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To have completely misunderstood the meaning of some sayings?

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KermitTheToad · 18/11/2025 20:53

I only found out today that the term Social Butterfly refers to someone who is outgoing and loves social events. I thought it meant you didn't like social events, as in you would fly away and avoid them. I also until recently thought that a Spendthrift is somebody who is frugal in their spending. I assumed that as thrifty meant not being wasteful, that Spendthrift meant being careful in what you spent.
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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/11/2025 09:46

honeylulu · 19/11/2025 00:15

I agree about bucolic, it sounds like a nasty stomach virus.

See also pulchritude. Sounds like something putrid and repulsive but means "beauty".

I also think emasculate sounds wrong. It sounds like someone is made super-masculine rather than less so.

I have noticed a lot of people using "fulsome" to mean genuine high praise but it actually means praise which is insincere.

As I child I didn't properly understand "many hands make light work". I envisaged lots of people reaching up and putting their hands on a light bulb and it lighting up.

I was also confused by "life is but a dream" in Row row row your boat. I thought it was Butterdream and decided that it must be like a butterfly.

Emasculate - the e- prefix means 'out' and so the word means to remove the masculinity from someone. Nowadays I expect people mostly think of e- as a prefix for an electronic version of something, i.e. better, quicker, more modern.

DancingOctopus · 19/11/2025 09:43

TheIncredibleBookEatingManchot · 18/11/2025 21:53

I thought the saying "when the going gets tough the tough get going" meant when things are hard the so-called tough scarper. Actually it means they spring into action.

And "a friend in need is a friend indeed" I thought was a kind of sarcastically saying when someone needs something from you they act like a really good friend. Really it means if someone's your friend in your hour of need they're a true friend.

Thank you. I never understood that saying and like you interpreted it sarcastically.

JudgeJ · 19/11/2025 09:42

LushLemonTart · 19/11/2025 09:39

Do you think that's where 'being a pussy' came from?

Pusillanimous always reminds me of Richard Burton calling his girlfriend Lady Pusillanimous in Look Back in Anger!

Kreepture · 19/11/2025 09:41

emmetgirl · 18/11/2025 22:30

But spendthrift comes from the word thrifty which means careful with money so its meaning should be quite clear 🤷‍♀️

nope, thrifty mans frugal, thrift meant wealth, as a couple of us explained upthread.
similar words, different meanings.

sashh · 19/11/2025 09:40

Linzloopy · 18/11/2025 22:03

A member of my family frequently uses "the proof of the pudding is in the eating" wrongly - she thinks it means something like "that proves it!"

I've told her that "proof" in the saying means "test", like the way you leave bread dough to "prove" to check the yeast is working and see if it’s ready to put in the oven, or see "proofs" of something that’s being printed to check it's right before the final printing, but she doesn’t believe me.

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At least she knows the full phrase, I keep hearing people on TV saying, the proof is in the pudding - which makes no sense.

LushLemonTart · 19/11/2025 09:39

AutumnClouds · 18/11/2025 22:29

Pusillanimous sounds like it should mean scrappy and ready to fight to me

Do you think that's where 'being a pussy' came from?

Kreepture · 19/11/2025 09:36

soupyspoon · 18/11/2025 22:21

No, a friend in need, is a friend indeed because they'll do anything for you because you're going to help them, so they are acting 'like a good friend' because they want something out of you.

Incorrect i'm afraid.

"A friend in need" is someone who is your friend in your time of need. It literally means a friend who helps you in tough times is a true friend.

HyggeTygge · 19/11/2025 09:36

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/11/2025 09:31

Aha, my husband has a MN account after all! He says this every single time he hears the word used. Grin

One of the much discussed phrases on this thread would be a lot clearer with an added comma. A friend, in need, is a friend indeed.

It's very rare indeed to see 'deceptively' used correctly by estate agents. 'Deceptively spacious' does not mean what they think it does.

I think it does? It is spacious, but in a way that you night initially think it isn't - ie you would be deceived as to the true nature of it.

