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To think being a woman costs more?

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ClairN · 19/11/2025 13:28

DH and I have been having a debate on discretionary spending. AIBU to think being a woman is more expensive?

Bikini waxes, hairdressers, tights, lingerie, taxis after dark…

OP posts:
RubySquid · 19/11/2025 21:39

elliejjtiny · 19/11/2025 21:29

I am fairly low maintenance I think but I get through about 4 times the amount of (tesco own brand) shampoo and conditioner that dh does because I have a lot more hair. Also I spend about £30 a month on period stuff. My bras are mostly all ancient though. I've got one matching set from asda and the rest are maternity bras from mother care. I stopped breastfeeding over 9 years ago and mother care closed quite a while ago too.

Ouch have tampons and sanitary towels jumped up in price lots then? Been a few years since needed them. Used to manage on a couple of boxes of superdrug tampons at about 99p a pack

LoveMySushi · 19/11/2025 21:38

ClairN · 19/11/2025 13:31

Yes of course I do. But they’re fairly standard and not “fun money” I don’t think.

Definitely not fun money. DH and I both profit from it, so it comes out of our joint account.

NewCushions · 19/11/2025 21:35

elliejjtiny · 19/11/2025 21:29

I am fairly low maintenance I think but I get through about 4 times the amount of (tesco own brand) shampoo and conditioner that dh does because I have a lot more hair. Also I spend about £30 a month on period stuff. My bras are mostly all ancient though. I've got one matching set from asda and the rest are maternity bras from mother care. I stopped breastfeeding over 9 years ago and mother care closed quite a while ago too.

But according to posters on this thread, you should just cut your hair short, yourself, and you'd save? And buy a moon cup. Once off small cost and you're set for life....

elliejjtiny · 19/11/2025 21:29

I am fairly low maintenance I think but I get through about 4 times the amount of (tesco own brand) shampoo and conditioner that dh does because I have a lot more hair. Also I spend about £30 a month on period stuff. My bras are mostly all ancient though. I've got one matching set from asda and the rest are maternity bras from mother care. I stopped breastfeeding over 9 years ago and mother care closed quite a while ago too.

Notsurewhatisnormalanymore · 19/11/2025 20:55

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 19/11/2025 20:52

OK you feel superior all night 😘

You’re misreading me completely, I’m literally trying to be nice and say night. I don’t feel superior to you or anyone x

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 19/11/2025 20:52

Notsurewhatisnormalanymore · 19/11/2025 20:31

Okay, have a nice evening x

OK you feel superior all night 😘

SpanThatWorld · 19/11/2025 20:43

Portlypig · 19/11/2025 17:09

But even a fairly fuss free woman needs:
Day to day bras
A sports bra
Probably some kind of multiway bra to wear with vest tops, racerbacks, strapless etc - if only to get married in!
Normal pants
Either seam free or thong to wear under leggings/tight clothing
Tights
Socks

Men - a 10 pack of boxers

I am very fuss free.
3 x plain bra
1 x sports bra
Multipack of plain pants
Multipack of socks

My husband also has multipack pants and multipack socks.

The only difference is bras and I buy them in bulk. When one lot dies I buy 3 identical from M&S. Just bought 3 at £18 each which will.probably last a couple of years so less than £30 a year on bras.

I don't have to buy ties.

Brendathebear · 19/11/2025 20:34

Why do you feel you need to do these things OP? If YOU want to do them - then go ahead. They arent necessities.

I'm saddened to hear that you feel that you would be looked over for work promotion etc without looking a certain way. I have worked in a senior role for years - working with many very formidable driven women. I sat with 7 other women today in a conference. There are plenty of men in my industry, but for some reason it was just women on my table today. Only 2 of us had make up on. I was one of them but I was only wearing mascara, so not sure if that counts.

Im not sure if any them have regular bikini waxes.....

I'm smart and stylish but I dont do any of those things. I personally dislike fake or painted nails (this is a left over from a clinical background). My hair isnt dyed and a bit of immac sorts out a bikini line if Im wearing a bikini on holiday.

Come to think of it, we had a senior person speaking at the conference today, she was full grey hair (although smart) and no make up too.

I would never ever wear makeup/dye my hair on the say so of a man - even one I was married to. Why the fuck would I? I wouldnt ask a man to shave his testicles for my preference...! WTF!

Notsurewhatisnormalanymore · 19/11/2025 20:31

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 19/11/2025 20:26

OK but it is entirely relevant

Because women don't, as a whole unit or by law, HAVE to use taxis and men don't, as a whole or by law, not have to use taxis

So it's not a specific cost to either sex but one made by each individual based on their own feelings of risk assessment and risk avoidance because gender doesn't protect you at night

Okay, have a nice evening x

RubySquid · 19/11/2025 20:31

thelifeofgreece · 19/11/2025 19:43

I buy my socks from M&S and they always end up with holes. I walk normally, wear normal shoes and never wear socks when I’m at home. Not sure how people make them last??

John Lewis socks are much better. Can pick them up in waitrose

RubySquid · 19/11/2025 20:29

W0tnow · 19/11/2025 17:02

Umm, because I don’t have a cock and balls? Why would I buy underwear with a baggy bit at the front? There’s a reason they’re designed differently!

Razors not underwear lol

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 19/11/2025 20:26

Notsurewhatisnormalanymore · 19/11/2025 20:03

It doesn’t though. If anything it just makes it a more complicated topic. We don’t actually know (should read can’t prove) if woman need a taxi more than men do from a safety aspect because the statistics aren’t taking the precautions women are already taking into account. Anyway, I don’t want to bijack the thread discussing men and women’s vulnerabilities anymore. We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.

