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Who are people who find Christmas offensive

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Blopi · 22/11/2025 06:43

It really boils my piss when organisations curtail Christmas stuff as it may offend people.

Who are these people who find Christmas offensive? In my life I have worked and met people from various religions, cultures and countries. NOT one found Christmas and things that go with it. I didn’t work with Jehovah Witnesses but they don’t get offended. Most said they decorated their homes, wore Xmas jumpers and ate food which was suitable or tailored to their religion. Those who didn’t decorate their homes love seeing trees lit up.

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Luxio · 22/11/2025 08:11

Mothership4two · 22/11/2025 08:10

Banning the word Christmas literally never happened

Edited

Exactly. I've never yet on any of these threads which appear yearly like clockwork seen an example banning Christmas. Hmm

FartyAnimal · 22/11/2025 08:11

I work at a boarding school with kids from all over. We do Christmas outings, lunch etc and they all love it. The only thing that they don't do is the church service if they aren't Christians. So no offence taken by other cultures. It's a daily mail/reform thing to make us resent immigrants.

Rewis · 22/11/2025 08:11

In our school (to be fair, it has been a few years) 65-70% of the student body speaks a foreign language as their native language. Obviously there are Christians in the mix as well but majority are muslim. The ones that complain are the "non-foreigner" local atheists. Same on out scoutd Christmas party. The Muslim and Hindus are the most active in Christmas Carol singing.

My guess a lot of times when places make the 'don't want to offend' decisions haven't actually spoken to anyone. I've noticed in my hobbies that the concern doesn't usually come from the target group. Meaning whenever we talk about fees. The ones most concerned about affordability for others and need everything to be practically free are the ones who can afford it, the ones who have less (unemployed, students) etc. Have never complained and alway pay in time.

Thingsaretight · 22/11/2025 08:11

bigliness · 22/11/2025 08:00

Here's another example (Winter Market rather than Christmas Market):

https://www.southbankcentre.co.uk/activity/winter-market/

Edited

Because it’s not running solely for Christmas?

Mothership4two · 22/11/2025 08:10

GeneralPeter · 22/11/2025 08:06

This is a lovely uniting topic. Both sides get to overstate their claim and feel very smug about how right their are.

”You can’t say Christmas these days”, clearly false.

”This literally never happens”, also clearly false.

Banning the word Christmas literally never happened

Thingsaretight · 22/11/2025 08:09

Lifelover16 · 22/11/2025 08:06

I can give an example.
Birmingham City Council.
The Christmas Market in the city ( rubbish though it is) is now officially called the Winter Market.
The Christmas lights in the town flash “ Happy Holidays”
iThere must be some very offended councillors.

That’s just it becoming Americanised though

GehenSieweiter · 22/11/2025 08:09

Lifelover16 · 22/11/2025 08:06

I can give an example.
Birmingham City Council.
The Christmas Market in the city ( rubbish though it is) is now officially called the Winter Market.
The Christmas lights in the town flash “ Happy Holidays”
iThere must be some very offended councillors.

It is a winter market is it not?
Do we not want people to enjoy the holidays, if they have some?

UsernameMcUsername · 22/11/2025 08:08

Owly11 · 22/11/2025 07:14

Any organisation i have worked in in the last 20 years has changed from any emails being sent out around that time as referring to the 'holiday season' and not to Christmas directly as a religious festival. I have assumed that this is so as not to upset anyone that doesn't celebrate Christmas or to be inclusive of different celebrations falling around that time. Also the assumption seems to be that Christmas is not a religious festival anymore, even though of course it is for Christians. However other religious festivals will be mentioned by name such as Hanukkah and Eid etc. at other times. So in my experience there has been a subtle cultural shift around language.

I think that's a good way of putting it - its subtle but its there. And actually I think its overwhelming generated by 'white British' secular Guardian readers, many of whom enjoy a little bit of 'owning the Christians' if they're honest about it.

As a Christian I draw a clear distinction in my mind between Christmas the Christian festival and Christmas the food'n'tat fest. I celebrate both quite happily, but I think for most Brits of all beliefs Christmas is just the latter and isn't offensive to anyone

Mothership4two · 22/11/2025 08:08

bigliness · 22/11/2025 08:00

Here's another example (Winter Market rather than Christmas Market):

https://www.southbankcentre.co.uk/activity/winter-market/

Edited

And yet they are holding 'Christmas' concerts there

GehenSieweiter · 22/11/2025 08:07

Burntt · 22/11/2025 07:58

I actually think it’s right to celebrate the holiday season or whatever phase people want to use instead of calling it Christmas. I’m Christian and celebrate Christmas, I don’t like my religious celebration appropriated and watered down. A holiday season full of joy, shared meals, gifts and seeing family is a wonderful thing and all people should be able to do that absolutely! Just don’t call it Christmas because for most it’s not the celebration of the birth of Christ at all.

