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To say that women look bloody weird ….

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GoingbackwardsForwards · 20/11/2025 22:00

.. when the only part of their face that moves is their mouth and eyes.

And don’t get me started on the massive fish lips.

Never see any naturally beautiful young women on TV these days. Such a shame

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OwlBeThere · 21/11/2025 02:55

Justacigarette · 21/11/2025 00:30

Can I ask why you say “mind your business” rather than “mind your own business”. I had never heard “mind your business” until recently and thought it was just an Americanism

I don’t know, That’s what we say where I live. Always has been at least since I was a child. Could be because in Welsh we would say it that way?

thankgoditssaturday · 21/11/2025 02:45

I agree. There’s some weird psychological body dysmorphia that’s going on that they think that they look amazing whereas all I see is puffiness and a mask like appearance. It’s all very odd tbh.

MsSmartShoes · 21/11/2025 02:43

JudgeBread · 20/11/2025 22:03

Oh yay, this thread again. Let's all have a great time bashing other women for doing things to their own face that don't impact us in any way! Woo!

In this case I think that we should highlight how unnatural this looks. It’s pushed by capitalism creating insecurities about normal faces for profit.

raspberryberet2020 · 21/11/2025 02:40

CheezePleeze · 21/11/2025 01:43

Why wouldn’t they refer to your fake looks as fake? 😳

They surely must look back on photos of the natural you before all the fake stuff and think OMG?

Yup. If you look fake and weird, people will notice, some will comment. Them's the breaks.

raspberryberet2020 · 21/11/2025 02:39

Jewel52 · 21/11/2025 00:59

Ok so how would I know that things were annoying if I didn’t read them in the first place!????

Your response is fixated on judgement and that we are judging all the time and I am naive to think otherwise.

I don’t have an issue with judgment and as you say, I am judging her. My issue is that she had singled women out using that misogynistic yardstick of looks. Why are men judged on behaviours and women on appearance, that’s the important part of this.

As others have said on here, people have played with their appearance for hundreds of years.

If you don’t want to look at Botoxed faces then look away.

Nope, my perfectly rational response fixated on nothing, though you are fixated on a standard, uncontroversial conversation.

Yep, you are defnitively naive to think people don't judge all the time about everything.

There's nothing remotely misogynistic about pointing out if a woman looks like pornbot space alien, if I see a man who looks like a pornbot space alien (rare but it does happen) I will happily comment on that too.

Perfectly happy to look at pornbot space alien faces and comment on them, they're freakily interesting, so I will just keep doing that.

askmenow · 21/11/2025 02:23

When I look at those alien faces, I see insecurity. Their neediness is so sad.

Granted if they’re in the public eye, their livelihood may depend on smoothing every facial line.

somethingbeginningwithb · 21/11/2025 01:49

Why not let every woman do what makes her feel great?

I love Botox, polynucleotides, and HIFU facelifts - when I look in the mirror, I feel like the best version of myself - not fake or frozen, but refreshed and radiant.

Aesthetics, when done well, enhance natural beauty, rather than distort it.

CheezePleeze · 21/11/2025 01:43

CherrieTomaties · 21/11/2025 00:00

I’m 31, and have recently noticed my under eyes becoming a bit more “tired looking”, makeup doesn’t sit as nicely and looks a bit cakey as powder/concealer sits in my fine lines. I get under eye skin boosters to help with that, thus giving me plumper and more hydrated under eyes so my makeup now looks a dream.

I also get masseter Botox (to help with my bruxism/jaw grinding at night) it also slims down my face, which is amazing because I struggle with my weight fluctuating due to PCOS. Having a slimmer face makes me feel better about myself.

I’ve had dermal fillers in my jaw and chin, as I have an overbite which gives me a receding jawline. With the filler, it’s added some definition and given a nice shape to my face. I feel like I’m the best I’ve ever looked.

I also get my nails done, eyebrows tinted and waxed, wear lash extensions from time to time, wear fake tan (because I’m so pale people ask me if I’m ill or iron deficient when I’m not wearing it). Why? Because I want to. Because it’s no one else’s business what I do with my appearance. I have lots of friends, a large family and partner who love me. None of the people in my life would refer to me as “fake”.

