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Blopi · 2025-11-22T06:43:24+00:00

It really boils my piss when organisations curtail Christmas stuff as it may offend people. Who are these people who find Christmas offensive? In my life I have worked and met people from various religions, cultures and countries. NOT one found Christmas and things that go with it. I didn’t work with Jehovah Witnesses but they don’t get offended. Most said they decorated their homes, wore Xmas jumpers and ate food which was suitable or tailored to their religion. Those who didn’t decorate their homes love seeing trees lit up.

cardibach · 22/11/2025 21:30

Livelovebehappy · 22/11/2025 21:28

Maybe it depends in which part of the country you went to school, and the diverse make up of that area? Definitely in my area it was all Nativity lead at Christmas when I was primary school age 40 plus years ago, and similar at my DCs school. The first time I heard of just festive/other plays was about 10 years ago at my previous house where a neighbour went to a none a nativity play where the children all played woodland animals.

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There was precisely one not white family in my primary school. They were Christians. It was a church school. We still didn’t always do a nativity - sometimes it was another play showing Christian values.

GaIadriel · 22/11/2025 21:29

IME it's usually white middle class lefties being offended on behalf of people that don't actually give a shit.

Livelovebehappy · 22/11/2025 21:28

mollypuss1 · 22/11/2025 21:18

My DH was ‘the river’ in his school Christmas play. This was over 50 years ago. Lots of schools do Christmas plays and have done for donkeys years, nothing to do with lefty liberals. My DD was in a nativity a couple of years ago, it had one girl dressed as a parrot. Not sure what that’s got to do with Christmas.

Maybe it depends in which part of the country you went to school, and the diverse make up of that area? Definitely in my area it was all Nativity lead at Christmas when I was primary school age 40 plus years ago, and similar at my DCs school. The first time I heard of just festive/other plays was about 10 years ago at my previous house where a neighbour went to a none a nativity play where the children all played woodland animals.

cardibach · 22/11/2025 21:26

Livelovebehappy · 22/11/2025 21:22

Well it’s Christmas, which is a celebration of the birth of Jesus, so teaches children the real meaning behind Xmas, which is easily lost in the commercial side. It’s a tradition that still means a lot to many people. As said earlier, the tradition of the Nativity could be kept in schools, alongside a festive play, which keeps both camps happy. Most religious celebrations have traditions attached to them.

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You can have a play which is about Christianity/christian values wothout it being the actual nativity. And schools have been doing these for at least half a decade based on my experience.

Livelovebehappy · 22/11/2025 21:22

cardibach · 22/11/2025 21:07

Why does it have to be a nativity? I did Christmas plays that weren’t nativities back in the 70s.

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Well it’s Christmas, which is a celebration of the birth of Jesus, so teaches children the real meaning behind Xmas, which is easily lost in the commercial side. It’s a tradition that still means a lot to many people. As said earlier, the tradition of the Nativity could be kept in schools, alongside a festive play, which keeps both camps happy. Most religious celebrations have traditions attached to them.

mollypuss1 · 22/11/2025 21:18

My DH was ‘the river’ in his school Christmas play. This was over 50 years ago. Lots of schools do Christmas plays and have done for donkeys years, nothing to do with lefty liberals. My DD was in a nativity a couple of years ago, it had one girl dressed as a parrot. Not sure what that’s got to do with Christmas.

cardibach · 22/11/2025 21:07

Livelovebehappy · 22/11/2025 20:52

I think some do both, some don’t. There was recently a Xmas thread on here where the school was just doing a winter themed play, incorporating choir singing carols, rather than a Nativity. Assume it varies from school to school.

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Why does it have to be a nativity? I did Christmas plays that weren’t nativities back in the 70s.

Livelovebehappy · 22/11/2025 20:52

cardibach · 22/11/2025 20:46

Most schools do an infant nativity and a junior play, don’t they? Not random. Christmas themed but not a nativity?

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I think some do both, some don’t. There was recently a Xmas thread on here where the school was just doing a winter themed play, incorporating choir singing carols, rather than a Nativity. Assume it varies from school to school.

Livelovebehappy · 22/11/2025 20:48

GagMeWithASpoon · 22/11/2025 20:40

Have you ever directed a nativity? To get 60 kids in ks1/EYFS or possibly 120 in ks2 to learn their lines , actions and cues? Assign roles and then deal with the parents moaning Suzie only has one line, John is a star yet again and why does Melanie always get to be Mary? Make the props and costumes? Lose hours and hours of learning time for rehearsals? And then do it TWICE? And why? Because some unimaginative dumbass that hasn’t been in a church since their baptism doesn’t feel it’s “Christian “ enough?

