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To have completely misunderstood the meaning of some sayings?

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KermitTheToad · 18/11/2025 20:53

I only found out today that the term Social Butterfly refers to someone who is outgoing and loves social events. I thought it meant you didn't like social events, as in you would fly away and avoid them. I also until recently thought that a Spendthrift is somebody who is frugal in their spending. I assumed that as thrifty meant not being wasteful, that Spendthrift meant being careful in what you spent.
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FlatErica · 19/11/2025 07:45

HyggeTygge · 18/11/2025 21:38

Also one of my favourites i read recently on here, where they thought a petard, as in "hoist by your own petard", was a sort of leotard and it was giving you a wedgie 😂

Hoist by your own peloton when you slip and whack your crotch on it!

Dontlletmedownbruce · 19/11/2025 07:42

Heavyeyelids · 19/11/2025 07:16

I don’t think this is right. I think it’s the opposite: the cottage looks small from the outside but that’s deceptive - it’s actually spacious. So deceptively small = larger than it first seems.

Otherwise there’s no deception.

I'm confused now about this... I think I understood it to be @Twattergy 's way. If the house is deceptively large it is larger than it seemed, ie it seems smaller from outside. So still a deception. I think its usually a positive thing if something is deceptively large and a negative if deceptively small. It seems then phrase is meaningless if people understand it differently, I'll always be overthinking this now.

HyggeTygge · 19/11/2025 07:40

verybighouseinthecountry · 18/11/2025 22:24

Since being in primary school I thought pontious meant arrogant/obnoxious and the Biblical Pontious Pilate was an arrogant man called Pilate. I was so shocked to discover in my early 20s, after using pontious as an adjective for years that it was his name. I think I was getting it confused with pretentious 😳

I love this one!

nomas · 19/11/2025 07:36

TheIncredibleBookEatingManchot · 18/11/2025 21:53

I thought the saying "when the going gets tough the tough get going" meant when things are hard the so-called tough scarper. Actually it means they spring into action.

And "a friend in need is a friend indeed" I thought was a kind of sarcastically saying when someone needs something from you they act like a really good friend. Really it means if someone's your friend in your hour of need they're a true friend.

Same here!

JKFan · 19/11/2025 07:36

Westly · 18/11/2025 21:32

In an English Literature degree exam, there was a question on the “status quo” being upset in King Lear. I thought the term meant a person of the highest status. Had done for years. So I answered the exam question on that basis. Wrote about it for an hour.

My wild misunderstanding pulled my whole exam mark down to 40, which was the pass mark. Luckily it was in my first year, so it didn’t count towards my degree. I was asked about that incongruous exam grade in many job interviews for many years where I had to disclose my full degree transcript. Nearly cost me a career. So embarrassing but very amusing.

I sympathise. Years ago I sat the Institute of Linguists diploma in German. One exam was about Germany itself. It could be on absolutely anything - politics, economy, culture, history etc. You had to be prepared for anything. From memory there were ten essay questions two to be answered in English and one in German. I was already struggling because my tutor had disappeared and I’d had to prepare solo. When I looked at the questions there were some I knew nothing about, so I had to answer one about the German hegemony. It was at that point that I realised my difficulty wasn’t just my level of German, but my level of English. Hegemony was a word I had come across every so often and just glided over without ever stopping to check what it meant. I’m fairly certain my level of English contributed to my failing that paper, which was annoying as I had a distinction in other papers. As I was only doing it for interest and couldn’t find anyone to teach me I gave up on trying again.

soupyspoon · 19/11/2025 07:36

Cyclistmumgrandma · 19/11/2025 06:58

No, the “in need” refers to you. A friend who is still your friend when you are in need is a good friend. It’s the opposite of a fair weather friend.

But if I am the friend in need, how can I also be the friend indeed, if the friend indeed is my friend who is being a good friend?