Why wouldn’t they refer to your fake looks as fake? 😳

They surely must look back on photos of the natural you before all the fake stuff and think OMG?

hehehesorry · 21/11/2025 01:28

Lovelyview · 21/11/2025 00:12

This is so frustrating. What is 'better'? What are people seeing when they look at other people's faces? Why is a smooth, immobile face 'better' than one which shows personality, laughter, character. What is wrong with lines?

There's nothing wrong with lines, I was using better in terms of more attractive which is true to me. Personally I find laugh lines endearing and would never get nasolabial filler but forehead lines and 11s make people look cross. Men too, if that matters. For me it's like getting braces. I find teeth quirks attractive on other people but realise that is a niche so I like to have straight teeth, just like I would like smooth skin, a smooth forehead (botox won't entirely freeze your forehead, it depends on the units you get) and a nice fresh appearance.

ADogAndHisTed · 21/11/2025 01:04

It’s not a look I would like for me and I do hate that girls and women feel some pressure to have these things done, but their body their choice and all that.

PyongyangKipperbang · 21/11/2025 01:02

bottledboot · 20/11/2025 22:41

I think it’s ok to comment on why society puts this pressure on women & discussing that doesn’t automatically mean you are slagging off other women. Do posters think it shouldn’t be commented on?

The ones that bought into it really do as it makes them face the fact that not everyone sees their choices in a positive light, so they seek to shut down the discussion.

CherrieTomaties · 21/11/2025 01:01

Maggiethecat · 21/11/2025 00:40

Genuine question @CherrieTomaties - you are very young and I wonder if you are ever concerned that you’ll increasingly want more and more done?
I’ve lines in my face that I sometimes think would be so much better filled in and erased but my fear is that it would lead me down a rabbit hole! I’m also happy that my face can animate and would hate to lose that.
I have a casual friend that I suspected had work done years ago but it’s progressed over time until I barely recognise her now but can understand how this can happen.

Personally I don’t think I’ll have anything else done in the near future. I keep up with polynucleotides under my eyes every 6ish months but apart from that I’m content with how I look.

I can see how others get addicted to getting more and more filler and treatments over time as well.

Maggiethecat · 21/11/2025 00:59

GoingbackwardsForwards · 21/11/2025 00:47

Just noticed that @CherrieTomaties makes a habit of being spiteful and obnoxious on other threads too.

And you were talking about irony a few posts up?

Jewel52 · 21/11/2025 00:59

raspberryberet2020 · 20/11/2025 22:49

You know it's possible not to read something that you find distressing or annoying? Everyone judges one another, all the time, on everything. You just judged the OP on her thread and other people on their comments. It's the normal human condition to judge, we have always done it, and always will. It's an evolutionary thing, we notice weird looking people to keep us safe. They stand out, because they are not normal looking.

If OP was walking up to the woman and saying "You look like a freak" that would not be ok. If she was gossiping and titttering behind her back at work, that would not be ok.

But women are allowed to comment on things online and we will keep doing that. Hopefully a pornbot faced young woman will see the comments and think twice about making herself look weird.

More likely she will never see them and keep messing her face up to her heart's content.

Either way, no harm done.

Ok so how would I know that things were annoying if I didn’t read them in the first place!????

Your response is fixated on judgement and that we are judging all the time and I am naive to think otherwise.

I don’t have an issue with judgment and as you say, I am judging her. My issue is that she had singled women out using that misogynistic yardstick of looks. Why are men judged on behaviours and women on appearance, that’s the important part of this.

As others have said on here, people have played with their appearance for hundreds of years.

If you don’t want to look at Botoxed faces then look away.

CalishataFolkart · 21/11/2025 00:56

GoingbackwardsForwards · 20/11/2025 23:06

I was fearing for my safety for a while there!
I haven’t noticed it so much with older male celebrities and I guess it seems more of a pity when young people feel the need to mess with their youthful beauty.

