What the heck! Trans women get periods apparently

This is Orwellian. And enraging.
Brighton again. Quelle surprise.

Surely Modibodi are on a fool's errand here (yes I will shoehorn in a Fleet Foxes reference), when they should be pivoting to the Adult Baby Diaper community .

For the love of god don't Google

Nope what I wrote was 100% correct.

You're so right. Other cases where we should just ignore things vulnerable people say:

'I'm fine! I don't need more than 300 calories a day.' 'Of course, darling. Let me help you throw half of that bowl of soup away.'

'I believe I am invulnerable. The voices in my head have told me so. I am going to walk into the traffic to prove it.' 'Right-o. Do you want me to give you a push?'

'I hate brushing my teeth. I won't do it any more.' 'Oh, all right then. You're 2 now, quite old enough to know your own mind. I will be a good ally to you as you express your authentic self this way and I will start saving up now for the extensive dental treatment you will need when you are older.'

By that logic, there is also a biological reason for terfs to exist, and frankly there are more people who don't lie about the reality of sex and what it means than there are those who do...

Menstruation: The monthly shedding of blood and tissue from the lining of the uterus (womb) when pregnancy does not occur.

Transgender women are biologically male, so don't have a uterus. If they don't have a uterus, how can they shed blood and tissue from it?

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I keep losing track of this thread, reading it arseways etc.
But in case it’s not been mentioned already, that ridiculous company this is all about should be trolled with non-stop playing outside the company HQ of Helen Reddy’s anthem ‘Only Women Bleed’.

Yes! Those awful signs that popped up in universities across the land that told people (largely women, I expect) that if they someone they didn't expect in the loos it was none of their business to ask what they were up to or back out and look for security or do any of the other obvious common sense things we'd all have taken for granted a few years ago.

There is a reason that people exist at all.... it is what happens when a sperm meets an egg.

There is a reason that people who claim to have transgender identities exist as well, they were born and they have philosophical belief that they have a gender identity that doesn't reflect material reality.

They absolutely do exist. Yes.

Do male people who have periods 'exist' without taking artificial hormones that their bodies don't produce naturally and have no medical purpose in those male bodies? No. They don't exist in nature. They only exist because doctors write them prescriptions for those hormones that their body do not require.

So, why are female people being told that any male person can have a 'period'?

No, the article clearly states that "some trans women" don't have uteruses which infers that other trans women do.

Whilst the article does talk about the apparent causes of periods by hormones, basically calling something that isn't a period a period.

Indeed and a lot of scientists (particularly evolutionary biologists) fall into this trap too, in that there is a "reason" why everything exists. By this logic there is a reason why cancer exists. I particularly hate the idea that something exists because it benefits a wider community, I just fail to understand how the biological development of a fertilised egg is influenced by the social practises of local community the mother lives in.

The fact is that humans are incredibly complex organisms and development can go wrong.

Probably go on and on, the same way people comment without actually reading fully.. if at all

To be honest I don't make a habit of following any of them so I wasn't aware this was the latest thing they're trying to co-opt from women.

Its just the most baffling to me because it's one of the worst bits about womanhood. Like if I could cherry pick the bits I wanted like they do, periods would be on the "no thank you" list.

If you read the article you’ll see what you’ve wrote is incorrect

Fuck off ModiBodi.

Weirdos.

Actually, special mention for this gem..

The fact is trans people have existed throughout history, so there is clearly a biological reason for them existing

I'll leave aside the call to "biological reasons" from the person who also called for biological facts to bugger off 🫠 Just the reasoning here is amazing. There certainly is a biological reason for men and women existing as separate sex classes, that being the survival of the species. And yes, men who claim to be women exist, but this alone doesn't imbibe them with any worthy "reason". And while men who claim to be women exist, men who actually are women do not.

I'd call for facts to bugger off and go get plastered too if this was what I had to say!

True and can all the people that state scientific facts about the Earth being round bugger off because it is hateful to flat-Earthers, it brings real damage to the them.

Scientific fact should never trump feelings.

Enough with the "exist" trope, no one denies that that the psychological condition of gender dysphoria doesn't exist. Psychological conditions may have a basis in biology but that can also be social constructs and be culture-bound syndromes etc.

People stating fact is not hate.

I am sick of this ridiculous, anti science position that seeks to affirm men's delusions at the expense of sense, reason and women's reality

We read it.

I thought it was a mainly a fact free zone though.

“And can the TERFs please bugger off with their ‘biological facts matter’ crap on this board. First off, a GCSE in biology does not make you an expert. The biology of chromosomes is actually far more complex, who knew! And let’s not even start on neurodevelopment, which is also biology. The fact is trans people have existed throughout history, so there is clearly a biological reason for them existing in all nations at all points through time, even if we don’t fully understand it. Screaming that people are lying or ignoring biology is wilful ignorance.”

The information about male people having ‘periods’ has nothing to do with people with Differences of Sex Development that you refer to with your comment about ‘chromosomes’. Perhaps it is you who has misunderstood science lessons.

There are also no biological markers that indicate that a male person has a transgender identity.

Male people who declare that they have periods have not been in existence throughout history. And while people may have experienced gender dysphoria, you politically leveraging homophobic and sexist cultures where people were poorly treated is not the gotcha you think it is.

”sorry for the rant, it has been a long day and I have truly had it with this hate filled nonsense which does real damage to people I love and their families.”

I wish you and the people you love all the support they need.

Thought you were 'not getting into this with anyone.' And were off for some wine.

The fact is trans people have existed throughout history, so there is clearly a biological reason for them existing in all nations at all points through time, even if we don’t fully understand it.

There are social reasons for every society in history finding a different way of accommodating gender-nonconforming people. The recent increase in the UK and other wealthy nations of people identifying themselves as trans or non-binary is largely confined to adult men, mostly middle-aged or older, and very young women and teenage girls. If there was a biological reason rather than a social one for this, surely we'd expect to see lots of middle-aged and elderly females transitioning. But we don't.

You need a uterus to have a period. Not all women have a uterus but only only women can have a uterus.

Facts are not hateful.

Wine is definitely easier than hanging around to defend your unsubstantiated accusations of bigotry. Enjoy.

Dear men
If you are bleeding out of your winkle, you do not need special lady pants, you need a doctor.

Fuck's sake, will this nonsense never end?