To say that women look bloody weird ….

Yes, I have noticed it on the MAFS contestants, and the Love Island ones too. Young women, as young as 19, with fillers, trout pout, and clearly fake boobs, eyelashes like tarantula legs, teeth that are ultra bright white, (and veneered, so each tooth looks the same as the last,) and hair extensions 2 feet long, that you can see are not real hair.

I have seen women as young as 19 to 23 with all this shit done to themselves, and they look like they are in their mid to late 30s. God knows what they'll look like in 10 years time, or 15, or 20. (You only have to look at Katie Price to see what they may look like!)

One look that is in right now, is that bizarre super shiny look. A few women in MAFS this year had it. And I know a few young women in their 20s and 30s who sport this look. They look like they've been fecking varnished!

(Example of the 'super shiny look' here in the pic below...)

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Eh, alcohol is a known carcinogen and people dont judge others for drinking that and its definitely known to cause cancer.

Some probably do and some probably don’t. It’s up to the individual woman to decide how she wants to look. Not sure it’s a good idea to pump yourself full of whatever it is they use but hey ho.

I get what you mean OP. Watching MAFS really makes me sad, it seems like most of them in recent years have had work done. It’s fine to get some treatments but the sheer volume of it shows it’s becoming more of a societal expectation now. Like I wouldn’t dream of going to work without make up due to my experience, a lot of younger people also feel that pressure to have treatments.

I watched that new Xmas movie on Netflix with Alicia Silverstone and was amazed that she doesn’t appear to have had anything done! The fact this felt so different to me, shows that it is quite rare nowadays.

I can’t believe the strength of the negative responses to you, I’d be interested to know if they are all from people who have fillers/botox etc and are defensive?

I wont flame you! you are entitled to your opinion.

However, nobody "needs" makeup, or hair dye, or brand new clothes or a nice new car, or holidays, or a house bigger than their requirements (eg if there are two of you in a couple, you dont "need" more than a one bedroom property) etc etc

The argument that we shouldn't have what we dont absolutely "need" would apply to every single person online I would think because every single one if us has something we dont "need".

But lots of people are saying in this thread that men prefer the natural look

I have no beauty to speak of. What I do see are naturally very attractive women corrupting their beautiful appearance - I suspect because they see themselves primarily through screens. I think they are succumbing to peer pressure, and feel they are not attractive enough. I'm not blaming individual women. But I am saying that that the effect of getting that work done is to perpetuate the environmental pressure that is felt by women who succumb to it. It is a self feeding loop which is expanding and affects how all women view themselves and judge their appearance. If you don't know anyone with fillers it would never occur to you to consider it. If you know many women with fillers, to many it feels more like justifying why you haven't already. The industry predates women's insecurities and often deep vulnerabilities. The normalisation of these procedures affect us all.

Possibly the rise of all this cosmetic work coincides with the ease of access to online pornography. Women think they have to look a certain way 🤷‍♀️

Cillian Murphy looks terrifying recently?! He used to be stunning.

It's worse with the men I think.

But Vogue Williams used to be absolutely gorgeous about 20 years ago, her face was totally different. Not just because she was young as her figure looks the same.

Some women just can’t wait to have a go at other women, there are several women on I’m a celeb, only two have had work, vogue and ruby, the rest seem completely natural, or did you not bother with them op?

It takes a certain amount of arrogance to believe your opinion about someone’s face is more valid than the person the face belongs to.

In your opinion they don’t look good, in their opinion they might be very happy with how they look.

Imagine someone started a thread saying how ugly wrinkled women are, how it’s a shame they let themselves go.

Why can’t we all just look after our own face in whatever way we see fit and not comment on other people’s.

For the record, no, I haven’t had Botox or cheek fillers etc.

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I'm almost certainly going to get flamed for this, but here goes:

Imho plastic surgery should be limited to two categories:

• Disfigurement as a result of cancer, burns or injury
• Physical abnormalities/problems, ie back pain, deviated septum, inverted eyelashes

Nobody needs fuller lips or botox. Or BBLs. Or breast augmentations.
Your natural looks, what you were born with, are far more attractive than any highly-skilled plastic surgeon can ever achieve. Remember that.

God these threads are so tiresome
Why does anyone else care about someone else’s face? I might look at other women and not like their hair or think they look frumpy but that’s fuck all to do with mr and I’d not give it more than a fleeting thought. Live and let live

YANBU. It's awful. It's so refreshing when you do see someone with a natural, non plastic face these days!

True. However, if you state your opinion that it looks odd you will be attacked by people who have had it done and think it isn't odd at all. Differing opinions, some think it looks odd and doll like or robotic and others thinks it's natural or a look they want to 'improve themselves'. Some get very aggressive stating their opinions!

This. I have no ‘natural beauty’. I have a face like a robber’s dog. I still think other people should do whatever they want to themselves.

Yes, I find this strange too. If the prevailing view from men and most women is "yuck it looks awful" which is what people are arguing then there is surely no need to be concerned about people doing it- you can rest in the knowledge that your natural look is far superior and desired by men without any need to feel threatened by it

It doesn't impact us though. I'm as natural as they come, no make up, no nails, no surgery, no hair dye, no nothing - so what if others wear tons of make up or whatever though?!
It might not be to my taste, but they're not me.
People need to stop policing and judging what other women do or don't wear.

I'm curious as to why you feel women doing things to their appearance that people on here are arguing makes them look awful, that no one likes, especially men (because that's the important thing!) has a negative impact on those women who don't do these things?
Surely you can get on with your lives happy in the knowledge that your natural beauty is superior, that men prefer you, and that most women are not going to copy something that you think looks so hideous. So really this is rather a niche issue, that doesn't actually affect you at all?

This. The irony is unbelievable 🤣

Yup.

Yep. The barbie aesthetic is ingrained into their brains.

“Enjoy their natural beauty”. So misogynistic. Still persisting with the mindset that all that matters is BEAUTY, and an even more mythical standard of “natural” beauty. Whatever that means. No make up, no high heels, no Spanx, no gym. Now maybe you will say but all these young women ARE naturally beautiful (or at least they were before they “ruined” their faces). To which I would respond, why are you spending so much time judging people (women) on the basis of what they look like?

I don't know if you're naive enough to believe it doesn't impact us or if you know fine well it does and you're just lying

That’s not why most people get it though is it.