I mean, christans actually renamed a midwinter festival, and so I feel people can call it what they like, and celebrate how they like. I hope you can celebrate in ways that are meaningful to you, and let others do the same. Nobody owns christmas.

Lifelover16 · 22/11/2025 08:06

I can give an example.
Birmingham City Council.
The Christmas Market in the city ( rubbish though it is) is now officially called the Winter Market.
The Christmas lights in the town flash “ Happy Holidays”
iThere must be some very offended councillors.

GeneralPeter · 22/11/2025 08:06

This is a lovely uniting topic. Both sides get to overstate their claim and feel very smug about how right their are.

”You can’t say Christmas these days”, clearly false.

”This literally never happens”, also clearly false.

OttersMayHaveShifted · 22/11/2025 08:05

Wow - this is the most obvious example of faux-outraged shit-stirring. Nobody is offended. Hilarious that you couldn't dig up a more recent example than some local nonsense in Stoke on Trent from 2014 Grin

TidyCyan · 22/11/2025 08:05

Oh my god, someone here fell for the Tesco trees story 😂. Disappointed but not surprised.

CurlewKate · 22/11/2025 08:04

It’s,as far as I am aware, not about anyone finding Christmas offensive, but about making one lot of celebrations to include all midwinter-adjacent celebrations.

Thepeopleversuswork · 22/11/2025 08:03

This is a total myth designed to titillate the tabloids. There are stories about Christmas being “banned” in the papers every year and invariably they turn out to be a massive overstatement of what’s happened.

I have worked with numerous Muslim and Jewish people over the years in different organisations and none of them has ever been “offended” by Christmas.

sashh · 22/11/2025 08:02

Aweekoffwork · 22/11/2025 07:12

Tesco are not selling :

Xmas trees - they’re selling Evergreen Trees
Xmas cake - they’re selling Iced Top Fruit Cake

If you were bothered to look at the full picture, all the trees are in a large cardboard crate, labelled 'Christmas trees', they have option including 'evergreen' but also one with built in LED lights, an alpine snow version.

The cake is a fruit cake, the box it is in has Christmas trees and there is holly on the cake. Again it is one of a variety of cakes.

Mothership4two · 22/11/2025 08:01

On the Stoke on Trent City Council website there are frequent mentions about Christmas and not one (that I could find) about Winterfest.

Crudd99 · 22/11/2025 08:00

I lived in a mainly Muslim area for 10 years. Every year without fail my next door Muslim neighbour would bring me round chocolates and biscuits for Christmas.

AhBiscuits · 22/11/2025 08:00

After an hour of googling is that the best you can do? Stoke on Trent council 11 years ago?

Parker231 · 22/11/2025 08:00

Burntt · 22/11/2025 07:58

I actually think it’s right to celebrate the holiday season or whatever phase people want to use instead of calling it Christmas. I’m Christian and celebrate Christmas, I don’t like my religious celebration appropriated and watered down. A holiday season full of joy, shared meals, gifts and seeing family is a wonderful thing and all people should be able to do that absolutely! Just don’t call it Christmas because for most it’s not the celebration of the birth of Christ at all.

We call it Christmas as it’s the traditional name for the celebration although we are atheists so has no religious significance for us

dunroamingfornow · 22/11/2025 08:00

Owly11 · 22/11/2025 07:14

Any organisation i have worked in in the last 20 years has changed from any emails being sent out around that time as referring to the 'holiday season' and not to Christmas directly as a religious festival. I have assumed that this is so as not to upset anyone that doesn't celebrate Christmas or to be inclusive of different celebrations falling around that time. Also the assumption seems to be that Christmas is not a religious festival anymore, even though of course it is for Christians. However other religious festivals will be mentioned by name such as Hanukkah and Eid etc. at other times. So in my experience there has been a subtle cultural shift around language.

I do think this is more to do with the creeping use of American phrasing. You see that everywhere now

bigliness · 22/11/2025 08:00

Here's another example (Winter Market rather than Christmas Market):

https://www.southbankcentre.co.uk/activity/winter-market/

Friendlygingercat · 22/11/2025 07:59

I think OP is refering to the people who pressure for the word Christmas to be avoided in case it offends the delicate sensitivities of some other religious and cultural groups. Regardless of how other people celebrate or what deity they wordhip (or dont worship) Britain is supposed to be a Christian country. I am agnostic bit I see no offence in people celebrating an important religious event. No more than some of my neighbours celebrating Ramadan or visinng the Seikh temple. Im sure they are not offended and many of my Muslim neighbours decorate their houses and have flashing lights which can be seen all down the street.

The side of christmas I find deeply offensive is the pressure to consume and spend money on tat. Its offensive that parents with little money for necessities are made to feel bad about not being able to buy their children the latest tech or advertised tacky toy.

NiftyBird · 22/11/2025 07:58

ExperiencedTeacher · 22/11/2025 07:50

that article is 11 years old

Yes but it was cancelled until Donald Trump brought Christmas back in 2016.