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Should people who voted for Brexit be allowed to apply for an Irish Passport?

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Berlinlover · 18/11/2025 18:47

I have two cousins who were born and raised in England who have an Irish father and an English mother. Both my cousins voted for Brexit and are now applying for Irish passports. I’m Irish and living in Ireland and this makes me absolutely furious. They are both women in their 50s who never wanted an Irish passport until now. They have no interest whatsoever in Irish history and anything related to Ireland. They’re not even embarrassed that they voted for Brexit and see an Irish passport as a way of skipping queues at the airport. It seems so unfair on those who voted to remain but don’t have an Irish parent/grandparent so can’t apply for an Irish passport.

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howrudeforme · 19/11/2025 14:47

Well they’re legally entitled to do it but is freaking galling that they contributed to pulling out the rug from job opportunities for British youngsters. They so patriotic about Ireland that they want a passport, be glad if they moved there. Bet they’re freaking reform enthusiasts too.

Millytante · 19/11/2025 14:42

Cattenberg · 19/11/2025 13:43

I'd choose Irish. I could still live in the UK and also in any EU country. When my parents no longer need my help, my plan is to move to Ireland and live and work there for at least five years. Once DD and I have Irish citizenship, we might move on, or we might stay. The important thing is that we will have a lot of choices.

I know some Irish MNers are worried that too many British people will move to Ireland, but many Irish people also make use of their right to live and work in the UK.

Are we so concerned about British citizens moving here? I don’t think we are, in the least, and it’d be no new thing after all. I’d say we’ve a very harmonious coexistence, and that’s been the case for yonks.
We can get a bit salty about people who settle for 5 years in order to become naturalised citizens, expressly to feck orf into the wide blue yonder once they've the passport they needed.
That's seen as very poor form (and it’s contrary to the acceptance conditions of the acquired citizenship, by the way)

justasking111 · 19/11/2025 14:35

If I did bother to get my Irish passport my Irish state pension would be higher than the UK one.

Sourisblanche · 19/11/2025 14:07

I’m so glad that I married into the EU. But I do feel sorry for young people who didn’t vote for Brexit and have had their job/travel plans curtailed.

ExpressCheckout · 19/11/2025 14:05

YANBU. But they voted for Brexit so they can't be very bright and are more likely than not to be racists/Reform voters, so the moral bar is already set quite low I think.

Bobbinog · 19/11/2025 14:02

In answer to your question OP, yes of course they should. They are legally entitled to apply because of their heritage and legal rights are not just for people deemed 'suitable', they're for everyone equally.

Also, how could passport application possibly be based on voting record? Voting is a secret ballot for a good reason and removing that right would be a total disaster for democracy.

Greggsit · 19/11/2025 13:56

NConthe · 19/11/2025 13:48

Even if this was the case (which it’s not, of course there’s a record 🥴) why would they actually need a record if you leaving? What “hot water” would you be in?

Because most countries have a limit to how long foreign nationals can stay, even those that don't require visas. Try going back into the US, if according to your passport you are already in the country, see what happens with ICE! Or if you go to the EU on a UK passport, and there's no record of you leaving on the same one within 180 days. That will also cause issues.

NConthe · 19/11/2025 13:48

Whyherewego · 19/11/2025 13:24

Yes but if you are travelling abroad presumably you dont carry all your passports ? And if you are abroad with the Irish one and travel back on the British one then that can also land you into hot water as there's no record of you leaving / entering. Anyone with dual nationality is advised to be consistent with passport usage when travel.

Even if this was the case (which it’s not, of course there’s a record 🥴) why would they actually need a record if you leaving? What “hot water” would you be in?

Cattenberg · 19/11/2025 13:43

1one · 19/11/2025 10:55

It would be interesting if they changed the rules and you were only allowed 1 passport - either Irish or British. Wonder which one most would opt for?

I'd choose British.

I'd choose Irish. I could still live in the UK and also in any EU country. When my parents no longer need my help, my plan is to move to Ireland and live and work there for at least five years. Once DD and I have Irish citizenship, we might move on, or we might stay. The important thing is that we will have a lot of choices.

I know some Irish MNers are worried that too many British people will move to Ireland, but many Irish people also make use of their right to live and work in the UK.

Whyherewego · 19/11/2025 13:24

Northbynorthbest · 19/11/2025 12:29

People from Ireland and Britain can both hold dual citizenship. They don't have to give up one to avail of the other.

Yes but if you are travelling abroad presumably you dont carry all your passports ? And if you are abroad with the Irish one and travel back on the British one then that can also land you into hot water as there's no record of you leaving / entering. Anyone with dual nationality is advised to be consistent with passport usage when travel.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 19/11/2025 13:12

Tikestar · 19/11/2025 11:13

That’s a bit insulting. My DH is a proud Irishman and brought up a Protestant. Some of his ancestors were Scottish, English, Dutch and Hugenot but he’s still ‘proper’ Irish.

