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Adult dc protesting about friend coming for Xmas

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Blizzardofleaves · 18/11/2025 11:47

I am not sure what to make of this tbh. I have a friend ‘Shelia’ and she has recently separated from her dh, and he is taking her dc to his home country for Christmas. Shelia now finds herself at home alone for the whole of Christmas. She doesn’t have any living family.

My dc are away at uni and only arrive home two days before. They have exams in December, and are often very tired. They don’t know Sheila as she is a friend I have known for only 5/6 years and we tend to meet elsewhere, doing activities and dinner etc.

Last Christmas was a disaster, as my in laws got horribly drunk and the lunch was appalling - inedible. We all had Covid by Boxing Day. I had promised my dc a family Christmas this year at home.

I floated the idea of having Shelia come to lunch on Christmas Day and both have said no way. They don’t know her, and they want a lovely fuss free Christmas just the four of us.

I feel sorry for Shelia but understand it’s not my issue to solve, but I am a more the merrier type of person and love having people over.

They have put a line through Xmas Eve and Boxing Day as well, and it feels quite controlling now. But maybe I am being unreasonable, and not very considerate of dc and how tired they are likely to be. We are hosting family parties the weekend before (one dc can make it for those, the other can not)

Please share your thoughts.

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Blizzardofleaves · 19/11/2025 11:03

FoxyPickles · 19/11/2025 10:32

OP you sound quite defensive but if you had put the detail in your original post you wouldnt have got so many skewed answers.

You havent even clarified if Sheila even wants to do to Christmas dinner with another family- you dont even know if this is something she even wants! As far as we know, Sheila might be lonely as hell OR she might be absolutely fine having Christmas on her own and may well decline any invitation from you. It's all very nebulous.

I can’t go into much detail here but yes Christmas isn’t an easy time of year, so maybe you are picking up on that. I do want dc to have a lovely time this year, and Shelia would love an invite, and has dropped hints.

It was hard to laugh at the lack of food with sil hysterical in the kitchen and her dc falling on their dog. Maybe it was us just not seeing the funny side of Christmas…

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Notsurewhatisnormalanymore · 19/11/2025 10:47

InsanelySturdy · 19/11/2025 10:15

And the hyperbole. My uni kids would be able to get over a drunk turkey-free Xmas pretty quickly and not be traumatised for 12 months afterwards.

I must admit I did wonder when I saw this mentioned. My kids at that age would have still been pissing themselves a year later at being served undercooked turkey and people getting hammered. I suppose we’re all different but it’s hardly the end of the world. My daughter invited us for Christmas lunch one year and it was so comical, the time kept getting pushed back and back and back (by hours, she underestimated the work involved I think) and we were literally starving by the time we ate and the younger kids were saying every 5 minutes ‘we’re hungry.’. Me and my OH still laugh about it, it’s hardly the end of the world. Some people are more resilient (damaged 😂) than others.

FoxyPickles · 19/11/2025 10:32

OP you sound quite defensive but if you had put the detail in your original post you wouldnt have got so many skewed answers.

You havent even clarified if Sheila even wants to do to Christmas dinner with another family- you dont even know if this is something she even wants! As far as we know, Sheila might be lonely as hell OR she might be absolutely fine having Christmas on her own and may well decline any invitation from you. It's all very nebulous.

Itschristmaas · 19/11/2025 10:32

This would be a values thing for me. I’d invite my friend for Christmas lunch and tell the kids they have Xmas eve, xmas morning to lounge around but you will have guests.

I would just say this is who we are as a family - but then again we did invite a ukrainian refugee to stay despite the kids protestations and guess what it was fine and they got over it.

Blizzardofleaves · 19/11/2025 10:27

MiIkandJam · 19/11/2025 10:24

So why did you not mention gran died two years ago?

It wasn’t two years ago, that was an assumption and it didn’t seem relevant to this year, as this is about my dc asking for a quiet family Christmas and nothing to do with their grandmother. I was just highlighting the fact we have had some shocking Christmases in the past.

