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Should people who voted for Brexit be allowed to apply for an Irish Passport?

306 replies

Berlinlover · 18/11/2025 18:47

I have two cousins who were born and raised in England who have an Irish father and an English mother. Both my cousins voted for Brexit and are now applying for Irish passports. I’m Irish and living in Ireland and this makes me absolutely furious. They are both women in their 50s who never wanted an Irish passport until now. They have no interest whatsoever in Irish history and anything related to Ireland. They’re not even embarrassed that they voted for Brexit and see an Irish passport as a way of skipping queues at the airport. It seems so unfair on those who voted to remain but don’t have an Irish parent/grandparent so can’t apply for an Irish passport.

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belleager · 23/11/2025 21:25

It is weird how many people claiming to be ardently pro-European are both anti-democratic and incapable of looking past the UK's main character syndrome on the international stage.

You don't punish people for voting the "wrong" way, outside a totalitarian state with sham elections. And the conditions other countries put on their citizenship is not for the UK to decide.

belleager · 23/11/2025 21:21

pushthebuttonnn · 23/11/2025 21:16

It's causing huge backlogs for passport applications , it was an absolute headache for a while and could all kick off again.
Brexit caused millions of extra applications for Irish passports. Do you realise how many people in Britain have Irish ancestry? This was all fine all along but now due to Brexit the Irish passport is extremely attractive. No doubt other EU countries are in a similar situation too.

That's far too trivial a reason to deny people citizenship. There are plenty of other solutions to a backlog in paperwork.

RubySquid · 23/11/2025 21:16

fuzzyduck1 · 23/11/2025 20:00

Shouldn’t be allowed.
but then if you didn’t vote then you shouldn’t be allowed a passport at all.

Of any nationality? Ridiculous comment. My friend didn't vote, she wasn't allowed despite having lived in the UK for 50 years at that time

So are they going to remove he Belgian passport?

SHe lived in the UK long before Brexit even started . They way some people go on it seems they think there was EU forever. But in reality it was 1990s it happened so hardly long in the scheme of things

pushthebuttonnn · 23/11/2025 21:16

belleager · 23/11/2025 18:49

Why should the Irish government tighten its policy rather than the British government?

And why do they need to, anyway? How is it harming Ireland?

It's causing huge backlogs for passport applications , it was an absolute headache for a while and could all kick off again.
Brexit caused millions of extra applications for Irish passports. Do you realise how many people in Britain have Irish ancestry? This was all fine all along but now due to Brexit the Irish passport is extremely attractive. No doubt other EU countries are in a similar situation too.

fuzzyduck1 · 23/11/2025 20:00

Shouldn’t be allowed.
but then if you didn’t vote then you shouldn’t be allowed a passport at all.

RubySquid · 23/11/2025 19:31

horseplay12 · 23/11/2025 15:03

No, they shouldn’t be allowed to - it’s totally hypocritical.

And why would the IRISH government know or care?

Brianthepug · 23/11/2025 19:00

I didn't actually realise I was entitled to an Irish passport until my Dad died and I had to go through probate in Ireland ( Dad was born in the North). As soon as I could, I applied for one. And I do have many links to Ireland and visit at least twice a year. Also applied for my youngest daughters FBR as she had to go to Italy as part of Uni in 2021, and getting all the paperwork to allow her to stay more than 90 days was an absolute nightmare.🙄
And we all voted Remain in our house.

belleager · 23/11/2025 18:49

pushthebuttonnn · 23/11/2025 18:31

No they shouldn't. I think the Irish government needs to tighten their policy. Dual nationality shouldn't be allowed either for those in the North. It should be one or the other.

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Why should the Irish government tighten its policy rather than the British government?

And why do they need to, anyway? How is it harming Ireland?

pushthebuttonnn · 23/11/2025 18:31

No they shouldn't. I think the Irish government needs to tighten their policy. Dual nationality shouldn't be allowed either for those in the North. It should be one or the other.

belleager · 23/11/2025 18:27

yorkshiretoffee · 23/11/2025 18:11

I think a lot of people just know people who applied for an Irish passport since Brexit. It's easier because of the grandparent rule.
I don't know anyone who has applied for another EU passport, everyone I know entitled to one had it already.

I know a few who have gone to other countries' passports. It just comes across as if Britain can demand this and the Irish government will do as it's told - though I know that's not what's intended.

Anyway, the British government could ban dual passports, like other states. They'd almost certainly have to make an exception for people born in Northern Ireland, of course.

