Who are people who find Christmas offensive

Mainly this.

I worked with a Jewish teacher who didn't like taking part in Christmas events at school but did what she had to do and Jehovah's Witness parents who want their child removed from anything around Christmas which was quite difficult. Some took their children out of school for a holiday in the last couple of weeks of term but I don't know if they'd be able to do that now. I've never had Muslim parents raise any objection and they have been quite happy to see their little girls dressed as angels.

I can't stand the phrase "boils my piss." I don't think anyone tries to ban Christams. I do sometimes refer to "the holiday season" as I live in a multicultural country and a more general phrase acknowledges that not everyone celebrates Christmas but we all relax and rest. But there's no banning it.

Which organisations do you know have done or are proposing to do this? I’ve never come across any.

You’ve reminded me of the time DH came home saying that a colleague had told him Easter eggs weren’t allowed to be called that anymore. He wanted to check DS’s eggs (he’s 20, but too old for eggs)

Sure enough they all said Easter on the box.
DH is not usually so gullible but DS and I had a good laugh and proceeded to call them ‘spherical holiday chocolate’ until they’d all been eaten.

Well I’ve just googled Tesco and they definitely say “Christmas Trees” why don’t you check yourself.

Depends what you mean by 'banned'. In a widespread way, obviously not, no. I'm certainly not claiming it has been.

The claim is usually about orgs changing how they term things. I'd be amazed if not a single org ever has told their staff to avoid saying Christmas.

We're getting a bit off-topic here, but I maintain that in almost everything to do with human society 'not one instance ever' is a huge claim. At least for things where the population is enormous (all orgs, of any size, at any point in history). The obvious reply is your one, i.e. well find one instance then, but that only works if we can search all instances. But clearly this isn't one of those cases.

I have never come across a single person who was offended by Christmas or by the use of the word Christmas. But I’ve come across a lot of people claiming that this is the case. Usually if you ignore them for long enough they go away.

Stephen Fry talked about this very issue back in 2007 on QI

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You’re talking an insane amount of bollocks. I was there last weekend, it literally says Birmingham Christmas Market on ever sign and the menu’s are even Christmas Menu’s. Where have you got this rubbish from?.

Think it’s DEI peeps in these organisations. My University seem to have had no issue with posting on Divali etc, but we are apparently closing for the ‘Winter Festival’. So, the cultural sensitivity seems to only go one way.

This annoys me because I was raised in a mixed faith household - dad muslim, but LOVES Christmas. It was always a big thing in my house, so I don’t understand why all of a sudden it’s culturally insensitive to refer to it as Christmas!

When I lived in Dubai they had Christmas decorations everywhere!

It's just a lie created by the bigots. I've worked with people from different cultures and religions, they all get involved with the Christmas traditions, helping decorate the office, Christmas works meal, secret santa.

In some organisations Christmas has kind of been rebranded but it's to cover various religious events, not that they're anti Christmas. Everyone I've ever met who's of a different faith has celebrated something.

My experience is of multi nationals for whom Happy Holidays covers a multitude on a corporate level.

Seasonal egg, anyone?

It'll be Easter next. Regular as clockwork.

It's shocking in my local Tesco.

Alongside the masses of Christmas puddings and cakes they actually have a few other things like mini syrup sponges and chocolate bombes, presumably as "alternatives".

It's just woke nonsense to indulge any refusal to eat traditional Christmas fare. Pathetic people who plead "but I just don't really like dried fruit" should be force fed currants and sultanas for the whole of Advent.

It’s a huge claim to make that anything literally never happened

I was assuming that posters would have enough commonsense to understand I meant in recent times in the UK* as that's what is brought up and not going back to the Puritan ban in 1644.

Despite the frothing no-one is ever able to show any evidence of a ban.

*apparently sometimes cited as occurring in other Western counties too

It gave the Reform type people a chance to sneer at woke lefties and get on their soapbox.

My parents read the Daily Mail and I can clearly remember them talking about “PC gone mad” and the word Christmas being banned when I was a child. I’m nearly 40 and Christmas still hasn’t been cancelled. It’s divisive shite.

In the last few years the company I work for has switched from using Christmas to words like Festive, winter and holidays for internal staff events and communications around Christmas. So, I think this stuff does happen on a small scale but it’s just misguided DEI not some big conspiracy.
Both sides need to calm down, yes the word Christmas is sometimes swapped for another word, no it’s not because it’s been banned or because people are offended.

Come on! It's an annual ritual. Like moaning when the clocks go back/forward.

I don't think it's a huge claim to be fair. No one has ever shown any proof that it's been banned. Moving towards a more generic greeting or categorising a group of events occuring in winter as a winter festival doesn't mean Christmas has been banned.

If someone provides any proof I will happily change my opinion but until then I maintain it's accurate to say it has never happened.

I think this is just another creeping Americanisation. For a long time in the US they have used terms like “Happy Holidays” to cover a long festive period from Thanksgiving to Christmas - including Hannukah. So the term has been generalised.

In the UK we absorb and adopt lot of US culture, and those ranting about “creeping Islamification” never seem to worry about creeping Americanisation. In fact many of those people continually appeal to Donald Trump !

And the outrage is entirely manufactured. On social media, it seems like the idiot army learn what today’s outrage is (oh no Tesco evergreen trees) and all go nuts posting about that. Next day - new outrage for them to sheepishly grift about.

I don’t understand where this Tesco crap has come from. It’s the style of the tree. Evergreen tree (green), Snowy tree (you guessed it has fake snow on it). It’s so people who want a green tree know what’s inside the box and don’t accidentally buy one with snow on it. All shops have been doing this for years so customer know the difference between the types. Asda are also naming their trees this way btw, I saw them yesterday but no one is gunning for them for some reason.

I know this is pedantic, but relatively few Brits are atheists judging by surveys. And IIRC atheism is actually an older people thing these days. Most Brits are non-religious in the traditional sense, but aren't atheist. And even then we're really only talking about white Brits. The current massive wave of imimmigration isn't exactly a win for secularism.