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AIBU to be so shaken and upset by this WhatsApp message from my ex-husband?

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Lilifer · 18/11/2025 14:46

Hi all,
I am looking for some outside perspective (and I maybe am BU for letting it affect me so much) because I feel shaken and upset after a message from my ex-H last night and I’m not sure whether to reply or leave it.

We are divorced and share five children together. Four are young adults now; only my youngest (17, nearly 18) call him John, still lives at home with me. I work full-time and also share care of my 87year-old mum, who lives 200 miles away. Because of a seizure this summer I’m currently not allowed to drive, so everything is trains, lifts, and juggling work/family/medical appointments. It’s been really difficult as I live rurally and public transport is not great here and I don’t have family support.

On Friday I had a neurologist appointment in the nearest city (about 75 minutes away by train). My 17yo drove me the 30 minutes to the station very early, so he wouldn’t miss any school. After the appointment I decided, since I was already most of the way there, and having checked with my son, that I’d continue down to my hometown via train to see my mum overnight. My son has been home on his own before, and he was absolutely fine about it. I came home the next day, again by two trains.

Last night, I sent my ex a friendly, perfectly polite WhatsApp. He and his partner are flying to Rome today to see one of our sons for his 21st. My sister is that son’s godmother and had a gift for him, so I asked my ex if he could take it over with him rather than risk the post. John was going over to his dad’s that evening, so I said I could give the present to him to pass on. Really straightforward, no drama, so I thought.

My ex is generally very difficult with me, quite bitter, and ignores most messages unless he wants something. So when I saw the first line of his reply pop up (“Thanks, I will deliver Anne’s present…”), I thought, oh, that’s unusually civil.

Then I opened the message properly and the rest of it felt like a kick in the stomach. This was his message:

“Thanks. I will deliver Anne’s present no bother at all.
I wanted to get in touch but wasn’t sure how to as I absolutely do not want you to say anything to John.
I was irritated and disappointed last Friday to be told down the street that not only was John home alone but that he had done a run to the train on a school day.
John is a great young fella and more than capable of looking after himself but I am curious to understand when things changed so that I am no longer informed when you are away??
If it was reversed I have no doubt you would be irritated.
I am also not happy with him driving to the train on a school day. Whilst I fully understand that you are not driving at the minute, I have no idea how much, if any, school he missed and I am sure he could do without missing more school with football, Skiing trip Maths Days & University Days already eating into Upper Sixth.
Had I been asked it is unlikely that I would have objected but I am not going to pretend that I am not annoyed about hearing all about it down town.
Let me know your thoughts and consider what you would think if the situation was reversed.”

I felt the tone was accusatory, condescending and borderline hostile, as if I’d been negligent or deceitful.

For context:
– There was absolutely nothing unsafe about the situation.
– Our son is nearly 18 and perfectly capable.
– He missed no school for me, he only drove me to the early train so that he wouldn’t miss school.
– He’d already agreed to me staying with my mum that night.
– The whole thing is a non-issue blown up into a moral lecture.

It hit me at 9.30pm, after a really long day at work, and it absolutely floored me emotionally. Communication with him always stresses me out, but this felt unnecessarily punitive and completely disproportionate. He could have asked a simple question; instead he delivered a long rant framed as “concern,” implying I’d done something inappropriate or irresponsible.

I don’t know whether to respond and clarify things calmly, reply but set a boundary, or just ignore it say nothing at all because it’s so condescending. He expects a level of behavior from me that he doesn’t hold himself to.

Has anyone dealt with an ex like this, someone who is mostly cold/ignoring, then suddenly pops up with a hostile lecture framed as “concern”? How do you handle it without letting it wreck your evening? I’m also feeling a bit fragile as am facing a likely epilepsy diagnosis and I feel I really can’t deal with this sort of stress from him right now 😔

Any advice appreciated.

OP posts:
Lilifer · 19/11/2025 09:27

Thanks all - to those asking why i didn’t just post the present myself , it wasn’t about saving postage, my sister is really generous and got him a pendant type thing, very small so easy to take in a case, but I wouldn’t want to post it becasue I have posted stuff to him before that has gotten lost in the post so I didn’t want to risk that, and I thought he would be obliging on that, which he was, but took the chance to have a go at me when responding.

i really have appreciated the advice and support here, clearly a lot of you have dealt with this sort of thing too and get it. To those who have never had this sort of person in their lives, you are very very lucky. They drain the goodness out of everything.

OP posts:
Fupoffyagrasshole · 19/11/2025 09:20

honestly OP just don't respond -in fact i wouldn't even send the present over either just post it as you don't want him feeling like hes done you any favors!

i'd just block temporarily and have a break from any communication with him!

