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That DSS’s mum losing her house isn’t our problem.

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heavenknow · 22/11/2025 12:42

DSS is 20, graduating uni in 6 months. DH has paid a generous maintenance throughout. The agreement they had in place was financial support ended in Dec 25. (Due to lump sum payments requested by ex)
She has now said if we can’t continue the payments for a minimum of 6-12 months then she will lose her house. She currently works for herself. AIBU to think this isn’t our problem?

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MellowPinkDeer · 24/11/2025 10:51

Gingernessy · 24/11/2025 10:36

You're free to set a go fund me account for DSS's mum's rent if you feel so strongly about it.

She’s probably the mum , surely there are not multiple scrounging women like this?!?

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You're free to set a go fund me account for DSS's mum's rent if you feel so strongly about it.

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Are you absolutely batshit crazy??? The kid is 20, she’s had YEARS AND YEARS and multiple bail outs. She’s a fully grown adult. You cannot seriously be trying to make the OP the bad guy here? Give your head a wobble!

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GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 24/11/2025 09:11

YANBU but I would carry on supporting your DSS until he leaves uni.

Hopingtobeaparent · 24/11/2025 08:34

heavenknow · 24/11/2025 08:18

Thanks everyone. We are going to stand firm and not give her anything else.
She had every opportunity to further her career, we’ve always been flexible with arrangements to accommodate her working.
There wasn’t a marital asset to sell as they rented when they were together and were never married. DH has always been generous with financial support, because we’ve been in the fortunate position to and because he didn’t want his child to have the growing up he had. But time has come now for us to benefit and to focus on supporting DSS towards his future, money for a house deposit etc

Spot on!

You paid a lump so she could pay off a business debt?!

DSS has a plan, you can support him getting set up.

He needs to see how his mum is. She may be doing her best, but it’s not for your DH to further enable her life.

Well done for the extra support you have done for DSS’s wellbeing.

Thatsalineallright · 24/11/2025 08:33

heavenknow · 24/11/2025 08:18

Thanks everyone. We are going to stand firm and not give her anything else.
She had every opportunity to further her career, we’ve always been flexible with arrangements to accommodate her working.
There wasn’t a marital asset to sell as they rented when they were together and were never married. DH has always been generous with financial support, because we’ve been in the fortunate position to and because he didn’t want his child to have the growing up he had. But time has come now for us to benefit and to focus on supporting DSS towards his future, money for a house deposit etc

Good decision, OP. Any financial support you choose to give should be going directly to you DSS now that he's an adult.

heavenknow · 24/11/2025 08:18

Thanks everyone. We are going to stand firm and not give her anything else.
She had every opportunity to further her career, we’ve always been flexible with arrangements to accommodate her working.
There wasn’t a marital asset to sell as they rented when they were together and were never married. DH has always been generous with financial support, because we’ve been in the fortunate position to and because he didn’t want his child to have the growing up he had. But time has come now for us to benefit and to focus on supporting DSS towards his future, money for a house deposit etc

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theressomanytinafeysicouldbe · 24/11/2025 08:03

He is a tad old to still be paying child maintenance to be fair.

Lurker85 · 24/11/2025 08:02

Thatsalineallright · 24/11/2025 07:51

All of that is besides the point. The dad owes the mum generous maintenance to help support his son. That's it. He doesn't owe her more money because she's single or because her boiler breaks down. The mum is presumably a fully-functioning adult and can figure out how to pay her own expenses the way the rest of us do.

Exactly! Well said. Plus why are they mentioning the Dads joint income, that income isn’t shared with another parent of the child. Plus the mom has had equal time and opportunity to find herself a new bankroller partner

Thatsalineallright · 24/11/2025 07:51

SoftBalletShoes · 24/11/2025 00:36

Yes, but the mum has had to put a roof over their heads herself, since I doubt the maintenance was enough for the son and for housing, whereas the OP and her husband have had a joint income. Plus, the mum might have sacrificed earnings when having the DS, if she took time off work and was then a SAHM until her marriage ended.

ETA: Then there's the fact that the cost of living is horrendous these days and has been rising fast for quite a few years now. Did the husband increase his maintenance in line with inflation? It's hard to afford heating, lighting, housing, food, and other necessities these days for single people.

Then there's the fact that maintenance is to maintain the child, so it's an amount which covers things like food, clothes, activities. It's not an amount which covers the parent's expenses, and not things like the boiler breaking down, fixes for things that go wrong in the house, and all the other expenses of life.