Surely a friend in need, has a friend indeed, if indeed, they have a friend?

soupyspoon · 19/11/2025 07:33

realsavagelike · 18/11/2025 23:29

Really?? I don't buy that. I will happily recant if I find such a word in a dictionary.

It wont be in the dictionary!!!

Its colloquial (not even sure if Ive got the meaning of that right now)

Mydadsbirthday · 19/11/2025 07:30

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 18/11/2025 21:48

You’re right about a ‘spendthrift’ being someone who’s frugal. Love that you thought that about a ‘social butterfly’. My friend’s son thought ‘peace and quiet’ was ‘a piece of quiet’.

Spendthrift doesn't mean that. It means the opposite!

Love "a piece of quiet"!

Petitchat · 19/11/2025 07:25

My ex MIL thought "french stick".was "french dick"

For years we didn't even realise because it sounds the same...

Heavyeyelids · 19/11/2025 07:19

TellingBone · 18/11/2025 23:08

Suspend belief vs suspend disbelief

If I'm watching a film I'm suspending disbelief aren't I? - I'm suspending my critical thinking [which tells me these things aren't true] in order to temporarily buy into and enjoy the fiction I'm being shown.

But I've always had a niggling thought that this could also be described as suspending belief. In one sense I'm temporarily suspending my beliefs, or my belief system, in order to enjoy the fiction.

Explained badly, but I hope you get what I mean. 😃

I’ve always had exactly this same thought and every time I use the phrase I have to stop and think hard to make sure I say it correctly. “Suspend belief” still makes a lot more sense to me.

Heavyeyelids · 19/11/2025 07:16

Twattergy · 18/11/2025 23:39

Deceptively large = larger than it first seemed. E.g this cottage is deceptively large...it's much more spacious than it looks from outside.

Deceptively small = smaller than you'd think. E.g. 'this handbag can hardly fit anything in it, it's deceptively small!'

I don’t think this is right. I think it’s the opposite: the cottage looks small from the outside but that’s deceptive - it’s actually spacious. So deceptively small = larger than it first seems.

Otherwise there’s no deception.

Ketryne · 19/11/2025 07:13

CurlyhairedAssassin · 18/11/2025 21:10

Heavy plant crossing. I was flummoxed by that one for years. Always thought of triffids when I was a kid. Knew it couldn't be that but it was years into adulthood before I knew for sure what it meant. (probably when Google was invented so I could look it up without embarrassing myself by asking an acutal human).

This made me smile. When I was growing up, any time my parents saw one of those signs while in the car they would shout ‘oh no! Triffids!’ And burst out laughing. They knew what it meant, but had the same visual image when they saw the sign and obviously made each other laugh. Now as an adult I can’t see one of those signs without thinking the same and also thinking of my late DM.

KimberleyClark · 19/11/2025 07:12

78e22387FFGH · 18/11/2025 21:44

A leotard giving you a wedgie 😂

It actually is another one from the Bible - when Queen Esther's cousin Mordecai had an enemy who made a huge stake to hang him on, and ended up being hung on it himself

A petard is actually a type of small bomb used in Elizabethan times to blow up walls and gates. “Hoist by his own petard” is from Hamlet. It means being blown up by a bomb you were trying to blow up something else with.

Titasaducksarse · 19/11/2025 07:00

maralagagirl · 19/11/2025 02:19

Hoist by your own petard is pretty common, particularly with comedians. It's from Hamlet.

Wow...and I did English Lit A level! A lot of my knowledge on words etc comes from my Mum who, as a librarian really loved books and words but not Shakespeare I realise!

SnappyOchre · 19/11/2025 07:00

Westly · 18/11/2025 22:19

I converted to Law. The big City firms all ask for transcripts.

Edited to add that it’s only requested for the first few years. For example for a training contract or newly qualified roles. It soon defers to just your overall degree grade.

Edited

I can vouch for this. I also have a low mark that that haunted me for years. Take heart though: at over a decade PQE no one even asks if I have a degree anymore.

