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Another childcare rant - how do people do it?!

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SMLSML · 20/11/2025 22:18

If you and your partner both work how do you manage childcare? My eldest started school in September and prior to this we had wraparound care in nursery. We now use after school club, however this is committee led and we've just had an email saying it's at risk of closure due to not enough volunteers. If you don't use after school club how do families make it work? Do grandparents help 5 days a week? Honestly sick of this country not helping working parents 🫠 the irony of parents needing to be on the committee to keep it open when you're already busy working and juggling a million other school bits and pieces is hilarious to me also 😅 it's something I'd love to be part of but have no idea how if find time... Any and all advice welcome!

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BringBackCatsEyes · 21/11/2025 08:33

What do other parents do, OP? You can't be the only family needing wraparound care who don't have family support.

Christmascarrotjumper · 21/11/2025 08:32

sisagdhihh · 21/11/2025 08:19

But what do you do when there is no provision available?

You have to plan ahead and pick a school and place to live that has options.

CheeseIsMyIdol · 21/11/2025 08:31

SMLSML · 21/11/2025 07:08

We did plan 😅 should have mentioned in the original post that this is literally the only option for us, both our sets of parents still work, no childminders in the area, don't have the type of job you can just work whilst they're home.. I don't expect the government to pay for everything but there has to be some leeway when they need kids to grow up and keep the country going, I'll never understand people saying it's your problem 😅 if there's no kids who's going to pay for you when you're drawing your pension? All that is off subject anyway 😅

What did you plan?

sisagdhihh · 21/11/2025 08:26

TidyCyan · 21/11/2025 08:22

My friend's village school doesn't (Wiltshire village). It is really small; under 50 children. The school community is high earning DHs and SAHMs or mums who do what my friend does and run their own small business in school hours. The ones who need childcare can afford a nanny.

As for us, I went part-time when DS was 1 working 9-2.30 4 days a week. I have recently changed jobs to 9-1 every weekday. DH does morning drops as he WFH.

It really is not easy; even with those hours we do still need breakfast and after school club as both DH and I are sometimes away with work and he leaves at 6am once a fortnight!

Regarding funding, all that's happened locally is that the per-hour funding isn't enough for nurseries so our old one has nearly doubled the prices of the hours people pay for, stopped providing food and added a supposedly voluntary surcharge.

Yeah this is what I mean, it’s interesting how different the school communities are. My SIL is struggling as they live rurally mostly farming families with a parent at home so no provision around them. One of the schools in our town is very different but has nothing, it’s in a very deprived area and trying to put it as delicately as possible not many of the parents are working traditional 9-5 hours.

TidyCyan · 21/11/2025 08:22

sisagdhihh · 21/11/2025 07:57

I’m always surprised when I hear of schools without any provision and wonder what their school community is like.

My friend's village school doesn't (Wiltshire village). It is really small; under 50 children. The school community is high earning DHs and SAHMs or mums who do what my friend does and run their own small business in school hours. The ones who need childcare can afford a nanny.

As for us, I went part-time when DS was 1 working 9-2.30 4 days a week. I have recently changed jobs to 9-1 every weekday. DH does morning drops as he WFH.

It really is not easy; even with those hours we do still need breakfast and after school club as both DH and I are sometimes away with work and he leaves at 6am once a fortnight!

Regarding funding, all that's happened locally is that the per-hour funding isn't enough for nurseries so our old one has nearly doubled the prices of the hours people pay for, stopped providing food and added a supposedly voluntary surcharge.

Christmascarrotjumper · 21/11/2025 08:20

I suppose this is the downside to choosing a small village school. I'm not really sure why you can't join the committee, if you're so dependent upon the club you need to make the time. Perhaps when on the committee, you could work towards a solution so that the committee isn't needed.

sisagdhihh · 21/11/2025 08:19

Wyksister · 21/11/2025 08:15

You pay for childcare 🤷🏼‍♀️

Childminders and Nannie’s both offer wrap around care

But what do you do when there is no provision available?

Cyclistmumgrandma · 21/11/2025 08:18

I became a SAHM and we were very broke. Second hand clothes and toys for the children. Holidays spent visiting grandparents. Then, when the mortgage rate on our 3 bed terrace went up to 15% and ate up 75% of husbands take home pay, leaving us about £200 per month for a family of four to live on, I became a child minder to bring in a little extra and prevent us losing the house. Selling the house wasn’t a viable financial option as we were in negative equity having bought when we moved back from abroad just before house prices tanked. Oh joy!

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 21/11/2025 08:15

If your commitments are work and one DC, then a monthly meeting to allow the provision to continue is a no brainer. It’s crucial to you, so step up. You may be able to make things more sustainable by getting involved.
Some companies allow time to contribute to a charity, check if either of yours do.

Apart from that, what about buddying up with another family? It’s not ideal when you don’t know each other, but might work.

Wyksister · 21/11/2025 08:15

You pay for childcare 🤷🏼‍♀️

Childminders and Nannie’s both offer wrap around care

TheatricalLife · 21/11/2025 08:13

I changed jobs so DH and I could cover childcare between us instead. It was shit working evenings and weekends, but got us through. We didn't have family childcare options available, so knew we'd have to make changes.
Hopefully your club won't close now they have asked for more help.

