To say that women look bloody weird ….

As a PP said, maybe if people were more honest about it looking awful, it would put women off.

It makes me feel uncomfortable because I find it fascinating so I want to stare but I'm desperately trying not to and don't know where to look.

Also, hasn't it been proven that botox reduces empathy because people who can't move their faces properly can't mirror facial expressions?

75% of posters agree with you OP, despite the moaning.

I'd say what's probably got people's backs up is that you've made this all about women, and ignored all the older male celebrities who also look ridiculous.

Amen to that! It's so bizarre that some posters seem so extremely defensive of pumping shit into your face, lips, and body. Beggars belief really. I see very VERY few people who look better for all the procedures and fillers ... Many people look ridiculous! But oh nooooo, we can't critisize other women, because da sistahood! 🙄 Doesn't seem to apply when it comes to bashing and berating posters who have opinions they don't like!!!

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I don't think it's hateful and vile to try and point out that these young women are already lovely.

There must be huge pressure in the entertainment industry to have this work done, it looks awful, they all look identical anyway, and it's not without other risks.

It also puts pressure on other young women to have this work done, girls who cannot afford to go to reputable clinics and risk lifetime scarring or injury. It's just another way of making women feel they aren't good enough. I cannot think why you wouldn't want to condemn it.

Emma Stone, Margot Robbie, Blake Lively, Jennifer Lawrence and others have all had several procedures. What we think of as their 'natural look' has actually been helped by skillful cosmetic work since the early days of their career.

I think as people age it’s where it starts to look odd or perhaps the celebs go overboard. All the above celebs have obvious tweaks and some are started to look a bit too done. I agree Vanessa Kirby and Emily Blunt have gone too far.

Is it always slagging off/being sly or making a fair observation? I've had no work done either and everyone is free to do what they want, goes without saying. But I feel sadness when I see the likes of Jordan, who was once a really naturally pretty lady to what she keeps doing to herself now. Is she happier for it? I don't know because she keeps putting herself through it over and over again and as a woman I just want to give her a bloody big hug and say she's fab as she is.

You've falsified what this is about, it's about asking why people pay unscrupulous aestheticians to completely fuck up their faces.

I agree. Vogue was naturally pretty, and it's easy to see how and why she was a model.

She has had loads done, and it's not done her any favours. She looked way better before.

I think cosmetic surgery is like make up. You only really notice it when it's overdone.

While there are a lot of puffy faced, trout pout types, a lot of actresses in Hollywood get excellent subtle work done. You don't notice the work, you just see that they look good. I'm not only talking 'older' actresses either. Emma Stone, Margot Robbie, Blake Lively, Jennifer Lawrence and others have all had several procedures. What we think of as their 'natural look' has actually been helped by skillful cosmetic work since the early days of their career.

The trouble is it doesn't take much for 'excellent subtle work' to turn into 'way too much'. So many actresses are just one procedure away from overdone. Vanessa Kirby is one who went from having a lovely unique face with some subtle 'refinements' to looking harsh and not at all like herself. Emily Blunt is another. I guess when money is no object and you're immersed in a superficial culture, it can be hard to know when to draw the line.

You know it's possible not to read something that you find distressing or annoying? Everyone judges one another, all the time, on everything. You just judged the OP on her thread and other people on their comments. It's the normal human condition to judge, we have always done it, and always will. It's an evolutionary thing, we notice weird looking people to keep us safe. They stand out, because they are not normal looking.

If OP was walking up to the woman and saying "You look like a freak" that would not be ok. If she was gossiping and titttering behind her back at work, that would not be ok.

But women are allowed to comment on things online and we will keep doing that. Hopefully a pornbot faced young woman will see the comments and think twice about making herself look weird.

More likely she will never see them and keep messing her face up to her heart's content.

Either way, no harm done.

I've seen one recently where they've clearly gone too far and he looks like he's on estrogen or something (not trans, just feminised face). I don't think that was intentional - they just smoothed him too much.

