Who are people who find Christmas offensive

I work in a team / department that has staff from all over the world. We live in a very multicultural area (London borough). No-one in my 25yrs there been offended at Christmas decs, cards, meals etc. And if they had been, I’ve have heard about it in my role. We have one person who has said (very politely) she doesn’t want to take part in anything that’s specific to Christmas) but this is down to her religion.

The shops are absolutely awash with advent calendars of all descriptions, all clearly labelled as such.

My kids were talking about this last night as it was all over tik t9k. Tesco have been doing this since the 90s apparently. Ppl posted old pics of them. It's all fabricated outrage again. And pathetic imo.

Actually it does. Decorating with evergreens was/is a pagan tradition.

From York Museum: "Bringing greenery indoors is one of our oldest seasonal traditions. In Europe before Christianity, people decorated their homes with greenery for festivals. We know this because important early bishops gathered to discuss whether Christians should be allowed to do this too. Some thought it was too pagan, but Pope Gregory the Great was in support."

Lights, festive trappings and even a reference to keeping your belly ‘merry’ with the range of foods on offer. But not a Christmas market.

Oof we are in the business of enforcing Christams traditions, I would like to put in a bid for returning to the tradition that Christmas STARTS on 25 December and carries on until 6 Jan. None of this putting up your decorations on 1 December and taking them down on 26 December wokery.

I work in events, this weekend alone I’m working at three ‘Christmas Light Switch On’ Events which are advertised as such. Last weekend I worked at a ‘Light Up’ event. Now the OP and her equally enraged Tommy Robinson loving pals would no doubt declare the reason for this is that the council in question last week were cancelling Christmas to avoid offending minorities (let’s not piss about here, the only minority they are ever referring to is Muslims). In reality, they were given an Arts Council grant to hold a light festival with loads of big light up costumes, light up drummers etc and it made sense to combine that with turning on the Christmas Lights in the town. It had fuck all to do with cancelling Christmas and at the end of the event the lights on the town Christmas tree came on and fake snow blasted out from the rooftop of B&M bargains whilst the dulcet tones of Mariah bleeding Carey blasted out. I assume there is a similar reason why Stoke Council changed the name of their event 11 years ago and why some markets are branded as Winter markets etc. Not everything is about being offended.

I think you’re on the wrong thread.

This. Our local garden centre does the same. Customers are signposted to ‘Christmas Trees’ and there’s a section for ‘Live Trees’.

Tell them to organise with their son, he’s not shared his plans with you yet so you don’t know what he’s doing

tell them they’re always welcome to pop in for a cuppa/see kids/do presents etc, just let you know when etc etc

put ZERO effort into doing anything for this, just leave the door open for them.

Any particular reason you feel the need to be so rude ? I was answering a poster who was under the impression that the tradition of trees predated Christianity. I was simply relating how the tradition came about in the UK.

Do you not think that shops selling ‘countdown calendars’ are part of the reason that the understanding of ‘advent’ is dying out ?

I've never encountered anyone who has spoken out about being offended at Christmas.

For most people it's take it or leave it but not something to get offended about.

It’s literally called the Birmingham Frankfurt Christmas Market 😂😂😂

Here, here’s the website a 2-second Google would have found you before you made an eejit of yourself again, @Blopi thebfcm.co.uk

No shit, Sherlock

They are calling them "live trees" to distinguish them from artificial trees or cut trees. Live trees aren't just for Christmas, they live for years in a pot.

A few years ago I got an email from my
department/faculty head (in a university) saying “happy midwinter festival”. You do see the odd example of this type of thing. BUT I have never met an actual person who claimed to be offended by Christmas and preferred the “midwinter festival” style of wording. I’ve wondered if it was well-intentioned but unnecessary and misguided - we don’t need to erase anyone’s culture in order to live together, I think it’s better to highlight and celebrate and welcome others to the party (if they’re interested!)

How much would you like to bet it's got a Christmas section?

But it's not a Christmas market.

I don't think posters are being disingenuous, maybe fed up at the annual madey upy I'm-so-furious-Christmas-is-banned threads that appear like clockwork that are divisive and a tad racist. Every example given on here of organisations avoiding the word Christmas is untrue they all very much use that word a lot. No-one has yet provided examples where this happens. IRL I have never come across this or anyone alleging to be offended by the word Christmas. {Maybe your New York example would be to do with the fact that they have the largest community of Jews outside of Israel? Just a guess? But I would have disagreed with the restaurant)

And every year the Daily Mail and the Telegraph perpetuate this myth and wind up their readers (and make money).

Bloody Germans. Coming over here and importing their traditions 😁

Does anyone really have to issue an outright ban though ? The notion that putting up a tree or designating a ‘Christmas’ market, or any other public Christmas event is going to offend others can be enough in itself.

Our local Christmas market has always been designated as such, up until this year. Now it’s a Winter Fayre. The Christmas trappings still appear but the the actual word doesn’t appear in any of the advertising. Someone, somewhere has made that decision on behalf of everyone. It may not be a ban, but l do think there’s a certain amount of policing going on by those who take it upon themselves to be offended on behalf of other cultures and denominations, who in reality haven’t raised any objections.

Why not? It's hardly outing.

Nobody is offended by Christmas and nobody is banning it.

Organisations may ask for celebrations to be inclusive, so not too alcohol focussed not too much religion without recognising other faiths, ensuring dietary requirements are met, ensuring disabled and neurodiverse people aren't excluded.

At my workplace we celebrate Christmas but we also celebrate Diwali, Eid, Hanukkah, Chinese New Year, St Patrick's Day, and various secular festivals.

And largely imported by a German (Prince Albert)!