PurpleThistle7 · 21/11/2025 08:08

There’s no magic answer here. If the provision you use needs support to run then you can either provide the support or lose the service. Or you could try asking them to raise their costs to cover whatever it is they need the parents to do? It’s very odd to require parents to volunteer but maybe they just try to keep costs really low?

Youcancallmeirrelevant · 21/11/2025 08:08

I changed my job 2 years before we planned to have children so I would get full pay maternity leave, plus office hours and Flexi time to make childcare easier. We also moved to a town that had multiple nurseries and primary schools so the chances of good wrap around care would be possible.

Attictroll · 21/11/2025 08:07

Those saying kids need a longer school day so parents can work perhaps aren’t thinking of the impact on a child of a long day like that. The need to decompress- play- chill. It’s hard I get it but kids going to school is a shift and does need family alignment- it’s not the school day that is wrong it’s the need for two full time working parents. And that doesn’t mean the mum. Dads often work flexibly at our school and do many if not more pick ups and care

NormaNormalPants · 21/11/2025 08:05

We’ve opted to go private for this very reason.

Rubbertreesurgeon · 21/11/2025 08:01

SMLSML · 20/11/2025 22:18

If you and your partner both work how do you manage childcare? My eldest started school in September and prior to this we had wraparound care in nursery. We now use after school club, however this is committee led and we've just had an email saying it's at risk of closure due to not enough volunteers. If you don't use after school club how do families make it work? Do grandparents help 5 days a week? Honestly sick of this country not helping working parents 🫠 the irony of parents needing to be on the committee to keep it open when you're already busy working and juggling a million other school bits and pieces is hilarious to me also 😅 it's something I'd love to be part of but have no idea how if find time... Any and all advice welcome!

Paid childcare (childminder) or reducing your working hours (I had to do the latter as nobody wanted my disabled children in terms of wrap around).

newbluesofa · 21/11/2025 08:00

If people are so against the government subsidising childcare but also so against immigration I don't know how else we're going to deal with the falling birth rate which is going to become a real issue in the future!

Ineffable23 · 21/11/2025 07:59

How often are the meetings? Monthly? It sucks but it is a nightmare trying to get volunteers so you might have to squeeze it in somehow - presumably it closing would be even more inconvenient? Could you get together with some other people who use the club and agree to be on the committee for a year each or something?

sisagdhihh · 21/11/2025 07:57

I’m always surprised when I hear of schools without any provision and wonder what their school community is like.

sisagdhihh · 21/11/2025 07:56

We could only pick schools with childcare, be that childminders or after school club, if that wasn’t available, we simply couldn’t have used that school. We had to move schools part way through and top of the list had to be wraparound care availability, we dismissed anything without it, and ended up with a fair drive to it as a result.

Cantdothingsanymore · 21/11/2025 07:52

We changed jobs. It was wasn't sustainable. It still isn't and we have halved our income and downsized our house for a smaller mortgage. We have no regular help from anyone so one of us has to work from home with flexible hours. We have switched the role of who does that between me and DH over the years. This last two years it has been me, which means I am working two levels below my actual paygrade and really annoys me.
You can also get after school nannies, childminders and there is after school club, we have tried them all. But if they start doing a sport or hobby then you want to be able to take them to it too. Then ads another kid and it's just impossible unless someome is at home or you pay a fortune for a proper nanny with a car and who can do dinners and sports and bedtime. So unless you are far outearning a nannies wage then whats the point, and you will hardly be there for all their important stuff too.

Tumbleweed101 · 21/11/2025 07:51

We offer wraparound care at nursery for local primary schools. Some children left to go to the schools wraparound as it was cheaper then ended up coming back to us as the schools closed their provision! It is expensive for families though once funding has stopped although many still use UC or tax free childcare to help.

Jigglyhuffpuff · 21/11/2025 07:44

Yabu for having children. You should have realised the after school club would close. Your only choice now is to put them out on the street.

SMLSML · 21/11/2025 07:39

PrioritisePleasure24 · 21/11/2025 07:31

Aren’t the government subsiding nursery places . Yes i know it’s not all of it and only a small amount but many many parents before you had no financial help at all. Childcare industry is a mess and no one wants to work in such a difficult job for pennies anymore.

Goverment have put funding into breakfast clubs. Education is invested into. Nowhere near enough but that’s another thread. Parents do need to plan for when they have children not complain it’s the governments fault.

Also school hours referring to other posts aren’t the problem they are there enough hours for children to access an education not childcare. It’s work and flexibility that should be looked at. Some workplaces still push back when actually something could be worked out.

Just because parents before my had no help at all doesn't make it right. A generation ago a lot of women didn't work so they didn't have this issue. Yes they've put money into breakfast clubs but not across the whole country. Please don't believe everything you see in the news. I agree with you the whole thing needs overhauling big time, just an issue that gets sidelined constantly

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SheilaFentiman · 21/11/2025 07:37

nellly · 21/11/2025 07:30

Yes that sounds like a lovely idea in theory but crazy in practise. We use paid after school club. They have breakfast club too and it’s virtually never cancelled

It is paid for. The volunteer roles are on the managing/organising committee, not the service itself.

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