To ask how you survive this cold as an office worker?

Does the physical gardening work warm you up?
I often think an outdoor job would be wholesome and fulfilling. And then.....today....no thanks.

I have low blood pressure, I’m always cold. I’m also a gardener 🥶

Today’s ensemble: ski base layer set, thick trousers, kneehigh football type socks, tshirt (work issued), two thick fleeces, thermal lined hat, boots with a thermal insole to stop cold draw. I’ve also swapped steel toecaps for composites.

Ive packed 3 travel mugs of tea and a hotwater bottle for the journey in my old pickup where the heating is dubious. I’ll refill at work for the drive home.

Focus on hands, feet and head.

It’s concerning that someone who works in the NHS and is trained in Safeguarding is calling out those saying it’s abusive as disgusting.

You are protecting him for whatever reason, possibly because he’s convinced you that he is right and only his opinions count, but this behaviour isn’t acceptable. It’s sad that you can’t see that.

Felt bad for you OP but now just think you’re attention seeking. Nobody is a hopeless and helpless surely.

The previous poster, who you were agreeing with, was arguing that it was SO cold as to explain all of the OP's ailments.

Her argument is that there is nothing of concern around the OP it is simply THAT cold.

It's not THAT cold.

It's cold, sure.

It's not SO cold as to explain being cold everywhere, all the time no matter what you do.

It's not SO cold that it explains the OP being up crying in the night because she can't get warm.

The poster you agreed with is wrong. And in agreeing with her, so were you.

How old are you, OP?

Do you have an active social life?

Are you in a relationship?

Is your mum with you?

As in, do you have friends you can talk to about all this?

You might just need to start wearing a load of clothes. I mean like double trousers, and double socks and warm boots. Thermals underneath and a scarf and a hat. Even indoors. Fingerless gloves are good too.

Are people really wearing double trousers, scarfs and hats and sitting at desks to work all day? I have never seen that. I have on occasion worn a pair of thick tights under trousers, but only for something like hiking up a mountain.

Hi OP,

I just read all your posts.

You said that you have lost 7 stone in 16 months. That might be a big part of why you are cold.

Body fat keeps people warm. If you have lost a lot of body fat then you will definitely feel the cold.

It's like penguins and sea lions. They have a lot of body fat so they can live in freezing conditions. If they went on mountjaro and lost a load of weight, they would almost immediately die of cold.

If you have a very sedentary job then that will make it worse as well because moving around makes people warm and sitting still makes people cold.

You might just need to start wearing a load of clothes. I mean like double trousers, and double socks and warm boots. Thermals underneath and a scarf and a hat. Even indoors. Fingerless gloves are good too.

I am slim and I need to wear a lot of thermals and double trousers to stay warm too.

Realistically, it may not be viable for you to live in the extremely cold conditions that you have at home, now that you don't have all that body fat to keep you warm. You may have to leave home and get a place of your own, where you can choose to turn the heating on.

Warm yourself up with a hairdryer. Instant warmth ❤️

Surely you just wear more clothes? I'm outside for 30-40 minutes at a time on current job and works for me.

The nhs waste money all the time….so I wouldn’t be a martyr with the expectation that any money saved on your heating will go to patients…,it will just be wasted on something else….I work for the nhs….I would be raising it with management and then senior management..,go right to the top if you get no where

Maybe try stopping the jabs and see if that sorts it!

Thermal leggings and vest - they are lightweight and comfortable - nothing too close fitting - you need air between your layers. Then on top of your day clothes, fleece, body warmer and woolly socks (must be wool!)
Go for a short brisk walk then when you come in you'll feel a lot warmer.

OK, you won’t hear a word against him nor about the ridiculous strictures you adhere to (what will he do if you DO boil a kettle? Chuck the water down the sink?)
If he’s all fine and dandy as far as you are concerned, there remains only DIY heating tricks for you to adopt.
Which everyone has been urging on you already, such as good quality thermals (eg M&S MAX heat thermal longsleeved top, which is downright miraculous) and a soft T shirt wrapped around your head so you resemble Van Eyck’s bridegroom.

Get a travel kettle for your bedroom, even an ‘electric lunchbox’ if heating food in the kitchen is too much. Both very low energy.

But recommending that you recognise abuse where it is happening is not ‘disgusting’. Clearly ‘abuse’ means one thing only to you, but you'd be surprised. People are seeking ways to assist you, but you have to admit there is a problem other than temperature for it to work.

Sude effect munjaro

Thermals, wristwarmers (ideally wool of some sort), wool cardigan/jumper

Uniqlo! Wool jumpers under £40 and they come is lots of lovely colours. I’ve just got some lovely brushed fabric work trousers from
there too.

I presume OP is earning money. She is living at home so her living expenses should be cheaper than someone running their own home.
Or maybe her peach of a father takes most of her salary in keep yet still doesn't allow her to boil a kettle, use a heated blanket or heat her living space.

Also, you'd only need to have the blanket on for half an hour or so before you get into bed. Even if you left it on low all night, you'd be struggling to use £15 of electricity in a month.

I was agreeing with

Cherrytree86 · Today 10:31

It IS that cold.

But let's not derail the thread.

No, I said it wasn't extreme or unusually cold for this time of year, but then I work in horticulture and used to being outside in all weathers, dressed appropriately - facebook memories for the last x years of dog walks in crisp conditions or even snow. Plenty of other posts on FB and Instagram all round the country comparing.

And if you look at my posts in this thread you will see that I have said that I think the OP's father is behaving unreasonably.

Another poster had said it is not cold ATM. But in some parts of the country it was below freezing this morning. This is a statement of fact and nothing to do with how the father is behaving.

I have also suggested she gets her iron levels checked.

Sorry, but I don't see what your point is.

I was merely agreeing with another poster that today has been unusually cold for this time of the year.

Do you live alone with your father @ColdToesandWarmHeart because if your Mum is also at home, how does she find the cold house?

Is she still under the same constraints as you- no heated blanket, mustn't boil a full kettle etc - but still has the luxury of long haul warm holidays in the winter?

It started off as a "I'm really cold at work" advice thread with people giving suggestions about warm winter wear, external heating methods etc, and due to op's replies, it does sound a lot more like she is in her early to mid-20s, living at home, she's claiming that her father is just very very tight (cheap) in so much that he would throw away an electric blanket that she would buy because he doesn't want her using the electricity, that he gets angry when she fills up a hot water bottle and boils the kettle for that reason (even though you can still reuse the same water inside a bottle you don't have to waste the water you just have to use the electricity or gas to heat it up).

So, if this isn't a come on, it does sound like she's normalized behavior that is not considered by the majority to be normal, and even though some of the responses here are a little on the harsh side, as in harshly honest, that's one of the things I like about MN... Trolls aside, some harsh honest truths given by outsiders can be quite eye-opening.

I really hope that paying her father extra money per month for electricity and her purchasing herself an electric blanket gives her comfort, but I really don't think that's going to solve the problem which is bigger than just being chilly...