There's comedy sketches about this wider topic on Instagram, like a guy playing a woman with massive fish lips going 'Oh, I am but a milkmaid'. 😆

All the uber aggressive women on here need to calm down! This isn't about slating the looks that people were born with! It's the women paying crooked so called aestheticians to give them big platypus lip! So many women and men are walking around looking like they've had a massive allergic reaction to something! Big swollen solid faces and piggy eyes because they have had so much filler packed in! It's not natural looking to have filler put in between your top lip and your septum! These people are paying unscrupulous people to deform.their faces!.

I don't get the vicious defence of it, look.at the years of suffering and infection that Pete Burns went through! He had to drink through a straw all the time and it probably put a toll on him that lead to his premature death.

This isn't about the looks people were born with

Exactly. It's about getting rid of the looks they were born with.

I'm confident they weren't all tragic mingers before they had themselves puffed & paralysed.

When the fashion changes, those who are young will have enough skin elasticity to regain the looks they were born with. Older pillow-faces will look like collapsed balloons ... so they'll opt for surgical nips & tucks. 💲💲 Ka-ching!

You have to be kidding! She's had so much work done.

And they just seem to miss the obvious point that they are judging women on their appearance in a way that is so reductive and feeds the compulsion to use aesthetic treatments.

All the tedious comments about “weren’t they so naturally beautiful before” zzzzzz.

I've noticed more & more how many young influencers have faces that don't move very much.

They'll be presenting something and saying 'And here I am, standing at the site of a historical event. I've dreamt of always coming here and I was horrified when I thought I'd be so I'll I couldn't come'.....something like that, and their face will be 😐😐😐 the whole time - no matter if they're talking about something joyful or sad, it's the same, and the only part that moves a bit is the eyes maybe.

It's strange and robot -, and makes me wonder about the long-term effects this will have on a babies and their ability to read emotions in faces.

I mean, it's just a fact. They do look weird, through choice. It would be a bit off if they couldn't help looking like that, but we absolutely have the right to comment on something that looks weird that has been chosen specifically by the person so they can look weird.

If I walk through the mall wearing a stuffed animal strapped to my head, I expect people to notice it and comment. If you get your face frozen into a pornbot appearance on purpose, you can expect the same. It's odd, it stands out, it's not normal and it's a fad for attention.

They want attention, and they're getting attention. What they can't do is run the narrative of the type of attention they get.

I am not going to put any woman down for how she looks…

I agree @GoingbackwardsForwards In a couple of decades, we'll look back at this time, and think 'what were these people thinking?!'

On Made In Chelsea the other day a male (Fred) recieved gasps of shock when he demonstrated that his forehead moved when he raised his eyebrows. The other men (Ollie and Gareth) were like waxwork mannequins.

I do judge people who are scared of looking their age but thats not exclusively women.

so women complain how society makes them turn their face into plastic or they will look older, I dont know anyone who genuinely thinks the plastic look does in fact look good on anyone, so instead of people being fake nice maybe if people were more honest maybe kess women would fall into the trap of desperately trying to make themselves look younger so they can get and keep a man, and if people say they do it for themselves and not for a man, how on earth did you come up with the idea in the first place that looking like a barbie doll was an attractive thing?

yes when others do it they call the men shallow and only want women for looks yet think the fake everything looks amazing

Yet another three-word username of recent vintage being disobliging about women/relationships/attitudes.

I was in a queue at the airport this morning and noticed a lot of women with quite obvious lip fillers / flips, just makes them all have a fairly similar look. They like it, their faces, nothing to do with me. But they just looked very similar!
same with big lash extensions, it’s all very popular.
I cba, not good with needles or maintaining a look of any kind and think you need to keep it up (fillers) otherwise your skin will just end up baggy. Seems expensive to me!
Not slagging anyone off, I’ve not said anything rude and didn’t say it out loud. It’s just an observation while people watching in a long and boring queue.

The homogeneous look that’s today’s go-to for so many women is depressing, frankly. Being comfortable in your own skin is an art.

mind you, I think so much, culturally speaking, is geared towards the lowest common denominator in the west. Film/cinema and music especially. So much utter dirge pumped out for the masses. Banality and mediocrity sells, apparently, and enough of us never demand anything better for massive faceless corporations to thrive on our low standards.