Very likely, but it’s my comeback when he’s gloating a bit about having an Irish passport, for which he’s done absolutely nothing, while I am not entitled to one. 😈

Livelovebehappy · 19/11/2025 13:09

Egypt500 · 19/11/2025 12:48

So, no apology then?

Figures.

Seriously? You think someone who has been called stupid/dumb/brain dead, should show humility and empathy to those people, by apologising for a vote held years ago whereby a majority voted in favour? Why? I’m not sorry I voted Brexit, so any apology would be a fake one I’m afraid.

Egypt500 · 19/11/2025 12:48

Livelovebehappy · 19/11/2025 11:51

Maybe those who dont support Brexit could also show a little kindness and not name call and be aggressive. It's a two way street where maybe respect could be reciprocated.

So, no apology then?

Figures.

Northbynorthbest · 19/11/2025 12:29

Whyherewego · 19/11/2025 12:01

Don't worry because if they ever lose their Irish passport when abroad, they'll get a piece of paper entitling them passage to Ireland and not UK!

People from Ireland and Britain can both hold dual citizenship. They don't have to give up one to avail of the other.

yorkshiretoffee · 19/11/2025 12:20

NConthe · 19/11/2025 12:16

Daft of them since they could just use their parents details 🤔

Not if they are not citizens.

NConthe · 19/11/2025 12:16

Soonenough · 18/11/2025 19:16

How could you prove anything though ? Irish passport is one of tge most desirable in the world . My UK cousins were falling over themselves to get grandparents documents to apply for passports . The old granny clause is why we have so many Premier League footballers playing for Ireland 🇮🇪.

Daft of them since they could just use their parents details 🤔

TooBigForMyBoots · 19/11/2025 12:03

yorkshiretoffee · 19/11/2025 10:45

You seem to be taking the question more seriously than me. Of course there is no democratic way to actually stop them.

What I would like though is for the brexiteers themselves to believe enough in life outside of Europe to not get the EU passport in the first place. They need to look at their own moral compasses and not apply.

I think some of their moral compasses were off kilter before they voted Leave so I'm not overly shocked about their hypocrisy now.

Freedom of movement for me, not thee.Hmm

Whyherewego · 19/11/2025 12:01

Don't worry because if they ever lose their Irish passport when abroad, they'll get a piece of paper entitling them passage to Ireland and not UK!

surreygirly · 19/11/2025 11:59

Maybe they should get a passport to Romania that is in the EU

surreygirly · 19/11/2025 11:58

Jeez
Surely someone is still not whinging about a vote that was 9 years ago
Move on

belleager · 19/11/2025 11:57

Livelovebehappy · 19/11/2025 11:51

Maybe those who dont support Brexit could also show a little kindness and not name call and be aggressive. It's a two way street where maybe respect could be reciprocated.

Yes. Ultimately, the British government offered a referendum, and the electorate had the right to assume either outcome was possible and reasonable, not some sort of bear trap.

camperjam · 19/11/2025 11:52

Boutrosboutros · 18/11/2025 18:50

My mother in law has done the same. Boils my blood. The absolute gall of cutting off her grandchildren from free movement around Europe but keeping it for herself. I struggle to look at her.

The same here except it's my own mother. So annoyed

Livelovebehappy · 19/11/2025 11:51

Egypt500 · 19/11/2025 10:36

A suggestion, everyone on this thread telling everybody else to “just move on” (presumably because they voted for Brexit)need to demonstrate a little bit of humility and say that they are at least a little bit sorry.

Then I for one am willing to “move on“.

Maybe those who dont support Brexit could also show a little kindness and not name call and be aggressive. It's a two way street where maybe respect could be reciprocated.

Tikestar · 19/11/2025 11:13

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 19/11/2025 10:54

Dh and his brothers all now have Irish passports. I doubt any of them voted for Brexit though - dh certainly didn’t.

But it does irritate me a bit that dh now makes a lot of his (southern) Irish roots, even though it was down to one GM who left for the U.K. as a very young woman, and never went back to live.
As I like to tell him, as far as I’m concerned, the GM wasn’t even ‘proper’ Irish, the family were all staunch Protestants, probably descended from Scots way back.

That’s a bit insulting. My DH is a proud Irishman and brought up a Protestant. Some of his ancestors were Scottish, English, Dutch and Hugenot but he’s still ‘proper’ Irish.

1one · 19/11/2025 10:55

It would be interesting if they changed the rules and you were only allowed 1 passport - either Irish or British. Wonder which one most would opt for?

I'd choose British.