sly at all of OP to get this information from a child who trusts her...

Blankscreen · 24/11/2025 20:02

Report and let the powers that be decide.

That said, you were happy to play the game when you thought you were winning but not so happy now you think you might be losing.

I have a friend that lives in Sevenoaks and from what she has said the competition has been v v fierce this year. I wonder if that has anything to do with VAT on the private schools.....

Owl55 · 24/11/2025 20:02

I doubt if councils have the desire or money to investigate if this is fraud so probably the child will get it anyway!

FlipzMilk · 24/11/2025 20:01

niadainud · 24/11/2025 19:55

That's a bit mean to the child who I doubt was the instigator in this scheme.

It would be meaner to a child in your care, to have them hang around imoral sly people, as they will be harmed.

babyproblems · 24/11/2025 20:00

If it’s legal there’s not much you could expect to happen surely. If it’s legal, I’m not sure on paper what the difference is between buying a house in good catchment area or renting one in catchment area. Unless there is some issue with the part where she moves back to their house… of course morally it’s shitty but then I think that’s the basis of the entire education system tbh in the uk! The fact there is 11+ still in some areas is the epitome of it

puppymaddness · 24/11/2025 19:57

justasmallbiz · 24/11/2025 19:53

As backed up by the council admission procedure, owning two homes where one is TEMPORARY is against the rules. The other person has moved on a TEMPORARY basis, not even full time but ad hoc, to bend and manipulate the rules. OP moved PERMANENTLY to a family home which was in the catchment area.

Do you need any more help with comprehension?

Yes but what is the definition of temporary and permanent? Lots of people move homes. You are not required to stay in your same address forever. Different councils have different rules, it may be until the place is offered; it may be until you start school , it may be for 12 months. I don't think any councils ask for longer proof than that.

SouthLondonMum22 · 24/11/2025 19:57

Levie · 24/11/2025 19:54

In many LEAs this would count as fraud. I’m amazed at how many people seem to think it’s absolutely fine. For every place which is obtained through fraud, another child is missing out. Surely that’s not ok?

It's an unfair system. Parents are going to play the game in a number of ways and we don't know for sure if what the other mum has done would be classed as fraud in their area, especially if she's made sure to sign a long term tenancy.

niadainud · 24/11/2025 19:55

FlipzMilk · 24/11/2025 16:34

I would ditch the family, who wants to be around someone with those morals? I would tell my daughter to walk on by if they catch your attention.

That's a bit mean to the child who I doubt was the instigator in this scheme.

FlipzMilk · 24/11/2025 19:55

User5306921 · 24/11/2025 19:47

How would you feel about pushing local people out of the area because you drove the house prices up so much? Do you think they deserve places in the grammar school far more than people who relocated to the area? I do.....

You do displaced people fleeing war a favour and end up a displaced people yourselves along with dealing with them fighting amongst themselves, talk about gratitude.

Levie · 24/11/2025 19:54

In many LEAs this would count as fraud. I’m amazed at how many people seem to think it’s absolutely fine. For every place which is obtained through fraud, another child is missing out. Surely that’s not ok?

TheTwitcher11 · 24/11/2025 19:54

Catpiece · 24/11/2025 16:38

The absolute desperation of some parents. I’ve heard it all now.

So what would you call buying an expensive house just to make sure your child gets into a decent school? Everyone wants the best for their kids, but most wealthy people I know only happen to be in that position because of generational wealth - one could argue that’s unfair.

Purplephase · 24/11/2025 19:54

If the other mother hasn’t broken the actual admission rules then fair play to her. You both (understandably ) played the grammar school catchment game and she might have played it a bit better/ more aggressively. It happens.

justasmallbiz · 24/11/2025 19:53

Megifer · 24/11/2025 16:46

Please tell me what is incorrect about my comment.

I'll wait.

As backed up by the council admission procedure, owning two homes where one is TEMPORARY is against the rules. The other person has moved on a TEMPORARY basis, not even full time but ad hoc, to bend and manipulate the rules. OP moved PERMANENTLY to a family home which was in the catchment area.

Do you need any more help with comprehension?

MissDoubleU · 24/11/2025 19:52

SouthLondonMum22 · 24/11/2025 18:24

Well, exactly.

If you have money, you have an advantage and the system means that those who can afford the expensive catchment areas will buy their way in to the best grammar areas, state school areas etc

In this case, someone else has more money and has used it to their advantage and OP doesn't like it.

Exactly. If the person was outwith the catchment but swooped in and bought a second home closer would the OP still complain? Because minority sure that happens all the time.

puppymaddness · 24/11/2025 19:48

SomersetBrie · 24/11/2025 19:40

Surrey seems to be a council where you can't own and rent.

That's not true- you can own and rent you just have to prove that where you rent is your main residence.

User5306921 · 24/11/2025 19:47

grammarmom · 24/11/2025 19:43

No. I didn't, because that would have been outright dishonesty. I've never cheated in an exam either, even when I easily could have. Stupid me.

How would you feel about pushing local people out of the area because you drove the house prices up so much? Do you think they deserve places in the grammar school far more than people who relocated to the area? I do.....

Emmaheather · 24/11/2025 19:47

Quotes from OPs first post:
"When we bought our house several years ago, it was very comfortably within the catchment for an excellent local grammar (very high in the league tables), and oh boy was it reflected in the price."
" It feels incredibly unfair that someone with £40k to spare for rent can effectively buy their way into a top grammar school."

Ok to buy your way higher up the list by buying a house, but not renting?!

LiteraryBambi · 24/11/2025 19:44

If your kid is bright, they'll be fine in a comprehensive. Don't worry. Grammars barely have any impact once you account for pupil demographic.

SouthLondonMum22 · 24/11/2025 19:44

Crochetandtea · 24/11/2025 19:39

Meh , friends come and go! There’s always a chance she missed something. The op has absolutely nothing to lose by reporting it.

and after all of this, it's very possible that both kids won't get in anyway.

Poppyseeds79 · 24/11/2025 19:44

Crochetandtea · 24/11/2025 19:39

Meh , friends come and go! There’s always a chance she missed something. The op has absolutely nothing to lose by reporting it.

Aside from looking like a pushy parent who might negatively impact on her own childs selection for a school place?