She has been managing all this for a long time on one income, unlike the OP who is much luckier.

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All of that is besides the point. The dad owes the mum generous maintenance to help support his son. That's it. He doesn't owe her more money because she's single or because her boiler breaks down. The mum is presumably a fully-functioning adult and can figure out how to pay her own expenses the way the rest of us do.

CheeseIsMyIdol · 24/11/2025 07:40

Gettingbysomehow · 24/11/2025 07:36

If you have any dignity as a woman and mother at all you don't sit there waiting for handouts from your long ex husband!!! Especially when your child is this age.
There comes a time when you are expected to be independent. If women want equality why are they still behaving in this helpless way.

Well said!

Gettingbysomehow · 24/11/2025 07:36

kittywittyandpretty · 23/11/2025 21:25

So because you were dealt a shit hand she has to have one, is that what you’re saying?

If you have any dignity as a woman and mother at all you don't sit there waiting for handouts from your long ex husband!!! Especially when your child is this age.
There comes a time when you are expected to be independent. If women want equality why are they still behaving in this helpless way.

celticprincess · 24/11/2025 07:30

Middlechild3 · 22/11/2025 13:10

She can downsize to a flat maybe?

Depending where you live a flat might cost more than a house. I live in an old 1900s 3 bed terrace because it was the cheapest property to buy in the area. A 2 bed flat is actually more as they are newer in our area. One neighbour decided to sell up and rent when they couldn’t afford mortgage payments as they get UC towards rent unlike mortgage.

BadLad · 24/11/2025 06:19

juldan · 24/11/2025 05:27

@SoftBalletShoes
They had 50:50 split of care so any maintenance was generous.If parents equally share care and cost of looking after the children, neither is liable to pay maintenance. He is not responsible for the choices she has made. To clarify I am in a similar position to her. My ex earns well himself and is coupled up with another good earner. I am single and on low income. The only time I got maintenance was a few months when he stopped doing 50:50 and I went through CMS as I had one child who was still in secondary school. I did not get anything for my student son as maintenance does not extend to university years. I think he would die laughing if I expected him to contribute to my cost of accommodation if I only had university aged children.

I think he would die laughing if I expected him to contribute to my cost of accommodation if I only had university aged children.

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juldan · 24/11/2025 05:27

SoftBalletShoes · 24/11/2025 02:55

You don't know she isn't morally entitled to it. Maybe he encouraged her to follow her dreams and give up work to have their child while she tried to get her business off the ground same time, and maybe he shagged around and/or abused her in other ways until she couldn't stand it anymore, or maybe he left her for another woman. And maybe his maintenance wasn't generous at all. You really don't know. I would like to hear her side of the story. For all we know, the business debt was part his, if the business was something they used to run together. And I would be really interested to know if the maintenance rose in line with the horrendous cost of living rises in the last few years. I bet it didn't. It's probably worth two-thirds of what it was pre-Covid and Ukraine.

@SoftBalletShoes
They had 50:50 split of care so any maintenance was generous.If parents equally share care and cost of looking after the children, neither is liable to pay maintenance. He is not responsible for the choices she has made. To clarify I am in a similar position to her. My ex earns well himself and is coupled up with another good earner. I am single and on low income. The only time I got maintenance was a few months when he stopped doing 50:50 and I went through CMS as I had one child who was still in secondary school. I did not get anything for my student son as maintenance does not extend to university years. I think he would die laughing if I expected him to contribute to my cost of accommodation if I only had university aged children.

PermanentTemporary · 24/11/2025 05:05

Overall I think you should stick to the agreed date. What conversations have you had with DSS about the fallout from this? He needs to understand that he has a home with you (I’m sure he does) and that his Mum does have options such as moving to a cheaper place - and that neither of you would expect him to support her. Making all that as explicit as possible would be good. I hope you don’t find that he’s already channelling money to her - you might do.

user1492757084 · 24/11/2025 04:21

I would pay maintenance until your DSS has finished his uni.
Does he live with his mother while at uni?
It's not DSS's fault that his father gave a lump sum to his mother that was a payment NOT for DSS's maintenance.

Once DSS has finished uni, draw up a proper legal loan document and consult your accountant for any money your husband wants to loan to his ex. He has no legal reason to help her financially. Your husband could be well advised to give any money or loans directly to his son.

