To say that women look bloody weird ….

It's a deliberate thing, I think. They are signalling they are available and a certain sort of trashy, misogynistic man finds that pornbot look appealing. It's like having a facial tattoo really, most people will be very put off but you appeal to a niche audience.

I think too they often live their lives surrounded by bubbles of people with these abnormal standards, and want to fit in, prove they too can afford to destroy their faces for a fad.

I think it’s ok to comment on why society puts this pressure on women & discussing that doesn’t automatically mean you are slagging off other women. Do posters think it shouldn’t be commented on?

I think threads like this are important OP because woman need to know that not everyone feels the need to Botox. That not everyone thinks it looks good. It's becoming the norm for 20 year olds to inject into their faces as a 'preventative' measure. Nonsense! Beautiful natural faces are being stretched and paralysed, tweaked and puffed. It's ludicrous and unless we turn the narrative around it's going to get worse. 8 & 9 year olds are buying expensive skincare for goodness sake and damaging their beautiful skin. 🙈

Don’t assume everything is due to cosmetics. I’ve been accused of this but I have a mild form of muscular dystrophy, can’t move my facial muscles very well and have had some shitty comments in this vein.

If you “Never see any naturally beautiful young women on TV these days” you need to widen your tv viewing choices because I see lots.

I’m no fan of the Botox, lip filers etc fake look either but yabu to think that all women on tv look like that.

But you've turned this in to personally insulting the OP! This isn't about the looks people were both with! This is about women paying so called aestheticians to deform their faces! And all you can focus on is tearing apart the looks of a woman you've never met was born with?

The pillow face. They are like clones. Usually black dyed hair and eyelashes that weigh about a stone on each eye.
Not forgetting the huge arse and tiny waist in gym gear 🤣

You're welcome 😘

Omg yes!!! I have recently watched a film with male actors completely unwatchable due to whatever the hell they did to their faces. Definitely not just women.

Well lambasting is criticising - are you not criticising then?

So let us see the face of perfection.

It's not about perfection, though, is it? It's about young women having the topography of their faces changed in a similar way to all the others, eliminating the variety and individuality that gives people charm and/or character.

OP's right about limited facial expressions, too. Our faces are a huge medium of non-verbal communication, and emotions (positive and negative) matter. Hordes of young women attempting to make themselves seem like matching dolls actually is concerning from a sociological point of view, and I am vaguely worried about the impacts this has on the individuals' self-perceptions.

I find it depressing that teenagers now feel they 'need' their faces changed! I'm not 100% against interventions - philosophically I am but, now I'm seriously old, I'd be tempted to have the kind of well-judged lifts & tucks some wealthy women do if I had their funds.

Not everything a woman does to herself is admirable.

Some people have had so much Botox,they do actually look awful and I bet they were beautiful before but insecurity made them waste money on Botox and plastic surgery.Flase eyelashes,huge Botox lips, overly pouty top lip,they look like scary dolls , awful.I think just a bit of make up is enough as it's not permanent.It saddens me to see so many men and women paying to look so weird. Sorry to offend people who have had these procedures but you are wasting your money.

Well yes.

And hopefully women will continue to speak out against the onslaught of pressure in our society today to have botox and fillers and cosmetic surgery.

Trying to normalise these procedures and trying to shout down women who speak out against them is doing women, and particularly young girls and young women, a total disservice.

'It’s a shame they don’t realise they are more beautiful in their natural state.'

Has it occurred to you that you are not the intended audience? I think you are making an assumption that these women do it to impress the likes of you, when they most likely do it for themselves.

I think this is the latest iteration of "what makes women beautiful" sold to us by the culture of celebrity, the pressure of the beauty industry and the pursuit of youthfulness (which has been around for forever, but this is the latest version).

But people are entirely permitted to make the choices that they wish and I'm not sure I feel brilliantly comfortable with lambasting people for personal decisions about their appearance. It's not harming anyone else after all.

I was in France recently and it struck me how few women had visible work done, not a trout pout in sight for days

Oh bore off 😴

I guess there is no thought of pleasing you when they look in the mirror..

I agree 100%. Natural looks better. Lips should not be messed with. I am just grateful that my daughter and son and their uni friends are not into this nonsense.