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Should people who voted for Brexit be allowed to apply for an Irish Passport?

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Berlinlover · 18/11/2025 18:47

I have two cousins who were born and raised in England who have an Irish father and an English mother. Both my cousins voted for Brexit and are now applying for Irish passports. I’m Irish and living in Ireland and this makes me absolutely furious. They are both women in their 50s who never wanted an Irish passport until now. They have no interest whatsoever in Irish history and anything related to Ireland. They’re not even embarrassed that they voted for Brexit and see an Irish passport as a way of skipping queues at the airport. It seems so unfair on those who voted to remain but don’t have an Irish parent/grandparent so can’t apply for an Irish passport.

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GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 19/11/2025 10:54

Dh and his brothers all now have Irish passports. I doubt any of them voted for Brexit though - dh certainly didn’t.

But it does irritate me a bit that dh now makes a lot of his (southern) Irish roots, even though it was down to one GM who left for the U.K. as a very young woman, and never went back to live.
As I like to tell him, as far as I’m concerned, the GM wasn’t even ‘proper’ Irish, the family were all staunch Protestants, probably descended from Scots way back.

yorkshiretoffee · 19/11/2025 10:45

Northbynorthbest · 19/11/2025 10:05

The op's question was if people who voted for Brexit should be allowed to apply for an Irish passport. In other words, she's asking if your right to apply for a passport you're entitled to should be determined by you holding the "correct" political views.
People talking about the hypocrisy of Brexiteers getting an Irish passport are missing the bigger and more serious question at play here, and that is whether you should be able to strip people of their legal rights and entitlements if they hold a political view that you don't like.

You seem to be taking the question more seriously than me. Of course there is no democratic way to actually stop them.

What I would like though is for the brexiteers themselves to believe enough in life outside of Europe to not get the EU passport in the first place. They need to look at their own moral compasses and not apply.

Egypt500 · 19/11/2025 10:36

Livelovebehappy · 19/11/2025 09:46

Just move on. All this Angst over a vote which took place 5 years ago is becoming so tedious. Brexit won. Remain didn’t. Get over it, and just try and focus on something you can change. Channel your energy into lobbying the government over this shitshow they’re creating. Brexit is a done deal and no amount of name calling or anger is going to change it. People who are going on about Brexit are the same ones who will be moaning when Reform get in at the next GE. You need to learn that when governments don’t listen to voters, then action will be taken to make them listen.

A suggestion, everyone on this thread telling everybody else to “just move on” (presumably because they voted for Brexit)need to demonstrate a little bit of humility and say that they are at least a little bit sorry.

Then I for one am willing to “move on“.

GoBackToTheStart · 19/11/2025 10:22

Of course they should. It might be infuriating, hypocritical, and leave a very sour taste, but a modern and democratic society absolutely cannot strip individuals of fundamental rights like the right to citizenship just because they voted a certain way at a specific point in time (in a different country!).

Are you seriously proposing we track people’s voting records to hold them to account? We remove the anonymity of the ballot box just to stick it to people that don’t vote the way we want them to? That doesn’t sound terrifying at all…

If Irish people have an issue with the way people are now accessing Irish passports, they need to take it up with the Irish Government and seek to make it more restrictive. It has nothing to do with votes in the UK.

Is it just Ireland or should the same rules be implemented across the EU to make sure people aren’t accessing passports for EU countries when they might not have bothered before…

Northbynorthbest · 19/11/2025 10:13

jan2310 · 19/11/2025 07:05

I lived in Ireland for all of my childhood and young adulthood but wasn’t born there. School, college, first jobs. I can’t have an Irish passport although I see it as my home. I have a friend who now has an Irish passport although she’s never set foot in Ireland and never intends to. It’s infuriating.

You could have applied for citizenship through naturalisation while you were living here. That door was open to you.
https://www.irishimmigration.ie/how-to-become-a-citizen/become-an-irish-citizen-by-naturalisation/#processing

Northbynorthbest · 19/11/2025 10:05

yorkshiretoffee · 19/11/2025 09:26

Their views are not simply something to disagree with, they are directly related to the issue.
Their views mean that they have taken rights away from others that they have kept themselves.
If they believe in Brexit and believe the UK is better off out of the UK, then they should put their money where their mouth is and stick to their British passport. Why are they not doing that?

