To say that women look bloody weird ….

Agree!

It’s only the bitterly insecure and unhappy people who feel the need to comment on other people’s appearances.

(They’ll try and disguise it as “oh I’m only concerned for the younger generation who are influenced to get treatments” but they don’t give a shit. They bash other women and belittle them to feel a bit better about their pathetic selves).

YANBU, they look horrific (and if they don't that means the work is good enough quality for us to not notice).

Botoxed women always get this weird wrinkly nose look where all their remaining facial expressions come through their noses. They also typical have low-set, frozen eyebrows that make them look old and manly. They have shiny foreheads.

Lip filler never, ever looks good or natural. Cheek filler makes their whole face look doughy, and their eyes look piggy.

I'm all for GOOD quality work (as women, especially in the public eye, are persecuted for aging naturally) but botox and filler always looks like a shitty cheap fix for people who are too poor or not brave enough for the proper surgical treatments or fat transfers.

I'm pretty sick to death of being unable to lipread, myself.

Yes I agree. Sure, they can do what they want with their face, but I can still think they look weird and ridiculous 🤷🏼‍♀️

@GoingbackwardsForwards

I completely agree with you.

The thing is - it does. And there is a question here about why they feel compelled to do this. It shouldn’t be about bashing other women.

I really don’t care what people do to their faces. And some plastic surgery looks amazing. If it makes people feel better- great.

but there is a really homogenized idea of beauty that people are going for.

although I’m fighting a battle with ageing - I do wonder why I’ve been conditioned to fear a natural process. And I hate to admit, but being attractive is important to me.

I also think it’s really sad to see young women doing Botox, fearing wrinkles etc when they look stunning now - without any work done!

I wouldn't say it's the norm on TV but the look you describe is really popular with reality TV stars. The bigger the lips the lower the intellect and self esteem as far as I can see. I think they look ridiculous but the usually act and sound ridiculous to me too so I don't give them much thought. Some very young looking wealthy stars have had high quality work done that doesn't look bad at all, the only proof it that they look unnaturally younger.

Sorry wrong thread.!!

Being a grown up and having emotional regulation involves watching other adults make lifestyle choices that differ to yours without crashing out.

The "look" isn't particularly my cup of tea, but there have been plenty of non-"natural" aesthetics people have gone for over time; white powder faces, shaving hair to create a faux "high forehead", facial tattoos, eyebrows plucked off and drawn back higher, totally flat chests on women, devices to make skulls different shapes, bound feet, the "fox eye-lift"... People will always follow trends. Botox and filler seem quite tame really, compared to how damaging or permanent some of the other ones have been.

The my face/my body culture has gone mad. How can anyone support disfiguring themselves just for cosmetic/vanity reasons?

I also think it’s a symptom of selfie culture. People see what they look like in a mirror or a photo, they don’t tend to see themselves animated. What looks great in a still photo can look very different in motion.

I also think a lot of younger people may regret the Turkey teeth when they get a little bit older, and can no longer afford to maintain them.

Should be made a criminal offence for the disfigurement some of these 'surgeons' inflict on their gullible patients.

Why this unkindness? Totally unnecessary. And I say this being thin-lipped and having wrinkles.

To add… I think the trend is going towards having MORE work done rather than looking natural and I think that’s a real shame. One of the contestants on MAFS had her cheeks filled along with the normal lips and forehead and it aged her massively as well as looking really disconcerting. I think it’s important to speak out because women need to understand there are lots of people (men and women) who believe that natural is best and perhaps won’t opt for these unnatural procedures to smooth out the face at the expense of looking normal and natural.

I hear you OP and there will be a time when we look back and laugh at this disfiguring fashion era. Those that can afford it will just keep on pumping themselves full of fillers etc until they're too old to care and no one will recognise them anyway. Others, well, will probably look a bit ridiculous with sagging jowls and puffy lips. But hey ho, each to their own.

I agree op. I’m no oil painting, I was a natural beauty when young and haven’t aged as well as I might due to long term ill health and medication etc but I accept that anything else is more time, effort and money than I’m willing or able to spend on my appearance.
i think it’s incredibly sad that society, the media, the makers of these ingredients, beauticians, cosmetic dentist etc are promoting this stuff and perpetuating the idea that the only way to look good is to spend a hell of a lot of money on things that completely change how your face works, how you speak, etc.
people are defensive and angry when it’s pointed out how ever so slightly off key it is, how dystopian it is, how it’s feeding into people’s insecurities and making them spend so much money to give themselves odd worm like wrinkles down their forehead when they smile, like a cyborg or strangely turned up at the side nostrils, or shiny tight skin or teeth veneers that make it hard to speak or migrating filter giving odd double lip outline etc
yes granted, some women look amazing but often not for long unless they have the best practitioner.
my local therapist is stunningly beautiful but it also looks ‘off’
all these angry responses here are not accepting the bigger picture being ‘WE ARE BEING SUBTLY BRAINWASHED INTO NOT LOVING OURSELVES UNLESS WE KEEP LINING SOMEONE ELSES POCKETS WITH MONEY TO KEEP INJECTING IS WITH TOXINS OR OUR OWN BLOOD OR HAVING WEIRD CREEPYTHREADS UNDER OUR SKIN ETC.
i really worry where it will end and I pray it dies a death soon and that our naturally beautiful young people can be a allowed to shine and our beautiful older people can learn to love and embrace the changes,
give yourselves a break and work towards self love not hating your true self in the mirror.
id hate my stunning daughter to want to look generic and slightly Simpson/y

Let them all look how they want. But I do think everything has a cycle. My teenage girls and their friends find tattoos and all this botox hilarious. It will all come and go in cycles. None of it matters.

I think it's a shame when anyone pumps shite into their faces/bodies no matter what their age or sex.

But now I've mentioned the men (particularly actors) you might notice them more.

It's both weird and sad.

Your response here is abit overwrought. It's not as simple as woman like what they like so leave them alone. The urge or need for a 27 yr old to inject their cheeks isn't just a matter of preference like nail vinyls. It's a serious and risky surgery that costs lots of money and has health consequences. It actually tells you more about the pressure and insecurity that that women feels than a simple preference. It's a phenomenon that is hard to ignore and shouldn't be. What does it say about women's sense of themselves if the need to beautify themselves at such cost is gaining traction? Aren't we supposed to o be moving past this now? I worry for my sister hood that they discount their own natural faces so much and who is it really for? Who are they doing it for? For themselves? To keep up with other women? For men? For society ?

It’s easy to say that it’s no one else’s business, but when it becomes the norm it does affect every woman because if you don’t do it, then you’ll appear different. It’s like the pubic hair removal trend. A lot of men now expect complete pubic hair removal as it’s been « normalised ».