Who are people who find Christmas offensive

Why do you post lies?

Go away. Looking at your other comments on here, it seems you’re on here for a bun fight this morning. Not engaging….

This.

It's not the left though, is it? The only offence I ever see is from people being outraged about nonexistant banning of Christmas. I never actually see anyone, leftie, woke or whatever, wanting Christmas banned.

It's another thing stoked up by right wing media.

Nobody is cancelling Christmas. Nobody is in an uproar, it's the same shit every year.

Don't be silly. It sounds as if you are already a paid up member.

Yes, that bullshit. See, you did it again.

I like it when people like the OP think everyone else is a delicate snowflake when they're the ones getting their knickers in a bunch and frantically trawling the internet to find 11 year old news articles.

This time of year is simply about spending lots of money to have a nice time in winter. It has next to no link in most people's minds with the birth of Jesus, so I personally don't think it matters what they call it.
Retailers deciding they'd hit a wider market, or employers deciding to call the annual piss up a name that's more reflective of the completely secular thing it is, is not the same as a group of mythical people 'taking offence' at Christmas. You may be able to provide links of people doing away with the word, but I challenge you to provide one where another faith has called for it to be banned because they're 'offended'.
If you want to debate whether organisations should drop the religious link, fair enough. But stick to the facts rather than extrapolate that people are driving this because they are offended.

This is what my dh heard so he went to Tesco to check for himself and said its bs Christmas is everywhere in the store . I have also seen their Christmas magazine ( has the word Christmas all over it)

Please could you let me know how I can become a member of the Woke Community? I didn't know there was an actual organisation you could join. Thanks...

🙄 What bullshit is that? My opinion that it’s actually not Muslims who are offended, but the professionally offended lefties who like to patronise Muslims and others by speaking on their behalf. Ususally wide of the mark too. If you think it’s Muslims and others who are the ones saying they’re offended, then that’s up to you, but I don’t agree as has been said on here by others, I work with alongside other religious groups, and they aren’t offended by Xmas at all……..stop being patronising and trying to speak on their behalf…

Yes but it isn't it odd how these things never occurred to them say two decades or less ago?

I find it odd at any rate.

How did they demonstrate their offence?
it’s also important to remember that there are knob heads in all races and religions. And I know Christians who are offended by Halloween. There was a family in my ds’s class who wanted Harry Potter removed from the class library.

I dare say that if sales drop on those items this year they will label them differently next year. Other supermarkets are readily available

These type of threads often hint or outright mention banning Christmas. OP angrily talking about people taking offence seems (to me) pretty clear if it is offensive then it wouldn't be used at all.

Every example cited on this thread so far frequently uses the word Christmas on their websites and/or in their literature.

Personally don't see a problem with calling something a Winter market if that is when it's held. Not seen any evidence that any organisation has done this and not had other Christmas events.

I’m old enough to remember the outrage Birmingham City Council caused nearly 30 years ago with their “Winterval”, causing rhe permanently narrow minded to screech about how “they” want to cancel Christmas.

In reality, it was the city council trying to get as much value from the huge bill of putting up and taking down the lights. They thought it would be better value to have the lights up longer, to cover more events through the season and to attract more people into the city.

But for some reason it sent angry people into a tizz claiming Christmas has been cancelled

are they not calling it a winter market to extend the length of time they can have it??? would be a bit weird to go to a christmas market on 3rd January!

most of this stuff is about retailers/organisers having events that are winter/festive not christmas. if an event happens in November or January why are people outraged at it not being branded "christmas"?

I think the woke community is offended on behalf of others-thus we have Tesco selling Evergreen trees, Sainsbury's and Tony Chocoloni (sp) selling Countdown calendars and Greggs selling Festive Bakes.

These things used to have Christmas in their description.

There are many other examples and it won't take you long to look.

So, some big businesses clearly do think some will be offended by the word, Christmas: whether this is due to their own research or them simply being woke twats is not known but I suppose the answer to that is discoverable too.

We have people of all faiths attending our Xmas dinner and joining in the secret Santa. And we always cover Eid for those who want it.

So! I always thought this whole debate was just utter bollocks until last year when I managed to offend two people by asking them what their plans were over the Christmas break, and they both reacted badly and made it clear they were offended to be asked.

Both I think were Muslims, and I suppose saw me as asking how they were celebrating a religious holiday of another denomination. They weren’t anyone I know personally or worked with - think person working in a shop I was chatting to level of interaction.

I’m not even religious, to me Christmas is basically ‘the 1-2 weeks in December when everything grinds to a halt and most people get time off work’.

TBF I don’t think it will impact my asking people exactly the same question this year, if you live in the UK you’re going to be asked about your Christmas plans, it’s part of the culture here (rather than a religious festival per se). And every other person I’ve ever encountered who is actively another religion and discussed Christmas seems to still celebrate it in some format just for the fun of it… usually to the extent of buying presents, a tree etc.

I do however try and remember now to comment when it’s other people’s religious holidays - as I think it’s nice to do so.

I don't think anyone thinks Christmas is offensive, but if an atheist is organising it, maybe they don't feel the need to make it overtly Christian? I mean loads of us celebrate Christmas which is basically a rebranding of the pagan winter solstice feasts and celebrations. It's okay to want to do winter festivities without virtue signalling to Christian religion since most of the people complaining don't even go to church or practice Christianity anyway. 🤷‍♀️

I'm atheist and I don't care if its called Christmas and call it Christmas myself, but I also don't care if its called wintervus by some nameless organisation, council at the other end of the country or whatever because I really couldn't give two fucks about all this manufactured outrage since noones stopping me celebrating how I want.

We can still call it what we want in our own homes you know or even organise our own ultra religious community events.

Btw this same fucking non issue comes up every bloody year, Christmas and Easter and I'm getting sick to the back teeth of it. 🙄

They are labelled as Evergreen as opposed to white or tinsel type trees. Tescos, Sainsbury's, Lidl, Aldi - all full of Christmas products.

We have a local independent stationers that has been running my whole life by the same family who are Hindu. Every religious festival, for all religions, they stock up on cards, decorations etc . It's always been a very multicultural area. I grew up with Irish, Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, Jamaican kids

Recently they were attacked and abused for having a nativity scene in their window, because it was Christian. Its lovely melting pot atmosphere is becoming very focussed on division. It's sad

I agree it's a horrible phrase.