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To say that women look bloody weird ….

515 replies

GoingbackwardsForwards · 20/11/2025 22:00

.. when the only part of their face that moves is their mouth and eyes.

And don’t get me started on the massive fish lips.

Never see any naturally beautiful young women on TV these days. Such a shame

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Jewel52 · 21/11/2025 00:29

GoingbackwardsForwards · 20/11/2025 23:52

Do I get a prize?

No prize but you’ve definitely validated the childish part.

Maggiethecat · 21/11/2025 00:28

GoingbackwardsForwards · 21/11/2025 00:11

Don’t you think that women whose faces are so frozen that they can only move their eyes and their mouths do look bloody weird then?

Whereas I am concerned about the potential harm that women, especially young women, are doing to themselves I do find that your later posts have taken on an unpleasant and goady tone.
Some posters have managed to express the concern, about societal pressures and unscrupulous practitioners helping to drive the uptake of procedures, without denigrating these women.

UnintentionalArcher · 21/11/2025 00:28

Twinkyinthecity · 20/11/2025 22:18

I suppose it’s more do unto others as you’d have them do to you. You’re happy and comfortable judging others’ appearances. So as you’d understand - you’ll be happy to let others judge yours. So let us see the face of perfection..

My take isn’t that the OP thinks of themselves as an example of perfection. I think the point that @GoingbackwardsForwards was making was that we live in a society where there is significant pressure to look a certain way and the normalisation of procedures like Botox etc is worrying and damaging. Asking to see the poster’s face and suggesting that they themselves are unlikely perfect only reinforces the idea that women’s primary value lies in how they look. It also means a missed opportunity to have meaningful discussion about the trends we’re seeing in cosmetic procedures, particularly non-invasive ones.

Women are allowed to comment on the effects of plastic surgery, which often look unusual at best, with concern and even horror at the norms this promotes. This can be done without unpleasantness towards individual women while being an important observation about culture and society.

GoingbackwardsForwards · 21/11/2025 00:26

CherrieTomaties · 21/11/2025 00:24

Where did I say you used ‘fish lips’ personally?

I’m referring to the OP. I’ll happily bash her personality for describing women as “bloody weird” looking with “fish lips” which she said in the original post. Using derogatory language about other people’s looks absolutely screams insecurity to me.

I get the message that the OP is trying to convey, but to use insults absolutely loses her any credibility for a normal discussion. She started a thread to goad, no questions about it.

I’m sorry you have taken it so personally @CherrieTomaties. Are you feeling insecure about the extensive work you have had done, I wonder?

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bottledboot · 21/11/2025 00:26

I never said you did.

How would you prefer the OP to describe people with too much filler etc? I think some people do look weird, can we not acknowledge that?

PollyBell · 21/11/2025 00:26

CherrieTomaties · 21/11/2025 00:00

I’m 31, and have recently noticed my under eyes becoming a bit more “tired looking”, makeup doesn’t sit as nicely and looks a bit cakey as powder/concealer sits in my fine lines. I get under eye skin boosters to help with that, thus giving me plumper and more hydrated under eyes so my makeup now looks a dream.

I also get masseter Botox (to help with my bruxism/jaw grinding at night) it also slims down my face, which is amazing because I struggle with my weight fluctuating due to PCOS. Having a slimmer face makes me feel better about myself.

I’ve had dermal fillers in my jaw and chin, as I have an overbite which gives me a receding jawline. With the filler, it’s added some definition and given a nice shape to my face. I feel like I’m the best I’ve ever looked.

I also get my nails done, eyebrows tinted and waxed, wear lash extensions from time to time, wear fake tan (because I’m so pale people ask me if I’m ill or iron deficient when I’m not wearing it). Why? Because I want to. Because it’s no one else’s business what I do with my appearance. I have lots of friends, a large family and partner who love me. None of the people in my life would refer to me as “fake”.

So it is no one else's business that you fake your looks so you look a certain way you have decided for other people to see you as? so if it is no else's business why on earth do it? unless you stand in front a mirror all day staring at yourself the whole thing is for other people

CherrieTomaties · 21/11/2025 00:24

bottledboot · 21/11/2025 00:11

I haven’t used fish lips personally. You labelled people insecure etc for having an opinion on why young people feel pressure to inject themselves, go under the knife etc. It’s ok to discuss it.

Where did I say you used ‘fish lips’ personally?

I’m referring to the OP. I’ll happily bash her personality for describing women as “bloody weird” looking with “fish lips” which she said in the original post. Using derogatory language about other people’s looks absolutely screams insecurity to me.

I get the message that the OP is trying to convey, but to use insults absolutely loses her any credibility for a normal discussion. She started a thread to goad, no questions about it.

bottledboot · 21/11/2025 00:22

@OneWiseAmberOP I didn’t see anything disgusting. Fish lips may not be the nicest term but we all know what is means, not everyone with lip filler goes for that look.

I think it’s far more disgusting younger people are being put under this pressure, it’s expensive & potentially dangerous.

Jewel52 · 21/11/2025 00:17

Lovelyview · 21/11/2025 00:08

A lot of people are genuinely baffled about why someone would do this to their face. That's all.

But it’s not “someone”. Is it? This op has gone after women specifically. Women judging each other again. She’s interested in evaluating the attractiveness of other women on tv and being comforted that they’re no threat because they’re “weird” and artificial.

Insecurity.