Mothership4two · 19/11/2025 06:59

eeeeLad · 19/11/2025 06:28

Sorry if someone's already asked I don't want to lose my place in the thread while I finish reading, but why did he coin it a 'catch 22' do you know? Rather than any other random combination of words and numbers! I'd love to know if there's more to it than that. Am I being dumb though now 😄

Apparently he liked how it sounded - nothing deeper than that. He was originally going to go with Catch18 but there was another novel published the same year called Mila 18

Cyclistmumgrandma · 19/11/2025 06:58

soupyspoon · 18/11/2025 22:21

No, a friend in need, is a friend indeed because they'll do anything for you because you're going to help them, so they are acting 'like a good friend' because they want something out of you.

No, the “in need” refers to you. A friend who is still your friend when you are in need is a good friend. It’s the opposite of a fair weather friend.

snowmichael · 19/11/2025 06:57

Makeitstop2025 · 18/11/2025 21:12

Tall, Dark and Handsome. I always pictured that to mean a white man and that the "dark" was in reference to features such as black/brown hair or brown eyes. A friend told me that the dark was in reference to skin colour and that it basically meant a person of colour.

Before anyone comments that it shows my bias, I am a person of colour!

Your friend is incorrect

BreatheAndFocus · 19/11/2025 06:55

SweetnsourNZ · 19/11/2025 05:10

I thought that about spendthrift too. It still doesn't make any sense to me. How can that be anything to do with being thrifty

‘Thrift’ means wealth or savings. So a spendthrift is literally someone who spends their wealth - ie profligate. Someone who’s thrifty on the other hand holds on to their wealth.

verybighouseinthecountry · 19/11/2025 06:39

Not a saying but until recently I thought jungle music was animal sounds speeded up. House music was something wholesome, that the whole household would enjoy.

Conniebygaslight · 19/11/2025 06:37

TellingBone · 18/11/2025 23:08

Suspend belief vs suspend disbelief

If I'm watching a film I'm suspending disbelief aren't I? - I'm suspending my critical thinking [which tells me these things aren't true] in order to temporarily buy into and enjoy the fiction I'm being shown.

But I've always had a niggling thought that this could also be described as suspending belief. In one sense I'm temporarily suspending my beliefs, or my belief system, in order to enjoy the fiction.

Explained badly, but I hope you get what I mean. 😃

I say suspend disbelief too, but always question myself.
Your post makes perfect sense to me

RhaenysRocks · 19/11/2025 06:31

Notthehill · 19/11/2025 04:53

My whole life people have tried to explain to me the meaning of the expression 'that begs the question' and no matter how many times they do I simply cannot process its meaning.

It means, in philosophy at least, that the starting point of an argument or question already assumes the answer. So "God is the greatest conceivable being; it is greater to exist in reality than merely in thought so God must exist in reality". Some argue that this "begs the question" because the first statement assumes God exists.

eeeeLad · 19/11/2025 06:28

MysteriousInspector · 18/11/2025 23:53

Google tells me that the term Catch 22 originated from the 1961 novel Catch-22 by Joseph Heller, describing a military rule where a pilot could be grounded for being insane, but any pilot who requested to be grounded [because pf the danger] was proving they were sane and therefore had to continue flying.

edit: [my addition]

Edited

Sorry if someone's already asked I don't want to lose my place in the thread while I finish reading, but why did he coin it a 'catch 22' do you know? Rather than any other random combination of words and numbers! I'd love to know if there's more to it than that. Am I being dumb though now 😄

Birdy1982 · 19/11/2025 06:26

Shivers - always referred to it as feeling as though a Goose was walking over your grave 🤦‍♀️
In some rural graveyard next to a farm this could still be a thing 🤷‍♀️

Mothership4two · 19/11/2025 06:23

I thought the Cold War was called that because the USSR had a cold climate until DH put me straight and told me it's because there was no direct military fighting! In my defence I was a dippy teenager at the time!