OK but it is entirely relevant

Because women don't, as a whole unit or by law, HAVE to use taxis and men don't, as a whole or by law, not have to use taxis

So it's not a specific cost to either sex but one made by each individual based on their own feelings of risk assessment and risk avoidance because gender doesn't protect you at night

BarbarasRhabarberba · 19/11/2025 20:23

Notsurewhatisnormalanymore · 19/11/2025 19:12

Is it optional if it affects your career progression though? I don’t know but I do appreciate what you’re saying and it definitely hits a nerve with me so you’re right there, I’m not trying to pretend it doesn’t. I have an internal monologue when doing my make up etc. I think it’s a complicated topic and I can certainly accept different views. I just am not a fan of the comments that are sneery about anyone that chooses to look any certain way or conform.

I will concede that how heavily those expectations are pushed in a work environment varies between industries. But still (and I’m not aiming this at you, just musing) if enough women pushed back, would that change? Like cabin crew as someone mentioned earlier - women pointing out how silly the high heels and makeup rules were led to a lot of airlines dropping those requirements and introducing trouser uniforms for women.

Personally I really don’t care how someone wants to look. If you (again, collective, not you personally) feel better and more yourself looking traditionally feminine and everything that entails with hair, nails and makeup, crack on. I certainly don’t think that’s anything to sneer at or inferior to non-conforming women. I think it’s always worth questioning though how and why our tastes and opinions form, and questioning whether all societal expectations are worth following or paying any attention to. And if you come to the conclusion that actually you don’t like having gel nails/getting Botox/scrubbing the house from top to bottom every time the MIL visits etc, just stop.

BoudiccaRuled · 19/11/2025 20:09

NovemberMorn · 19/11/2025 13:40

Some do. 😄

Some should.

Notsurewhatisnormalanymore · 19/11/2025 20:03

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 19/11/2025 19:54

Well it does

Because men take taxis too and OP was trying to say it was more expensive for women because of taxis

It doesn’t though. If anything it just makes it a more complicated topic. We don’t actually know (should read can’t prove) if woman need a taxi more than men do from a safety aspect because the statistics aren’t taking the precautions women are already taking into account. Anyway, I don’t want to bijack the thread discussing men and women’s vulnerabilities anymore. We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.

Holluschickie · 19/11/2025 19:56

This really is like the MN chicken.
So many women never get their hair cut! Or get their sons to do it/ shave their heads/ grow hair until they can sit on it/ weave baskets with their hair/ use the same body wash for hair, body and mopping the floor. 😄

I only get my hair cut every 3 months but that costs £50, which is cheap in London. DH pays £20 every 2 months maybe.

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 19/11/2025 19:56

thelifeofgreece · 19/11/2025 19:43

I buy my socks from M&S and they always end up with holes. I walk normally, wear normal shoes and never wear socks when I’m at home. Not sure how people make them last??

My work socks are worn one pair every day, always on my feet at work as well, and they're over 2 years old

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 19/11/2025 19:54

Notsurewhatisnormalanymore · 19/11/2025 19:43

That’s good then, doesn’t really help with the diacussion of whether it costs more to be a woman or not but 🤷🏻‍♀️

Well it does

Because men take taxis too and OP was trying to say it was more expensive for women because of taxis

PollyBell · 19/11/2025 19:48

Haordresses i go once every 2 years i n average thr rest i dont do, it is a choice no one is forced to get bikini waxes or buy lingerie

Or have spa days or buy tonnes of make up or the orange stuff they put on their skin and have weird things injected into themselves

Coffeeishot · 19/11/2025 19:46

thelifeofgreece · 19/11/2025 19:43

I buy my socks from M&S and they always end up with holes. I walk normally, wear normal shoes and never wear socks when I’m at home. Not sure how people make them last??

Drives me insane i just buy packs at the supermarket now .

Notsurewhatisnormalanymore · 19/11/2025 19:45

thelifeofgreece · 19/11/2025 19:43

I buy my socks from M&S and they always end up with holes. I walk normally, wear normal shoes and never wear socks when I’m at home. Not sure how people make them last??

You need advice from the women on here. They’ve had one pair their whole life and they use them on their feet, during menstruation, they double up as bedding during the winter months and they use them to shave their flaps 😂

thelifeofgreece · 19/11/2025 19:43

Coffeeishot · 19/11/2025 19:21

I am always buying socks mine never last a year .

I buy my socks from M&S and they always end up with holes. I walk normally, wear normal shoes and never wear socks when I’m at home. Not sure how people make them last??

Notsurewhatisnormalanymore · 19/11/2025 19:43

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 19/11/2025 19:13

Well that's good because I said BOTH are vulnerable

That’s good then, doesn’t really help with the diacussion of whether it costs more to be a woman or not but 🤷🏻‍♀️

GovernmentFundedSteak · 19/11/2025 19:28

Holluschickie · 19/11/2025 19:18

I really need to know how to make socks last 20 years. I lose so many!
I thought I was frugal but this thread puts me to shame.

I wear odd ones most of the time!

Coffeeishot · 19/11/2025 19:21

Holluschickie · 19/11/2025 19:18

I really need to know how to make socks last 20 years. I lose so many!
I thought I was frugal but this thread puts me to shame.

I am always buying socks mine never last a year .

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