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If a wealth tax brought in zero revenue to the government, would people still support it? If yes, why?

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percypiggy200 · 23/11/2025 07:20

I’m curious and I’d love to know people’s reasoning.

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ProfessorDrPrunesqauler · 23/11/2025 20:08

twistyizzy · 23/11/2025 20:02

Precisely. Champagne socialism at its best if you want to be kind, rank hypocrisy if not.

Entitlement and hypocrisy

GeneralPeter · 23/11/2025 20:07

EasternStandard · 23/11/2025 19:58

If you’re living and working somewhere else you don’t pay tax here. Unless you have other stuff going on which most won’t.

You are very annoyed the op left but also annoyed others can’t. It doesn’t stack up.

Presumably they are less flexible thinkers than PP and decided that, having been given a chance to curb disgusting behaviour, it was their duty to do so. The fact they would never commit such disgusting acts themselves is surely to their favour.

Legolava · 23/11/2025 20:06

ProfessorDrPrunesqauler · 23/11/2025 20:04

This doesn’t make you any better as you are perpetuating the very wealth inequality you don’t like

Stay if you want
Your kids can stay if they want

No one else has to in a country that hates those who are high earners, hates those in big houses, hates anyone and everyone that has more than them

Life is too short to put up with this pathetic, envious and quite frankly really scary U.K. rhetoric.
If this Government doesn't see sense, there will be nothing left to run this country and pay for the welfare state

I do hope they don’t listen to the envy politics on SM and by the likes of Raynor

The wealth inequality which is driving young talent away from the country. Being a high earner isn’t enough nowadays to keep your head above water with no family support.

ProfessorDrPrunesqauler · 23/11/2025 20:04

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/11/2025 19:46

Because we stayed in the UK and paid higher rate tax, when we had many options. We chose to.

This doesn’t make you any better as you are perpetuating the very wealth inequality you don’t like

Stay if you want
Your kids can stay if they want

No one else has to in a country that hates those who are high earners, hates those in big houses, hates anyone and everyone that has more than them

Life is too short to put up with this pathetic, envious and quite frankly really scary U.K. rhetoric.
If this Government doesn't see sense, there will be nothing left to run this country and pay for the welfare state

I do hope they don’t listen to the envy politics on SM and by the likes of Raynor

twistyizzy · 23/11/2025 20:02

ProfessorDrPrunesqauler · 23/11/2025 19:57

and here in lies the problem

People don’t want others to have more than them but are happy to make hand outs to family members. Those that receive it are in effect in possession of unearned wealth.

They are perpetuating wealth inequality
but it’s OK if they do it because it doesn’t count

Precisely. Champagne socialism at its best if you want to be kind, rank hypocrisy if not.

Legolava · 23/11/2025 20:02

Goldenbear · 23/11/2025 19:55

Why don't you take your own advice then and not accuse me of troll hunting. And don't accuse people of 'abuse' just because they don't agree with you.

Read your posts tomorrow and maybe reflect. You are accusing not only the op of posting to wind up you’re accusing other posters of it too.

JHound · 23/11/2025 19:58

How would it be zero? Where would the money go?

EasternStandard · 23/11/2025 19:58

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/11/2025 19:55

Because the choice was taken away from them by ignorant people who would never have travelled anywhere.
Not conflicted at all. Freedom of movement is excellent. So is paying tax in your home nation.
Both are possible.

If you’re living and working somewhere else you don’t pay tax here. Unless you have other stuff going on which most won’t.

You are very annoyed the op left but also annoyed others can’t. It doesn’t stack up.

ProfessorDrPrunesqauler · 23/11/2025 19:57

twistyizzy · 23/11/2025 19:23

But that's selfish and greedy surely? I mean it's what I would do but then people like you would shout "but what about starving children" at me and make me out to be a twat.
You want to reduce wealth inequality yet are happy to perpetuate it as long as it benefits your family.

and here in lies the problem

People don’t want others to have more than them but are happy to make hand outs to family members. Those that receive it are in effect in possession of unearned wealth.