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WhatNoRaisins · 19/11/2025 10:26

Is it worth floating the idea of doing next year's Christmas a little differently? Maybe asking them if they'd like to bring a friend to Christmas dinner too. It sounds like this year isn't the right year but that doesn't mean it's something they couldn't get used to.

LAMPS1 · 19/11/2025 10:24

It’s not unreasonable at all to prioritise your dc especially under the circumstances and when you have already promised to do just that. It’s your prerogative to ask for advice and then make your own mind up. You know the situation best. There will always be posters who don’t agree and who want to argue their point.
Please don’t agonising over your friend who to whom you can dedicate your full attention and time, on an alternative date. Just let her know when you want to invite her and make it special. She no doubt needs her own recovery time with her own memories to help her heal. I’m sure it will be fine.

MiIkandJam · 19/11/2025 10:24

Blizzardofleaves · 19/11/2025 07:11

Thr thread has clarified this for me. Really weighing up everyone’s input and my dc’s position had really helped crystallise it.

Both dc are doing very demanding degrees (medicine) they are genuinely on their knees when they return. Both are fairly quiet, non drinkers and are studious and thoughtful. They are not fans of noisy drunken events, and I respect that of course. I would say they were kind and serious. Last year was the opposite of what they enjoy as people. They like healthy walks and good food. Time together at home. I don’t thinks it’s unreasonable.

So why did you not mention gran died two years ago?

Suednymph · 19/11/2025 10:23

Cherrytree86 · 19/11/2025 09:39

@Suednymph

your mother had friends? Wow, how did she not know that when you become a mother you can’t have friends or interests out of the family or hobbies or go to the gym…a mother needs to only have family time and concentrate solely on the kids. Kids come first always and forever.

My mother did not actually have friends she had people she used for personal gain and she would choose them over her kids every single time.

Blizzardofleaves · 19/11/2025 10:16

InsanelySturdy · 19/11/2025 10:15

And the hyperbole. My uni kids would be able to get over a drunk turkey-free Xmas pretty quickly and not be traumatised for 12 months afterwards.

They were disappointed, not ‘traumatised’ there is a world of difference between the two.

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hididdlyho · 19/11/2025 10:16

I would offer to meet Sheila on Christmas Eve/Boxing Day, the dog walk is a good idea. Maybe offer to take over some food if she's alone and not planning on going to too much trouble cooking.

I think you probably won't have too many more Christmases where both DC will both be home at the same time without partners, so I would respect that they don't want to spend Christmas Day with a stranger.

InsanelySturdy · 19/11/2025 10:15

nomas · 19/11/2025 10:13

How did OP's kids' father's drunk family and their inedible dinner become 'OP ruined their last Christmas'?

Does everything become the woman's fault in your eyes?

The misogyny is real.

Edited

And the hyperbole. My uni kids would be able to get over a drunk turkey-free Xmas pretty quickly and not be traumatised for 12 months afterwards.

InsanelySturdy · 19/11/2025 10:14

Everyone is free to do what they wish, and it’s fine to be with just family at Christmas if that’s what works. But accusing those who do choose to invite others on Xmas day, of virtue-signalling or seeking praise or being patronising is just odd. That bitter negative mindset is a symptom of how selfish people have become.

nomas · 19/11/2025 10:13

IAmBroke · 18/11/2025 16:31

Have you read OP’s update? She ruined their last Christmas and promised them a quiet one this year. OP has no obligation to this woman.

How did OP's kids' father's drunk family and their inedible dinner become 'OP ruined their last Christmas'?

Does everything become the woman's fault in your eyes?

The misogyny is real.

madameimadam · 19/11/2025 10:08

Good lord. Isn’t this what Christmas is about?!! I don’t get not inviting someone on their own at all!!