MikeRafone · 19/11/2025 08:22

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 23:23

@rainbowsnackactually when I had my seizure last June, it happened just after lunch, and I had spent the morning in back and forth WhatsApp communication with ex husband as he was ranting to me about something financial related to do with one of the kids, I remember feeling extremely stressed and agitated by the messages as I was trying to work from home at the time, a couple of hours later I popped out to get something from the shops and whilst at the shops I had my first tonic clonic seizure. So I really need to get a grip on this, cbt or whatever, and limit my contact with him to e mail only.

From the outside looking in the stress that this man has caused you and is still causing you, please detach, grey rock and concentrate on looking after yourself - your children deserve a mother in their lives that is as fit and well as can be. No good shielding them from their father if you can't shield yourself from him

as for sending him photos etc and keeping him in the loop - he is old enough to keep himself in the loop.

You've kept things civil all these years but he hasn't worked on that one bit. just say hello and move on if you're in the same room - no need to ask how he is as youre not really interested.

ForCraftyWriter · 19/11/2025 07:57

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 15:05

@Itsseweasyits the first time I have asked my son to take me to the train before school, it only meant leaving the house at 7.45am, and I had no other way of making my train and my consultant appointment. John has stayed on his own both in my house and his dad’s for 2 nights before, so it’s not a once off, and he’s taking John out of school for an entire day next week to visit a uni in England, not on an open day either just on spec - which I don’t have an issue with actually but he never ran that past me, and he doesn’t seem concerned about a missed day at school so he just wanted an opportunity to have a pop at me, if his concern was genuine he could have picked up the phone or even messaged in a less patronising scolding way.

@Lilifer the problem which we can see but you can’t is that you’re still trying to justify yourself (to us). You don’t need to do that. Believe that you know how to parent, and that you are a good parent. Believe in yourself. Send him a thumbs up and delete his message so you can’t keep rereading .

Needlenardlenoo · 19/11/2025 07:51

DallazMajor · 19/11/2025 00:35

What a complete prick.

My ex sends me self righteous messages on the regular so I feel your pain.

I usually try and completely baffle him with my responses. He thinks I’m a lunatic so I don’t like to disappoint.

Just respond and ask him who he reckons is going to replace Tess and Claudia on Strictly.

This is inspired.

loveawineloveacrisp · 19/11/2025 06:40

I can't believe some of the replies saying this man is reasonable. You clearly don't have a controlling ex. The thing that enraged my ex the most was when I blocked him and stopped engaging. Blew his tiny little mind. Take back the power OP.

CocksBolingey · 19/11/2025 06:13

Fluffyholeysocks · 18/11/2025 14:51

I'd just give a breezy 'No need to worry, John didnt miss any school. I'll send the present over tonight, thanks for taking it'.

This! ⬆️

Misanthropologie · 19/11/2025 04:34

Ridiculous man.

plumclafoutis · 19/11/2025 04:32

I probably would have replied something along the lines of ‘John is soon to be 18 and is old enough for you to discuss any concerns with him. Thank you for taking Anne’s present.’

I left home at 17 and neither of my parents had a clue about what I was doing in my day to day life.

SpidersAreShitheads · 19/11/2025 04:19

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 19:46

I love that answer! Can I ask you for advice next time he fires a missile?? 😅

I would have been annoyed if he had left him alone when he was like 15 maybe but no, he’s stayed alone in both houses for up to two days and all was ok / in fact a couple years back I had booked a trip away for 3 night with the girls and given him several months notice that he was looking after John and his older brother (they were then 15 and 17) and then a week before I was going he informed me that he had been invited to a rugby international and of course just couldn’t miss out on that and said the boys could go back to my house for the nights he was away, at that stage there was fuck all I could do, I told him that was unfair of him when he was meant to be in charge but he’s always done what he wants, John was ok and he had his 17 year old brother with him but i couldn’t believe he would just renege of his responsibility like that when it suited him.

Haha - always happy to offer suggestions 😂💐

It is much easier looking in from the outside. My ex was a nasty, abusive man and for complicated reasons he was still on my mortgage. I sold the house fairly recently and needed his agreement for the sale. He knew my financial security was in his hands but luckily he also wanted to be off the mortgage. He was awful during the whole process, including turning up on moving day and insisting there was something in the loft (he’d had 15 years to collect it….). Left me hanging re whether he’d sign to complete. Total power plays throughout while trying to control me. Also kept making sleazy, explicit comments. Anyway, long story. Just to say I truly do sympathise and I know what it’s like.

Thank god John is nearly 18. Your ex sounds like a selfish, controlling pig.

I completely understand where some PP are coming from in telling him to get fucked but there are reasons to try and keep things amicable. Your DC wedding plans, graduations, grandchildren etc will be an absolute nightmare if you’re at each other’s throats.