They are perpetuating wealth inequality
but it’s OK if they do it because it doesn’t count

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/11/2025 19:55

EasternStandard · 23/11/2025 19:51

So why lament they can’t go now, you seem to be conflicted.

Because the choice was taken away from them by ignorant people who would never have travelled anywhere.
Not conflicted at all. Freedom of movement is excellent. So is paying tax in your home nation.
Both are possible.

Goldenbear · 23/11/2025 19:55

Legolava · 23/11/2025 19:50

Have you read your posts? Try reading them back again. Maybe tomorrow. If you think op is a troll report it. Try and refrain from mixing posters up, abusing them and accusing them of stuff from other threads they’ve not done or even authored or been on. People can have a different opinion to you and that’s valid. It does not make them a troll.

You have backtracked. You accused me and I quote stating you are going to do something to put the cat amongst the pigeons is not that bright if you then go on to claim you're insulted and hurt by your fabricated cat amongst the pigeons shitty wind up threads!

Then said oh maybe that wasn’t you when I asked for proof.

Why don't you take your own advice then and not accuse me of troll hunting. And don't accuse people of 'abuse' just because they don't agree with you.

GeneralPeter · 23/11/2025 19:54

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/11/2025 19:50

Good for them. We should all support our countries.

Should the immigrants go home? Most of them have moved here to improve their lives, after all. Disloyal, or perhaps even disgusting?

Goldenbear · 23/11/2025 19:53

EasternStandard · 23/11/2025 19:52

Can you clarify. What’s fiction now?

I wouldn't want to comment, people can judge for themselves.

EasternStandard · 23/11/2025 19:52

Goldenbear · 23/11/2025 19:51

I feel there is a moral obligation to highlight such toxicity as people reading these pure works of fiction may believe it's the truth.

Can you clarify. What’s fiction now?

EasternStandard · 23/11/2025 19:51

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/11/2025 19:50

Good for them. We should all support our countries.

So why lament they can’t go now, you seem to be conflicted.

Goldenbear · 23/11/2025 19:51

EasternStandard · 23/11/2025 19:48

So hide it instead

I feel there is a moral obligation to highlight such toxicity as people reading these pure works of fiction may believe it's the truth.

Legolava · 23/11/2025 19:50

Goldenbear · 23/11/2025 19:46

How am I personally attacking you? I'm definitely not backtracking, I don't backtrack. It is just tedious reading these toxic and pathetic wind up threads.

Have you read your posts? Try reading them back again. Maybe tomorrow. If you think op is a troll report it. Try and refrain from mixing posters up, abusing them and accusing them of stuff from other threads they’ve not done or even authored or been on. People can have a different opinion to you and that’s valid. It does not make them a troll.

You have backtracked. You accused me and I quote stating you are going to do something to put the cat amongst the pigeons is not that bright if you then go on to claim you're insulted and hurt by your fabricated cat amongst the pigeons shitty wind up threads!

Then said oh maybe that wasn’t you when I asked for proof.

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/11/2025 19:50

poetryandwine · 23/11/2025 19:47

Many YP the world over travel for a few years before returning to their home countries to settle. DH is British and the majority of YP on his side have done this. All are back in the UK and all but one were net contributors by age 30.

Good for them. We should all support our countries.

EasternStandard · 23/11/2025 19:48

Goldenbear · 23/11/2025 19:46

How am I personally attacking you? I'm definitely not backtracking, I don't backtrack. It is just tedious reading these toxic and pathetic wind up threads.

So hide it instead

poetryandwine · 23/11/2025 19:47

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/11/2025 18:56

Sadly not because Brexit has made that option far more difficult.

Most young people who are able to leave are not deliberate tax dodgers.

Many YP the world over travel for a few years before returning to their home countries to settle. DH is British and the majority of YP on his side have done this. All are back in the UK and all but one were net contributors by age 30.

