To not really get why people don’t like clothes?

I do agree the op has posted in quite a condescending manner, and I think people do understand, they just don’t like it, although judging or making assumptions, which is the more accurate term, based on appearance is something everyone does.

curiously people posting I just don’t care in the midst of an angry text, actually come across like they care very much,they care very much that people maybe making assumptions about them based on their appearance, but everyone absolutely knows it’s the norm to do so,

as said uo thread, put 3 women in front of someone, one dressed in a short, tight, low cut body con dress and high heels, with a face full of Botox and hair extensions, one in a Breton jumper, Chelsea boots and mom jeans, with no make up , and hair scraped back, one dressed in a business suit, loafers, neat hair and subtle make uo, and they give 3 very different impressions, even though they may all be the same woman on different days,

Didn't seem to move on much for the OP. She's still at the "all of you little people don't understand my massively complex argument" phase of denial.

I don't know that many posters are really disputing that (some, many?) people will judge others and make assessments of them based on what they are wearing. I don't doubt this happens all the time.

It's just that I don't care.

Unless I'm going to a job interview or a work event where a certain standard/style is mandated, my only priority is being comfortable, warm and not scaring the horses. Other people, especially strangers, are free to judge away. I'm not going to change how I dress just because others may be watching - far less some rando walking past me on the street.

The point is whatever you wear or don’t wear is masking a statement albeit unconsciously.

Yes but the discussion moved on, as I’m sure you’re aware.

Her question was actually why people don’t like clothes.

Why does it bother you so much that other people don’t want to express themselves or make a statement through clothing?

This has been an interesting read. I think I'm somewhere in the middle. I don't like shopping, find it very stressful, and have no interest in being fashionable. I'd normally say I don't care what I look like, and I do stick to variations on the same staples most of the time. But I'm realising that even that probably says a fair bit about me - I'm a middle-aged, middle class mum, who prioritises comfort and anonymity over aesthetics.

I've also, like a few others have mentioned, got a whole load of baggage from being a child/teen, where on the few occasions I wore something unusual or particularly "expressive," I got torn to shreds by my peers for not getting it right. Or from being the poor scholarship kid at a private school absolutely dreading every non-uniform day because I could never compete with the designer labels the others had. So I stopped trying, and found safety in (what some might consider) bland inoffensiveness.

I wonder if @keeponwishing and the others who enjoy clothes would have respected my attempts at the time, or if they'd have been the ones leading the mocking?

Also, quite like White Stuff (especially via Vinted) and had never heard of Plümo so googled it and now I have ads for their giant boxy clothing everywhere!

I'm 6' tall and mostly thigh. There is not "so much choice out there" for me. It's pretty soul destroying when you're a teenage girl and not a single shop sells trousers that fit, or you have to wear mens coats and jumpers for the sleeve length. The UK high street treats me like some kind of circus freak, so no, I don't see clothes as a way to express myself.

Plenty of posters find her rude and I think I made it pretty clear (as have others) what is objectionable about her posts.

If you don’t, great. One of the 15% of voters who think she’s being reasonable.

I’m currently losing weight and it’s only recently that I’ve developed an interest in clothes. Before that, clothes were just a thing to disguise my shape but as I’m getting closer to goal, clothes are becoming a thing to enhance my shape. I can’t speak for others but for me, that’s why I used to have no interest.

I don’t see what’s rude. She’s just stating facts.

It wasn't meant entirely seriously. 👍

You are easily the rudest, most repetitive and obtuse poster I’ve seen on here all week. You seem to have nothing to contribute to the discussion that YOU started other than supercilious remarks to other posters who disagree with you that they “don’t get it” because the concept is too complex and difficult for their tiny minds.

What is clear is that you DON’T care about impressing/conveying a positive image of yourself to others in any way except through what you use to cover your body.

If this is some strange attempt to gauge the temperature of the market for a personal shopping service, you really need to work on your interpersonal skills first.

But plenty have agreed with her.

im surprised at this thread, there is palpable anger in some of the responses. Like somehow the op is to blame for people making assumptions about each other based on appearance, or that she’s somehow shallow and unreasonable.

Which makes no sense, as everyone knows full well people judge you, make assumptions, based on your appearance. That you give an impression based on it. How you present to the world is something that causes people to make assumptions.

rich, poor, slovenly, dull, sexy, try hard, out going, messy, boring, confident, whatever, the assumption, the impression you give may be wrong, or different at different times based on what you wear, but you do give that. A woman walking in dressed like she’s walked off the set of ceebeebies gives a very different impression to one who walks in in a body con dress and sky scraper heels, to one who walks in in a business suit. Sure they may all be the same woman on different days, but people will absolutely make assumptions based on your appearance at that moment.

our clothes, our hair, our footwear, our makeup. even our bodies, fat, thin, fit, whatever, it all says something about us at thay moment.

I have arthritis.

My clothing is selected because of a lack of buttons / fastenings.

Roomy enough for swollen joints or to allow for wrist splints.

Shoes have to be flat and preferably slip on.

No you are misunderstanding it.

Clothes are tribal. They help us identify potential mates and friends. It’s not all about personality.

Maybe I’m just insanely trivial. But l’m not.

il find it weird that it wouldn’t bother you. I also have loads of things going through my head, it’s not just your mind.

But it’s all anthropolgy. Some people like clothes, some don’t. It’s all tribal.

So you could meet the kindest, most interesting and vibrant person at a party......but you would judge them and overlook them based on the clothes on their back? Possibly the most shallow thing I have read in a long time.

’vacuous’

Too lowbrow for you? It’s many many things. Vacuous isn’t one of them. Do you regard anthropology as vacuous? Because that’s what it is.

Do you care that much what people would walk past you would think? It's never occured to me to worry about something like that

It’s for all people. Everything you choose or reject says something about you.

Some people consciously choose clothes to express and the rest do. It unconsciously by professing no interest. It’s all communication though, even if you don’t want it to be.

I find this kind of stuff excruciating and vacuous and my clothes probably reflect that

And this is what all clothing does. It’s all tribal.

I hate shopping; however, what I do wear fits well, is clean, tidy, and I do make sure I'm turned out well. I dont care about fashion, however, what I hate most about what's in the shops is that what I want to wear often doesnt come in women's sizes. For example, I look at styles of trousers/cargo pants, etc that only come in men's sizes, and the women's sizes are a completely different cut, missing pockets, and come in colours I hate. Therefore, it's very difficult to 'express' my personality as I just dont conform to what retailers sell for women, and why should I compromise?.
Like I said, though, it doesn't stop me from making sure I'm well turned out, tidy.

Yes exactly, identifying with a certain group.