BruFord · 24/11/2025 03:41

@SoftBalletShoes You have some valid points about SAHM’s and putting careers on the back burner to bring up children. The Mum in this instance only had one child with her ex though so unless their son had health problems that required extra care, she wasn’t at home taking care of young children over several years.

Tbh, it sounds as if running her own business isn’t generating enough income and she probably needs another job.

SoftBalletShoes · 24/11/2025 02:55

Doubledenim305 · 24/11/2025 01:43

"luckier"? Maybe he has made better decisions/ worked harder etc?The woman siunds like she is trying to run an unprofitable business and should either get a different job or a second job rather asking for money she isn't legally or morally entitled to.

You don't know she isn't morally entitled to it. Maybe he encouraged her to follow her dreams and give up work to have their child while she tried to get her business off the ground same time, and maybe he shagged around and/or abused her in other ways until she couldn't stand it anymore, or maybe he left her for another woman. And maybe his maintenance wasn't generous at all. You really don't know. I would like to hear her side of the story. For all we know, the business debt was part his, if the business was something they used to run together. And I would be really interested to know if the maintenance rose in line with the horrendous cost of living rises in the last few years. I bet it didn't. It's probably worth two-thirds of what it was pre-Covid and Ukraine.

SoftBalletShoes · 24/11/2025 02:50

putini · 24/11/2025 01:24

I'm in a similar situation. My ds17 and dd20 at uni for another 2 year, da going next year. I've just been made redundant. Looking for a job - it's really hard. I have/had them 50/50 no maintenance, spousal for 5 years that's all which finished 4 years ago. He lives in a mansion drives a porche I live in a small terrace, drive and old banger... he wasn't honest. I'd already rationalised if I lose the house at least the children have him and a roof over their heads. I'd never ask / or expect anything from him. Certainly would not expect my children to support me. Hopefully it won't come to this 🙏

It always makes me laugh when you hear male chauvinists whining about how their ex-wives took them to the cleaners and all that crap. Every single study and statistic on the subject shows that women's lifestyles take a serious nose-dive after divorce whereas men's stays the same or improves.

Sorry your ex lives such a vastly different lifestyle from you, the mother of his children. If I was a wealthy man, I couldn't do that. I would share a lot more, maybe not 50-50, but I wouldn't have her living in a small terrace and driving an old banger while I lived in a mansion and drove a Porsche. Why are people so mean to someone they once loved enough to pledge a lifetime with and made children with.

SoftBalletShoes · 24/11/2025 02:44

Kirstk · 24/11/2025 02:10

Sorry what is DSS?

Dear Stepson.

SoftBalletShoes · 24/11/2025 02:44

CheeseIsMyIdol · 24/11/2025 01:04

Why on earth should he address it with her? She’s presumably a sentient adult who knows that she, like all of us, is responsible for her own housing and livelihood.

Sure, but you're talking in ideals. Real life rarely serves up ideal situations, so you're best off dealing with what is, rather than what should be. And the purpose would be to avoid the OP's current situation.

Kirstk · 24/11/2025 02:10

heavenknow · 22/11/2025 12:42

DSS is 20, graduating uni in 6 months. DH has paid a generous maintenance throughout. The agreement they had in place was financial support ended in Dec 25. (Due to lump sum payments requested by ex)
She has now said if we can’t continue the payments for a minimum of 6-12 months then she will lose her house. She currently works for herself. AIBU to think this isn’t our problem?

Sorry what is DSS?

Doubledenim305 · 24/11/2025 01:43

SoftBalletShoes · 24/11/2025 00:36

Yes, but the mum has had to put a roof over their heads herself, since I doubt the maintenance was enough for the son and for housing, whereas the OP and her husband have had a joint income. Plus, the mum might have sacrificed earnings when having the DS, if she took time off work and was then a SAHM until her marriage ended.

ETA: Then there's the fact that the cost of living is horrendous these days and has been rising fast for quite a few years now. Did the husband increase his maintenance in line with inflation? It's hard to afford heating, lighting, housing, food, and other necessities these days for single people.

Then there's the fact that maintenance is to maintain the child, so it's an amount which covers things like food, clothes, activities. It's not an amount which covers the parent's expenses, and not things like the boiler breaking down, fixes for things that go wrong in the house, and all the other expenses of life.

She has been managing all this for a long time on one income, unlike the OP who is much luckier.

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"luckier"? Maybe he has made better decisions/ worked harder etc?The woman siunds like she is trying to run an unprofitable business and should either get a different job or a second job rather asking for money she isn't legally or morally entitled to.

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