Having looked it up on wiktionary, examples are given for the usage meaning 'actually but not apparently' AND 'apparently but not actually'. So it's been confused for a very long time!

CarefulN0w · 19/11/2025 09:35

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 18/11/2025 22:21

I don't understand this either.

It means you don't / can't know if the thing has worked / is good until the very end, surely?!

So you don't know if the pudding is any good until you eat it - there's no way to tell before that.

I’m confused by this one too. The proof is how good it is when it’s cooked. It means you make your plan (or pudding) and have to wait to see if it’s successful.

Also proving bread is about letting the yeast ferment, not testing it. Grin

Janboree · 19/11/2025 09:33

fost · 18/11/2025 23:11

As a kid I thought a stuck pig was squealing because he was trapped and wanted to be set free. It was a long time before I realised that is not what 'stuck' meant in this phrase.

😢😢

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/11/2025 09:31

Brahumbug · 19/11/2025 08:25

Another one that irritated me is the misuse of 'epicentre'. "This is the epicentre of the drug trade" etc🙄. It used as a faux intellectual expression to make some more dramatic. It is not a synonym for 'centre'

Aha, my husband has a MN account after all! He says this every single time he hears the word used. Grin

One of the much discussed phrases on this thread would be a lot clearer with an added comma. A friend, in need, is a friend indeed.

It's very rare indeed to see 'deceptively' used correctly by estate agents. 'Deceptively spacious' does not mean what they think it does.

honeylulu · 19/11/2025 09:29

My sister (who is really quite clever) confessed that for years she thought "air strikes" meant that there would be no wartime bombing because the pilots has refused to fly. Rather than that a region was in fact being struck by bombs from the air.

"You can't have your cake and eat it" is another common misquote which doesn't make sense. Of course you have to have (possess) the cake in order to eat it. In fact the correct expression is "you cannot eat your cake and have it too". In other words if you choose to eat your cake you will no longer possess it, because it's gone.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 19/11/2025 09:28

Makeitstop2025 · 18/11/2025 21:12

Tall, Dark and Handsome. I always pictured that to mean a white man and that the "dark" was in reference to features such as black/brown hair or brown eyes. A friend told me that the dark was in reference to skin colour and that it basically meant a person of colour.

Before anyone comments that it shows my bias, I am a person of colour!

Your friend was wrong. It’s an expression that’s been around for a very long time.

BunnyLake · 19/11/2025 09:24

Sanction is a funny word. I’d get confused about it when younger as it has two opposite meanings depending on the context.

honeylulu · 19/11/2025 09:23

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 19/11/2025 09:01

Yes. A petard is a little bomb that they used to blow up walls in sieges in medieval times, definitely not Biblical-era tech. But the concept is an old one I imagine.

I am fascinated by the different interpretations of "a friend in need...". I had only ever heard the nice one (when you're really struggling and a friend helps you, that's a very good friend) but I am enjoying the more cynical interpretation as that can be true too!

"Spendthrift" does make sense, or it used to. "Thrift" originally meant "wealth" so it just means someone who spends what they've got instead of saving it.

Love a bit of midweek etymology

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I have heard (though my French is awful so I can't verify) that the petard explosive device got it's name from the old French word, petar, for fart. I hope it's true because I childishly find it amusing.

The bomsitit one is interesting. I had not heard it before but it seems fairly common from this thread. I get what people are saying, that it doesn't make sense as a truncated word for "it is like a bomb has hit it" because it misses out too many words but that is sometimes how expressions evolve. For example the more recent "imma" which is used in place of "I am going to" (not just "I am" as some people think). So when Kanye said to Taylor Swift "Imma let you finish" he meant "I am going to let you finish" not "I am finish" which makes no sense.

Edited because I made a hash of that one myself!

silkypyjamas · 19/11/2025 09:21

soupyspoon · 18/11/2025 21:31

Yes off your own bat which I believe is a cricketing reference

I also say moot point a lot and unfortunately I think people think Im saying mute.