He’ll find it infinitely more aggravating if you’re perfectly agreeable. Dropping the rope and refusing to let him provoke you gives you all of the power, while always giving him absolutely nothing he can use against you.

It doesn’t mean you’re a doormat; it’s about actively protecting your peace of mind (and your health) by steadfastly refusing to get drawn into his nonsense.

I hope this thread has helped you - you’ve got enough going on without giving Twat Ex any headspace 💐

Eaglemom · 19/11/2025 03:20

The Grey Rock technique is exactly for these kind of arseholes. Send the present yourself, the least you ask or hsve to do with him, the better.

Lila9 · 19/11/2025 02:57

Just ignore his message and don't waste your time thinking about it, he's not worth it.

MrsSmiff · 19/11/2025 02:15

Let Chat GPT write the response to him - it will be spot on. Don’t waste any time on this twit.

Cakeandusername · 19/11/2025 01:44

I’d either ignore or send the short breezy no school missed message.
I do agree with another poster why contact him at all. Your sister wanted to send a gift to your 21 year old. No need for you to get involved or contact ex. You aren’t dealing with a friend it’s not worth stress to save your sister a few pounds in postage.
Your son sounds like he is very mature and sensible. In 9 months he’ll be at uni and dad won’t have a clue what he’s up to.

TealSapphire · 19/11/2025 01:33

Ah, the ranting emails from an ex husband. Telling you off like you're a naughty girl. He's trying to upset you, and get you to justify yourself to him. You have three options to reply with:
👍
🤣
Too long didn't read. What do you want?

Or just ignore him altogether.

PurpleAxe · 19/11/2025 01:28

Don't reply at all.

Fuck him.

He only has the power you give him. So don't give him any. Let him rant into the void.

GaryLurcher19 · 19/11/2025 00:52

canklesmctacotits · 18/11/2025 14:59

I think your reaction probably reflects the stress you're under and past dealings with your ex. There's nothing in that message that suggests any of the things you're accusing him of saying. I would just clarify that no school was missed and move on.

Really? I find OP's XDH's message very interfering, judgemental and almost sinister. I suspect OP's reaction results from the stress she's under and her experience of this man.

feelingfree17 · 19/11/2025 00:51

Can absolutely understand how he is your ex.

BoyBoyBoy889 · 19/11/2025 00:44

I would expect to know that my under 18 son was home alone overnight, sorry.

And I don't understand why you would ask someone who is bitter and difficult for a favour, any favour, that was bound to go wrong and you just gave him an opportunity to have a go at you.

The thing about the lift to the train station is stupid but if it became a regular occurence, could be something to bring up as a concern indeed.

I didn't think the tone of the message was that bad but understand there is history and he's obviously prick.

Once your son is 18, just don't engage with him anymore.

Flippineck67 · 19/11/2025 00:43

Also, I wouldn't give him any power by asking him for favours (like the parcel) going forward.

Flippineck67 · 19/11/2025 00:41

I would grey rock him and not respond to this kind of message.

If he pushes for a response, just respond with 'ok'. Just don't rise to it. He's clearly looking for an argument so don't give him one.

This is still about control. Sounds like you made the right choice ditching him.

DallazMajor · 19/11/2025 00:35

What a complete prick.

My ex sends me self righteous messages on the regular so I feel your pain.

I usually try and completely baffle him with my responses. He thinks I’m a lunatic so I don’t like to disappoint.

Just respond and ask him who he reckons is going to replace Tess and Claudia on Strictly.

LemaxObsessive · 19/11/2025 00:31

MrsTerryPratchett · 18/11/2025 14:54

Exactly what I would have sent. 👍 speaks volumes.

Not to me it wouldn’t, I would take that as OP agreeing with me?

rainbowsnack · 19/11/2025 00:28

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 23:23

@rainbowsnackactually when I had my seizure last June, it happened just after lunch, and I had spent the morning in back and forth WhatsApp communication with ex husband as he was ranting to me about something financial related to do with one of the kids, I remember feeling extremely stressed and agitated by the messages as I was trying to work from home at the time, a couple of hours later I popped out to get something from the shops and whilst at the shops I had my first tonic clonic seizure. So I really need to get a grip on this, cbt or whatever, and limit my contact with him to e mail only.

Sending virtual hugs. I personally found CBT fairly useless but I'm also ND so that may be why lol.

Talking therapy has been a good shout for me and I've previously found EMDR useful. EFT had limited success, I wasn't totally sold on it BUT tapping did help to ground me a little bit. My biggest destressor has been music (and renovating with my DH has been great too, especially getting the plaster off the walls 😂)

mellicauli · 19/11/2025 00:22

He sounds really scary! I think I would just say whatever shit he wanted to hear you know to shut him up "OK, no offence intended, I'll be sure to loop you in next time." (But inexplicably I might just forget to tell him next time again).