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/11/2025 19:46

EasternStandard · 23/11/2025 19:13

So why do you think you’re in any position to judge the op?

Because we stayed in the UK and paid higher rate tax, when we had many options. We chose to.

Goldenbear · 23/11/2025 19:46

Legolava · 23/11/2025 19:39

So wait. Not only are you personally attacking me you are making false accusations by quoting me and now you’re backtracking because it’s not true. Now I wasn’t even on whatever thread you’re talking about.

Wow.

How am I personally attacking you? I'm definitely not backtracking, I don't backtrack. It is just tedious reading these toxic and pathetic wind up threads.

Legolava · 23/11/2025 19:39

Goldenbear · 23/11/2025 19:36

Are you honestly claiming it not to be true, maybe you weren't on the thread but it is true of the OP.

So wait. Not only are you personally attacking me you are making false accusations by quoting me and now you’re backtracking because it’s not true. Now I wasn’t even on whatever thread you’re talking about.

Wow.

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/11/2025 19:38

EasternStandard · 23/11/2025 19:34

And? It’s not some moral hurdle to stay in one country. You’ve just lamented that they can’t leave anyway.

You’ve benefited from rising house prices and passed that on. There’s no moral high ground here.

FWIW, we bought our house in Lytham in 2010 for £525. we we sold it 3
months ago for the same price, having sent £100k extending and upgrading. It was marketed at 695 “for a quick sale”.

ProfessorDrPrunesqauler · 23/11/2025 19:38

saffglass · 23/11/2025 18:26

Ideally to raise money, perhaps other policy would help to redistribute more of the wealth to more people. I'm not an economist myself. I've seen mentioned that assets could be taxed given that the very rich often hoard their money overseas but they can't do it was UK assets.

There has to be something we can do to redistribute the wealth in the country a bit more fairly. The leader of the greens for example said recently that more than 50% of the wealth in the UK is held by only 50 families, so 50 families have more wealth than everyone else in the UK put together if he is right. Something should be done about that when people can't afford to heat their homes or eat properly or even afford a roof over their heads.

We keep squeezing ordinary working people because they are the sitting ducks who have no choice but to pay even if they can't make ends meet otherwise. While very wealthy people multi millionaires and billionaires not to mention many large corporations just pick and choose how much tax they want to pay while benefiting from the the UK state that. you and me pay for, NHS treatment for their staff, Infrastructure, Education etc. They are also quite happy to take bail outs and corporate welfare when it suits them but get all sniffy about a disabled person needing financial support.

Private companies who own and operate essential services like Thames water prioritise dividends for their shareholders (its literally a legal requirement) don't use that money to reinvest in their infrastructure and when it fails they want government bailouts or their customers to pay even more to cover the costs of upgrading the system when they should have been doing that all along. Its criminal and I'm fed up listening to people who say nothing can be done to stop these people. I'm fine with them being rich but I'm not fine with them hoarding all the wealth and leaving ordinary people living hand to mouth, I've no desire to go back to the Victorian Era.

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Wealth could be equalised by more people working full time and everyone paying their taxes

Everyone then earns more= pays more in taxes ,
invests more = more taxes and personal pension uplift

Everyone then ensures they plan for their own future and their own current living requirements

Not sure why randoms think they have a right to even more of other people’s income, savings, investments and assets. If more people were saving and working towards their own lives and their own futures we’d have less interest in grabbing other people’s assets

We are a capitalist country
Everyone needs to contribute and earn it for themselves.

‘There has to be something we can do to redistribute wealth in this country’. This isn’t about redistributing other people’s wealth. People need to make their way in the world and there is a welfare state for those who can’t.

Your idea of spreading other peoples money around simply means those other people will leave. Then who pays for the welfare state, who pays for the crippling council tax costs.

No one

This attitude of taxing net contributors more and more is and will continue to ruin this country