Yes!! My friend says mute! also says "pedal stool" as in put them on a pedestal 😳

Cornflakegirl7 · 19/11/2025 09:18

soupyspoon · 18/11/2025 21:09

Spendthrift is surely an oxymoron, Ive always known what it means but it doesnt make sense

Someone who spends their thrift.
A lot of these misunderstandings in my mind, comes from people who don't' enjoy reading. Reading is essential to understand words and sayings and their meanings, from a young age into adulthood.

Anxietybummer · 19/11/2025 09:16

jamcorrosion · 18/11/2025 21:04

Is it?! Am I just as bad 😂

I’ve just re read it and still think they sound close

It’s a bit confusing in the OP but she has explained her interpretation twice without explaining what a spendthrift is. On first reading it looks as if OP if providing a definition and her interpretation, but she isn’t.

CreativeAccounting · 19/11/2025 09:16

“But squids are damp” my daughter said to me when I told her that “damp squid” is incorrect.

SouthernNights59 · 19/11/2025 09:14

Leavesfalling · 19/11/2025 08:15

No ..its if you have a friend and they need something from you, they are going to act as a really good friend to you.

It's really, really, not.

Brahumbug · 19/11/2025 09:14

CryMyEyesViolet · 19/11/2025 08:32

Isn’t the epicentre effectively the source/centre point of an earthquake? The epicentre of the drug trade makes perfect sense if so because it’s a metaphor for the strongest point that then has ripple effects much further out?

Or have I also misunderstood epicentre?

Yes, you have misunderstood epicentre. The epicentre of an earthquake is the point on the earth's surface directly above the earthquake. The point of origin of the earthquake is the hypocentre. Epicentre of the drugs trade makes no sense. It is just journalists trying to add a false sense of drama to a situation.

Genevieva · 19/11/2025 09:04

I thought social butterfly meant super sociable but also unreliable because they are always flitting between friends and social occasions.

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 19/11/2025 09:02

StruggleFlourish · 18/11/2025 21:14

English is an interesting language,
and especially more so when you start throwing some colloquialisms in there. You really do have to understand the etymology of the idiom before you can really understand what idea is being conveyed
An awful lot of people hear a saying and then just assume they know what it means but words are confusing without context.
More times than not the sayings are historically based. As a child I loved finding out the meanings behind strange sayings and I had many books about this very topic.

(Example "good night sleep tight...."
What does sleep tight mean?
I'm not asking the question, I know the answer...but if you don't know what it means, you could find out historically the story about the history of rope-based bed frames)

You could Google what some of the most commonly misunderstood phrases and sayings in the English language are and I'm sure that there'd be a huge list.
But you're right, some sayings could potentially be taken two ways if you're not sure where the saying comes from, or if you've missed heard it and you've never seen the words spelled, as there are many words that sound like other things, and that can also lead to misunderstanding.

Good luck!
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Or even "misheard" it 😉

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 19/11/2025 09:01

HideousKinky · 19/11/2025 08:45

"Hoist by your own petard" is from Hamlet

Yes. A petard is a little bomb that they used to blow up walls in sieges in medieval times, definitely not Biblical-era tech. But the concept is an old one I imagine.

I am fascinated by the different interpretations of "a friend in need...". I had only ever heard the nice one (when you're really struggling and a friend helps you, that's a very good friend) but I am enjoying the more cynical interpretation as that can be true too!

"Spendthrift" does make sense, or it used to. "Thrift" originally meant "wealth" so it just means someone who spends what they've got instead of saving it.

Love a bit of midweek etymology

Westly · 19/11/2025 09:00

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A couple of people have vouched for me on this. I don’t appreciate being called a liar. You’ve shown yourself up as being pretty ignorant, and your comment which was deleted was also pretty crass. Talk about bringing the tone down on what is a fun thread. I’m so over this mentality on MN. I would like an apology, but chance is a fine thing. Have a good day!

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