The op's question was if people who voted for Brexit should be allowed to apply for an Irish passport. In other words, she's asking if your right to apply for a passport you're entitled to should be determined by you holding the "correct" political views.
People talking about the hypocrisy of Brexiteers getting an Irish passport are missing the bigger and more serious question at play here, and that is whether you should be able to strip people of their legal rights and entitlements if they hold a political view that you don't like.

JHound · 19/11/2025 09:49

Yes they should.

Livelovebehappy · 19/11/2025 09:46

firstofallimadelight · 19/11/2025 06:37

It should never have been a public vote. A large portion of people voting genuinely didn’t understand the implications of what they were voting for especially given all the propaganda from Nigel Farage and his party.

Just move on. All this Angst over a vote which took place 5 years ago is becoming so tedious. Brexit won. Remain didn’t. Get over it, and just try and focus on something you can change. Channel your energy into lobbying the government over this shitshow they’re creating. Brexit is a done deal and no amount of name calling or anger is going to change it. People who are going on about Brexit are the same ones who will be moaning when Reform get in at the next GE. You need to learn that when governments don’t listen to voters, then action will be taken to make them listen.

yorkshiretoffee · 19/11/2025 09:26

Northbynorthbest · 18/11/2025 23:08

So many undemocratic views on this thread. Many of you would make great dictators. If someone votes a way you don't like, you'd strip them of their entitlements.
For people who are so pro-EU and all the freedom that it brings, it's quite ironic that you're espousing views that are calling for a restriction to the democratic right of people to apply for a passport they're entitled to. And all because you don't agree with their views.
In my opinion, this view and attitude is more worrying and concerning than the hypocrisy of voting for Brexit and then applying for an Irish passport.

Their views are not simply something to disagree with, they are directly related to the issue.
Their views mean that they have taken rights away from others that they have kept themselves.
If they believe in Brexit and believe the UK is better off out of the UK, then they should put their money where their mouth is and stick to their British passport. Why are they not doing that?

jeebiesheebies · 19/11/2025 09:24

Boutrosboutros · 19/11/2025 09:11

Yes this is the case for us. My MIL's parents were born in Ireland so she can apply. Technically my DH can too, but as neither MIL nor DH had an Irish passport when my DC were born (pre-brexit), the DC won't be able to enjoy the benefits to which MIL is availing herself.

I know that what she's doing is legal and I don't expect her to be punished, but it doesn't stop me feeling deeply angry at her hypocrisy and the injustice of the situation.

Edited

I’m so thankful that my DH got his before we had DCs. My understanding is that it can continue on through the family as my DCs (teens) have theirs, their DCs will be entitled etc. My MIL is Irish and a Brexiteer. Oh what joy from pulling up the drawbridge, eh? 😡

downwiththatsortof · 19/11/2025 09:13

I understand the annoyance about voting for Brexit and obtaining an Irish passport, but I really take issue with people saying that Irish descendants shouldn't get one. Irish people have for hundreds of years had to emigrate due to its past poor economic structure. This is why Ireland is generous with the diaspora.
Both my Irish parents moved to England due to this in the 50s. I obtained my passport as (part) to try and keep a connection but also for my children. I had one of my children whilst living in Dublin. I want them to know some of their heritage and the passport is part of it.

Boutrosboutros · 19/11/2025 09:11

BusMumsHoliday · 19/11/2025 07:06

Not necessarily. If MIL got the passport when she was in her eg 60s on the basis of her grandparent being born in Ireland, then any children born before she got her citizenship can't become Irish citizens by descent because she wasn't a citizen when they were born. I got my Irish citizenship while pregnant for this reason! (Many thanks to the helpful Irish civil servants at the Register of Foreign Births who fast tracked it.) I voted Remain.

OP, I can see why you're annoyed. It would be interesting if Ireland does change the rules on this - which I always assumed were there because of historic depopulation and large amounts of migration, which is maybe not the case so much these days.

Yes this is the case for us. My MIL's parents were born in Ireland so she can apply. Technically my DH can too, but as neither MIL nor DH had an Irish passport when my DC were born (pre-brexit), the DC won't be able to enjoy the benefits to which MIL is availing herself.