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Seems may have got more complex then over the years. Mine are young adults now, and tbh the only drama used to be the time consuming task of making the costumes. You can buy them off the shelves at B&M and online now, but when mine were Nativity age we used to have to throw something together using old sheets and tea towels! I think expectations were not as high back then, and added to the sweetness of it all when some forgot their lines or spoke at the wrong time. Now I guess it has to be put together like a West End performance.

cardibach · 22/11/2025 20:46

Livelovebehappy · 22/11/2025 20:26

Sometimes the same, sometimes not. Eg, school changing Nativity to a random play, not associated with Nativity. I can see why some parents might not want their child to take part in a Nativity, due to religious connection. But the school could maybe do both - one Nativity, and one not religious, which would then keep everyone happy.

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Most schools do an infant nativity and a junior play, don’t they? Not random. Christmas themed but not a nativity?

GagMeWithASpoon · 22/11/2025 20:40

Livelovebehappy · 22/11/2025 20:26

Sometimes the same, sometimes not. Eg, school changing Nativity to a random play, not associated with Nativity. I can see why some parents might not want their child to take part in a Nativity, due to religious connection. But the school could maybe do both - one Nativity, and one not religious, which would then keep everyone happy.

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Have you ever directed a nativity? To get 60 kids in ks1/EYFS or possibly 120 in ks2 to learn their lines , actions and cues? Assign roles and then deal with the parents moaning Suzie only has one line, John is a star yet again and why does Melanie always get to be Mary? Make the props and costumes? Lose hours and hours of learning time for rehearsals? And then do it TWICE? And why? Because some unimaginative dumbass that hasn’t been in a church since their baptism doesn’t feel it’s “Christian “ enough?

Livelovebehappy · 22/11/2025 20:39

GuyForksAndKnives · 22/11/2025 20:28

My 5 year old nephew played a chocolate Santa in his nativity.

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There you go. Maybe a Nativity with other things happening on the fringes. I love a good Nativity play, and i’ve been to many over the years.

phantomofthepopera · 22/11/2025 20:34

Livelovebehappy · 22/11/2025 20:26

Sometimes the same, sometimes not. Eg, school changing Nativity to a random play, not associated with Nativity. I can see why some parents might not want their child to take part in a Nativity, due to religious connection. But the school could maybe do both - one Nativity, and one not religious, which would then keep everyone happy.

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We had years where we used to do a Panto instead of a nativity. My primary school was 100% white British Christian. This was 40 years ago. It was nothing to do with religion. I think they just felt it was a bit boring and it was more fun to do something that everyone could have a decent role in rather than a nativity with only about 10 roles and 40 angels/animals.

GuyForksAndKnives · 22/11/2025 20:28

Livelovebehappy · 22/11/2025 20:26

Sometimes the same, sometimes not. Eg, school changing Nativity to a random play, not associated with Nativity. I can see why some parents might not want their child to take part in a Nativity, due to religious connection. But the school could maybe do both - one Nativity, and one not religious, which would then keep everyone happy.

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My 5 year old nephew played a chocolate Santa in his nativity.

Livelovebehappy · 22/11/2025 20:26

cardibach · 22/11/2025 13:03

But do they change the events? Rather than having a winter/holiday element to the naming?
Because just changing the name doesn’t stop anyone enjoying the celebrations.

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Sometimes the same, sometimes not. Eg, school changing Nativity to a random play, not associated with Nativity. I can see why some parents might not want their child to take part in a Nativity, due to religious connection. But the school could maybe do both - one Nativity, and one not religious, which would then keep everyone happy.

PinkyFlamingo · 22/11/2025 19:47

Blopi · 22/11/2025 07:00

If you read my op there are organisations that don’t do Christmas as they think they are offending others.

My friend’s late husband was Muslim and they do pigs in blankets - they call them chicks in blankets. Chicken sausages with turkey rashers.

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What organisations?

cardibach · 22/11/2025 19:42

Boomer55 · 22/11/2025 16:00

My neighbouring council (Labour, left wing) have been terrified of the word Xmas for years, in case someone is offended. Any hint of Xmas decor or celebration sends them into a tizzy.

No one has ever found the offended people, but they still carry on. 🙄

Residents just generally ignore them.

Which council is this? It’s not outing to tell us. Unless you’ve made it up, which will out you in a different way.

Purplebunnie · 22/11/2025 19:33

Mothership4two · 22/11/2025 11:11

On first page:

The Winter Fair really is the perfect way to get into the festive spirit and kick off your Christmas preparations.

And it starts in November

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One could argue that it should be called a Christmas Fair: to buy presents for Christmas as that is what it is.

It was very good whatever you want to call it

Anyone else going, wrap up, warm the wind was howling across the open space

MurdoMunro · 22/11/2025 19:06

I was walking past the council house when I said ‘Christmas’ out loud (rookie mistake) and now I”VE been banned. I have to sign a form promising to eat hummus every day until February and if they catch me with a cracker I’m to be sent to a reception centre over by Inverkip.

5128gap · 22/11/2025 18:57

soddingspiderseason · 22/11/2025 18:45

I’ve heard that THAT LEFT WING COUNCIL are re-recording Wham’s (obviously) now banned ‘Festive’ song in case anyone spontaneously combusts in B&M Bargains from the shock and offence.