OneWiseAmberOP · 21/11/2025 00:17

bottledboot · 21/11/2025 00:11

I haven’t used fish lips personally. You labelled people insecure etc for having an opinion on why young people feel pressure to inject themselves, go under the knife etc. It’s ok to discuss it.

There are ways of discussing it without being nasty. I agree with you actually, but the way OP thought she was being original and funny making fun of young women who feel pressured into undergoing cosmetic procedures is disgusting tbh

OneWiseAmberOP · 21/11/2025 00:15

GoingbackwardsForwards · 20/11/2025 22:06

Oh, the irony

I agree with that poster. What is ironic exactly? Your OP is nasty tbh

bottledboot · 21/11/2025 00:12

CherrieTomaties · 21/11/2025 00:11

Well if I’m being honest I think most threads are bizarre.

and yet here you are reading & contributing to them….

Lovelyview · 21/11/2025 00:12

hehehesorry · 21/11/2025 00:09

I don't think women are more beautiful in their nature state, unless they get botched then yes. Women in their 20s can look a bit strange with tweaks(again, their choice though) but older women definitely look better when they have work done - mainly forehead botox, chemical peels and eyelids. Women without work done can still be attractive but women with work done well just look better.

This is so frustrating. What is 'better'? What are people seeing when they look at other people's faces? Why is a smooth, immobile face 'better' than one which shows personality, laughter, character. What is wrong with lines?

bottledboot · 21/11/2025 00:11

CherrieTomaties · 21/11/2025 00:05

Bashed their “mental health”. Deary me 😂

I’ll happily bash anyone who refers to other women as “bloody weird” looking and calling them “fish lips” it’s derogatory and completely shows what kind of horrible person they are.

I haven’t used fish lips personally. You labelled people insecure etc for having an opinion on why young people feel pressure to inject themselves, go under the knife etc. It’s ok to discuss it.

CherrieTomaties · 21/11/2025 00:11

bottledboot · 21/11/2025 00:09

How is it anymore bizarre vs all the other threads on MNs?

Well if I’m being honest I think most threads are bizarre.

GoingbackwardsForwards · 21/11/2025 00:11

CherrieTomaties · 21/11/2025 00:06

It’s not hit a nerve at all, I’m just baffled as to what made you come online tonight and start a thread by immediately referring to women as “bloody weird looking” with “fish lips”. It’s completely bizzare.

Don’t you think that women whose faces are so frozen that they can only move their eyes and their mouths do look bloody weird then?

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CherrieTomaties · 21/11/2025 00:11

Lovelyview · 21/11/2025 00:08

A lot of people are genuinely baffled about why someone would do this to their face. That's all.

And that’s absolutely fine to think that, but to use derogatory and insulting remarks is a bit childish and bitter, that’s all.

bottledboot · 21/11/2025 00:09

CherrieTomaties · 21/11/2025 00:06

It’s not hit a nerve at all, I’m just baffled as to what made you come online tonight and start a thread by immediately referring to women as “bloody weird looking” with “fish lips”. It’s completely bizzare.

How is it anymore bizarre vs all the other threads on MNs?

Jewel52 · 21/11/2025 00:09

5128gap · 20/11/2025 23:31

You think its a shame when a woman doesn't look as beautiful as she could?
Interesting. Because that's exactly the thinking that drives the cosmetic industry.
You're part of the problem.

Thank you, my thoughts exactly.

Just stop finding ways to go after other women and focus on actual stuff that’s detrimental to all our lives.

hehehesorry · 21/11/2025 00:09

GoingbackwardsForwards · 20/11/2025 22:03

Just seen Vogue Williams on IACGMOOH but seems to be a common thing with celebrities. It’s a shame they don’t realise they are more beautiful in their natural state.

I don't think women are more beautiful in their nature state, unless they get botched then yes. Women in their 20s can look a bit strange with tweaks(again, their choice though) but older women definitely look better when they have work done - mainly forehead botox, chemical peels and eyelids. Women without work done can still be attractive but women with work done well just look better.

GoingbackwardsForwards · 21/11/2025 00:08

Fevre · 21/11/2025 00:06

Oh right, okay. You write like a a certain type of man - the type that don't like women very much - that have been posting similar threads in recent weeks.

Anyway, there we go. Enjoy your thread.

I can’t answer for any of those other posters but you are wrong in my case so could possibly be wrong about those too.

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bottledboot · 21/11/2025 00:08

Because it’s no one else’s business what I do with my appearance.

But yet you think it is your business how others think . At least be consistent!

Lovelyview · 21/11/2025 00:08

CherrieTomaties · 21/11/2025 00:06

It’s not hit a nerve at all, I’m just baffled as to what made you come online tonight and start a thread by immediately referring to women as “bloody weird looking” with “fish lips”. It’s completely bizzare.

A lot of people are genuinely baffled about why someone would do this to their face. That's all.

NormasArse · 21/11/2025 00:07

JudgeBread · 20/11/2025 22:03

Oh yay, this thread again. Let's all have a great time bashing other women for doing things to their own face that don't impact us in any way! Woo!

It will impact them though- down the line.

GripGetter · 21/11/2025 00:06

CheezePleeze · 20/11/2025 22:07

YANBU

But some men are catching up.

If you've ever watched Graham Norton or Johnathan Ross lately, some of the male actors are positively dribbling with facial paralysis.

Yes, and Omid Scobie.