I know that what she's doing is legal and I don't expect her to be punished, but it doesn't stop me feeling deeply angry at her hypocrisy and the injustice of the situation.

FeatheryFlorence · 19/11/2025 08:23

My cousin, who is Nigel Farage’s number one cheerleader, and Brexiteer, recently applied for a Hungarian passport. She was told she wasn’t eligible as her parents weren’t married before she was born. Oh how I laughed…

WalkDontWalk · 19/11/2025 07:45

How would the Irish authorities know who they voted for?

Berlinlover · 19/11/2025 07:44

Fairyliz · 19/11/2025 07:10

Should people who smoke be treated for lung cancer? After all they have caused it, why should the rest of us pay out more for their stupid decision?
Do you think that’s the same thing op?
People make stupid decisions every day, we just have to accept it.

I’m sure the majority of smokers who are diagnosed with lung cancer regret ever lighting up a cigarette, my cousins seem to have no regret voting Brexit.

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KilliMonjaro · 19/11/2025 07:40

bignewprinz · 18/11/2025 19:03

People who voted for Brexit should be drop-kicked into the bloody sea.

Irish sea seems fitting for these two.

🙌💯

Keepthecat · 19/11/2025 07:30

No, they really shouldn't. However they can't be stopped. We actually have a Brexiteer MP here who did that. It's a shame on them and all you can do is fume/pour scorn/curse them.

ForMyNextTrickIWillMakeThisVodkaDisappear · 19/11/2025 07:24

Agree that it takes the absolute piss. My 18 year old who was 8 at the time of the referendum would not have voted to leave and would love the option of an Irish passport. So would I actually.

thepariscrimefiles · 19/11/2025 07:15

Bambamhoohoo · 18/11/2025 19:26

Well you can’t have one law for people with one political belief and a different law for other beliefs- Ireland is a democracy so wouldn't discriminate on this basis, no.

Obviously you can't have one law for people with one political belief and a different law for people with the opposite belief. However, you can call out the sheer hypocricy of the many Brexiteers (includingg that racist arsehole Tommy Robinson) who apply for an Irish passport solely to make travelling to the EU easier for themselves having fucked up free movement for the rest of us.

Fairyliz · 19/11/2025 07:10

Should people who smoke be treated for lung cancer? After all they have caused it, why should the rest of us pay out more for their stupid decision?
Do you think that’s the same thing op?
People make stupid decisions every day, we just have to accept it.

Northbynorthbest · 19/11/2025 07:10

XWKD · 19/11/2025 06:38

This is Ireland's fault for handing out passports too easily.

People with Irish ancestry are entitled to apply for Irish citizenship. There is strict eligibility criteria. We don't hand out passports to all and sundry.
https://www.ireland.ie/en/dfa/citizenship/

threescoops · 19/11/2025 07:09

Yes. In a democracy you can’t punish people for disagreeing with you.

Pedallleur · 19/11/2025 07:07

Multi billionaire James Radcliffe was a Brexiteer then skipped off to Monaco. No different for these people.

BusMumsHoliday · 19/11/2025 07:06

ReadingSoManyThreads · 18/11/2025 23:29

Surely if she's now an Irish passport holder, then the grandchildren will now be eligible for one too now?

Not necessarily. If MIL got the passport when she was in her eg 60s on the basis of her grandparent being born in Ireland, then any children born before she got her citizenship can't become Irish citizens by descent because she wasn't a citizen when they were born. I got my Irish citizenship while pregnant for this reason! (Many thanks to the helpful Irish civil servants at the Register of Foreign Births who fast tracked it.) I voted Remain.

OP, I can see why you're annoyed. It would be interesting if Ireland does change the rules on this - which I always assumed were there because of historic depopulation and large amounts of migration, which is maybe not the case so much these days.

jan2310 · 19/11/2025 07:05

I lived in Ireland for all of my childhood and young adulthood but wasn’t born there. School, college, first jobs. I can’t have an Irish passport although I see it as my home. I have a friend who now has an Irish passport although she’s never set foot in Ireland and never intends to. It’s infuriating.