And I think people just writing about Irish passports as if they should be a reward for good behaviour are failing to understand why the Irish government has a reasonably expensive policy on passports. Apart from the NI situation, it reflects that fact that Ireland has a large diaspora and many people left unwillingly when the state couldn't provide for them. These people and their descendants are Irish. They've a right to Irish passports.

yorkshiretoffee · 23/11/2025 18:11

belleager · 23/11/2025 18:04

Why are we singling out Irish passports here, anyway?

I think a lot of people just know people who applied for an Irish passport since Brexit. It's easier because of the grandparent rule.
I don't know anyone who has applied for another EU passport, everyone I know entitled to one had it already.

belleager · 23/11/2025 18:04

Why are we singling out Irish passports here, anyway?

belleager · 23/11/2025 18:03

I presume there are many people qualified for Irish passports who voted for Brexit, still believe it was the right choice for Britain, and, being Irish, feel entitled to dual citizenship and the benefits it brings.

There is a lot of black and white thinking on this thread.

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/11/2025 15:17

LlynTegid · 23/11/2025 14:42

I would be a lot less critical of those who apply for Irish passports and voted for Brexit, if they acknowledged it was a mistake and none of the things they hoped for have been achieved.

Many Leave voters regret Brexit now.

Zov · 23/11/2025 15:05

YABVU. If they're entitled to one they should get one. As some posters have said, 'boo hoo, suck it up!' 😝

horseplay12 · 23/11/2025 15:03

No, they shouldn’t be allowed to - it’s totally hypocritical.

LlynTegid · 23/11/2025 14:42

I would be a lot less critical of those who apply for Irish passports and voted for Brexit, if they acknowledged it was a mistake and none of the things they hoped for have been achieved.

UnderTheStarryNight · 23/11/2025 14:36

How would you even police it?

ScreamingBeans · 23/11/2025 04:32

yorkshiretoffee · 19/11/2025 20:55

If you and others vote Reform because of snobbishness on mumsnet, there's not much anyone can say. Although I can't really see how it's going to help with that.
Brexiteers have to live here too (apart from the ones with Irish passports) and if it is going well for them, well then they've voted the right way for them. It hasn't gone well for me and I will continue to feel annoyed about it for quite a lot longer.

I'm not arguing with your right to be annoyed. I'm arguing with the disgusting tone of contempt for people who you think voted the wrong way, which is used to express that annoyance.

I haven't just seen annoyance on this thread. I've seen open, naked hatred. If you think stoking hatred of a significant proportion of the public is likely to lead long term to a really positive outcome, fill your boots. I have my doubts though.

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/11/2025 19:48

bignewprinz · 20/11/2025 12:14

Because they are embarrassed and a reminder of their stupidity makes them uncomfortable.

That makes sense.

KilliMonjaro · 20/11/2025 14:49

bignewprinz · 20/11/2025 12:14

Because they are embarrassed and a reminder of their stupidity makes them uncomfortable.

Twats.

bignewprinz · 20/11/2025 12:14

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/11/2025 11:47

Mnet posters should and will continue to talk about the disaster that was Brexit and the difficulties it continues to cause.

I don't understand why Brexiteers want us to shut up.Confused

Because they are embarrassed and a reminder of their stupidity makes them uncomfortable.

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/11/2025 11:47

Mnet posters should and will continue to talk about the disaster that was Brexit and the difficulties it continues to cause.

I don't understand why Brexiteers want us to shut up.Confused

Livelovebehappy · 20/11/2025 08:45

jeebiesheebies · 19/11/2025 17:52

Don’t you think that people are “still bringing it up years later” because it’s still having a huge negative impact and will for many years to come?
I will always, always be absolutely furious about Brexit.

Yes, obviously raise the issue if it still bothers you, but some are absolutely frothing at the mouth still, and I’m pointing out that it’s wasted energy as it’s done. I think we all know the strength of feeling on both sides, but maybe channel that anger into something that you can change.

Abhannmor · 19/11/2025 23:30

Millytante · 19/11/2025 14:42

Are we so concerned about British citizens moving here? I don’t think we are, in the least, and it’d be no new thing after all. I’d say we’ve a very harmonious coexistence, and that’s been the case for yonks.
We can get a bit salty about people who settle for 5 years in order to become naturalised citizens, expressly to feck orf into the wide blue yonder once they've the passport they needed.
That's seen as very poor form (and it’s contrary to the acceptance conditions of the acquired citizenship, by the way)

We get on very well with British blow ins hereabouts. There is one married couple who assured me that Brexit would not be a problem for us because ' Ireland will obviously have to leave the EU as well , now that Britain has gone.'

But they're definitely outliers. It's true as a PP says that Irish pensions are higher. But prices are higher too - although England is catching up fast ?