You haven’t noticed the appearance of the older men because you’re too busy focussing on the appearance of the younger women.

The Patriarchy thanks you for your service.

Salvadoridory · 21/11/2025 00:55

I have shit loads of work, I couldn't care less what anyone says. I used to be fat, old and miserable and now Im skinny and successful and look how I want. First impressions are important and dont underestimate how, like the judgy harlots on here, drab, bitter women get snap judged at work and by strangers in shops just as commonly. Can I have extra points for having had surgery as well as injections..I defy most people to have blepheroplasy or neck surgery under local 😅

Salvadoridory · 21/11/2025 00:50

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Indeed full of sense..hear hear! Why are women so nasty to other women? Isn't life hard enough already? 🤷

GoingbackwardsForwards · 21/11/2025 00:49

Tippexy · 21/11/2025 00:45

Which will, by the way, be entirely noticeable.

🤣🤣🤣 How very dare you!

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GoingbackwardsForwards · 21/11/2025 00:47

Just noticed that @CherrieTomaties makes a habit of being spiteful and obnoxious on other threads too.

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PinkPanther57 · 21/11/2025 00:46

Touty · 21/11/2025 00:32

She’s had a facelift recently

How do you know?

Tippexy · 21/11/2025 00:45

GoingbackwardsForwards · 21/11/2025 00:26

I’m sorry you have taken it so personally @CherrieTomaties. Are you feeling insecure about the extensive work you have had done, I wonder?

Which will, by the way, be entirely noticeable.

Maggiethecat · 21/11/2025 00:40

CherrieTomaties · 21/11/2025 00:00

I’m 31, and have recently noticed my under eyes becoming a bit more “tired looking”, makeup doesn’t sit as nicely and looks a bit cakey as powder/concealer sits in my fine lines. I get under eye skin boosters to help with that, thus giving me plumper and more hydrated under eyes so my makeup now looks a dream.

I also get masseter Botox (to help with my bruxism/jaw grinding at night) it also slims down my face, which is amazing because I struggle with my weight fluctuating due to PCOS. Having a slimmer face makes me feel better about myself.

I’ve had dermal fillers in my jaw and chin, as I have an overbite which gives me a receding jawline. With the filler, it’s added some definition and given a nice shape to my face. I feel like I’m the best I’ve ever looked.

I also get my nails done, eyebrows tinted and waxed, wear lash extensions from time to time, wear fake tan (because I’m so pale people ask me if I’m ill or iron deficient when I’m not wearing it). Why? Because I want to. Because it’s no one else’s business what I do with my appearance. I have lots of friends, a large family and partner who love me. None of the people in my life would refer to me as “fake”.

Genuine question @CherrieTomaties - you are very young and I wonder if you are ever concerned that you’ll increasingly want more and more done?
I’ve lines in my face that I sometimes think would be so much better filled in and erased but my fear is that it would lead me down a rabbit hole! I’m also happy that my face can animate and would hate to lose that.
I have a casual friend that I suspected had work done years ago but it’s progressed over time until I barely recognise her now but can understand how this can happen.

Touty · 21/11/2025 00:32

Butchyrestingface · 20/11/2025 22:10

I though a very natural appearing Victoria Beckham looked though not sounded bloody fantastic sitting on that sofa yowling away with Cruz the other day.

She’s had a facelift recently

Justacigarette · 21/11/2025 00:30

OwlBeThere · 20/11/2025 22:04

There are tons of non-botoxed women on tv. Yes there are some who do, but it’s their face. Mind your business,

Can I ask why you say “mind your business” rather than “mind your own business”. I had never heard “mind your business” until recently and thought it was just an Americanism

CherrieTomaties · 21/11/2025 00:30

GoingbackwardsForwards · 21/11/2025 00:26

I’m sorry you have taken it so personally @CherrieTomaties. Are you feeling insecure about the extensive work you have had done, I wonder?

Oh its really not extensive. You’re completely misguided if you think polynucleotides and masseter Botox (courtesy of the NHS) is “extensive work”.

No need to apologise though, it’s all good😘

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