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Yes, they were going to go with "Last Winterval I gave you my heart...." Until the lefties said thats not very inclusive of Australians.
Worlds gone mad.

Shakeoffyourchains · 22/11/2025 18:50

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 22/11/2025 14:41

I'm actually rolling my eyes to the back of my head, at the pure denial of councils and the like, stopping people using the word Christmas, and schools not allowing nativity plays. Why are some posters trying to gaslight people into believing it has never happened?

Calling people racist for spreading this 'MYTH.' It's not a myth actually, as it does happen/has happened, plenty of times, especially over the past 2 decades... How the fuck is anyone racist for saying they don't want Christmas diminished, and the word replaced by something else? The people saying this must have needed a 700 foot high stepladder to reach that far!

I've got better things to do than search through Google to PROVE what is clearly bloody true, but seeing as the people denying what the OP says sometimes happens is a lie.... Well, I'm not prepared to let that go without a fight.

Some stories are older, some are newer. but it has absolutely happened in previous years, and still happens now. People/organisations/councils/Universities and so on trying to change Christmas to ... well any fucking thing except CHRISTMAS! And Nativity plays to anything but Nativity plays!

Stop trying to deny it happens. (And has been happening on and off for a couple of decades!) I'm cringing at the denial, from some posters! I wouldn't normally waste my time looking for 'proof' but I'm not having people trying to con me, and the OP, and many others on here into believing what the OP is talking about is a lie, and it has NEVER happened.

The Nativity play being cancelled (and something random being put in its place) happened 20-25 years ago when my kids and nieces and nephews were at school, and it's happened at a number at schools over the past 20 years too. I have heard other people with children younger than mine talking about it!

CBA to post on this thread anymore, as the denial on here (of something that has happened for years!) is utterly batshit. Mumsnet is a parallel universe sometimes. 🙄

So here's a few links, seeing as you CBA to look yourselves... Enjoy. 😎 There are many more articles like this, but I know some of you won't want to look. Probably won't even look at these links actually, as it may prove you are GASP! WRONG!

MERRY CHRISTMAS! 🎄

https://www.premierchristianity.com/opinion/in-an-absurd-move-brighton-uni-is-banning-the-word-christmas-it-wont-stop-me-talking-about-jesus/14550.article

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/opinion/leader/1902261.hands-off-nativity-play/

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/nov/02/christmas-political-correctness-oxford-christian

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12823071/Christmas-spirit-cancelled-renamed-markets-council-light-scrapped-woke-offence-pigs-blanket-cards.html

https://www.christian.org.uk/news/no-room-for-christmas-in-council-cards/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4102277.stm

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/14111940.mum-slams-schools-plan-for-nativity-play/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/rebranding-christmas-more-public-bodies-are-refusing-to-give-the-festival-its-name-for-fear-of-causing-offence-9923365.html

A late nomination for unhinged meltdown of the year, but I like your odds.

soddingspiderseason · 22/11/2025 18:45

5128gap · 22/11/2025 18:37

Let's hope there were no leftie wokey snowflake leftsters in the vicinity taking a break from pandering. I've heard they report you for that to The Left Wing Council and they make you give up your house to migrants. This actually happened to my cousins neighbours hairdressers nephew and they actually banned him from being white. THIS IS TRUE.

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I’ve heard that THAT LEFT WING COUNCIL are re-recording Wham’s (obviously) now banned ‘Festive’ song in case anyone spontaneously combusts in B&M Bargains from the shock and offence.

WombatChocolate · 22/11/2025 18:42

I volunteer with a charity. They were making a poster about Christmas opening times and discussed using the word festive instead of Christmas, to avoid offending people. And then there was a short discussion about if it was offensive.
I think people fear causing offence, but actually very few are offended by the word ‘Christmas’ or Christmas activities. Christmas is cultural not religious for most people.

And actually people of other religions are least likely to be offended…..religious people understand that people of other religions carry out religious activities. They might not be the same activities as them, but they u derstand religious people do religious activities.

Often the people who worry about causing offence are not religious people and do t realise that peooke of other religions are unlikely to be offended. Perhaps people of no religion might be offended…but most won’t be.

And people are very keen to be inclusive and celebrate or acknowledge other festivals connected to other religions…but possibly fear Christmas and Easter are less acceptable. It’s quite muddled thinking and probably something most people haven’t fully thought through but know they want to avoid offence….to people who aren’t Christian.

5128gap · 22/11/2025 18:37

soddingspiderseason · 22/11/2025 18:12

I was in Tesco today and inadvertently said “Christmas”. I’m not sure anyone heard me above the Christmas Festive songs they were playing , but can you advise if I should expect a knock at the door in the middle of the night?

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Let's hope there were no leftie wokey snowflake leftsters in the vicinity taking a break from pandering. I've heard they report you for that to The Left Wing Council and they make you give up your house to migrants. This actually happened to my cousins neighbours hairdressers nephew and they actually banned him from being white. THIS IS TRUE.

SerendipityJane · 22/11/2025 18:32

I doubt the knuckle draggers could have managed without the power of "AI".