My family Christmasses as a teen then adult often included someone who would have been otherwise alone: a neighbour who literally had no family, a friend of my aunts who was having a difficult time, one year a foreign student friend of mine who couldn’t afford to get back home. My parents extended the invitation to anyone and couldn’t bear the thought of someone being unhappily alone. It wouldn’t even have entered my head to kick up a stink about it!!

Im not saying they rocked up at 7am to do the pressie-opening-in-pyjamas bit but I could never begrudge someone joining us for Christmas lunch and maybe a walk afterwards.

Goodwill to all men and all that…

Blizzardofleaves · 19/11/2025 10:08

BoudiccaRuled · 19/11/2025 09:57

Studying medicine needs recovering from because of the huge amounts of partying. If they are that shattered just from studying, with no drinking, I'll eat my hat.

🧢 lunch time!

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Blizzardofleaves · 19/11/2025 10:06

sittingonabeach · 19/11/2025 10:02

The OP says they don't drink, but does say they will be tired at Christmas due to studying and the number of parties

Why would you assume that today’s students can’t simply attend parties without drinking? You would be amazed at the number of students that do not drink. I’m surprised you don’t know this.

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sittingonabeach · 19/11/2025 10:02

The OP says they don't drink, but does say they will be tired at Christmas due to studying and the number of parties

InsanelySturdy · 19/11/2025 09:58

IAmBroke · 19/11/2025 07:52

Oh give over.

You sound like a horrible mum. You’ve made your children sound selfish and entitled so that everyone could back you up and praise you for wanting to take Sheila in, just to turn around and explain why your children are so against it. I suggest you take a look in the mirror and decide if this is the type of person you want to be.

I think the only person coming across as unpleasant is you.

Unable to control yourself out of fear of being banned. Accusing people being kind of seeking praise. Telling the OP she is a bad mum. What made you so bitter, unregulated and unhappy? What has triggered you here?

BoudiccaRuled · 19/11/2025 09:57

IAmBroke · 19/11/2025 08:08

She literally says they don’t party.

Their grandmother died on Christmas Day. It’s a double whammy of it being the anniversary and one of the hardest celebrations when you’re grieving.

Add into that that they went to their aunt’s house last year, they were served raw turkey and they just wanted a quiet Christmas after exams. That’s fair enough.

Don’t choke on your halo, though.

Studying medicine needs recovering from because of the huge amounts of partying. If they are that shattered just from studying, with no drinking, I'll eat my hat.

InsanelySturdy · 19/11/2025 09:56

TheaBrandt1 · 19/11/2025 07:50

I agree with the compromise plans invite her at a time that won’t affect them. I think inviting her for Christmas proper is too much.

As an aside all this “PJs” talk I find really weird! Wearing pyjamas for the whole of Christmas Day?! We dress up can’t imagine wearing nightwear like I was ill or something

People on MN revel staying in their ‘jammies’ 🤢 and love not having to dress themselves. I think it’s the highlight of their Christmas!

Cherrytree86 · 19/11/2025 09:39

Suednymph · 18/11/2025 21:00

Put your kids first. You sound like my mother who always put everyone else before her kids. Now none of us talk to her. Sheila is a grown adult. Put your children first.

@Suednymph

your mother had friends? Wow, how did she not know that when you become a mother you can’t have friends or interests out of the family or hobbies or go to the gym…a mother needs to only have family time and concentrate solely on the kids. Kids come first always and forever.

Giraffemug30 · 19/11/2025 09:27

IAmBroke · 19/11/2025 08:08

She literally says they don’t party.

Their grandmother died on Christmas Day. It’s a double whammy of it being the anniversary and one of the hardest celebrations when you’re grieving.

Add into that that they went to their aunt’s house last year, they were served raw turkey and they just wanted a quiet Christmas after exams. That’s fair enough.

Don’t choke on your halo, though.

But they can still have a quiet Xmas, with Sheila.

They are intelligent adults, a bit of raw turkey and some drunken people is frustrating but hardly devastating or traumatic. And their aunt was obviously struggling mentally

Sheila may or may not want to come but one adult guest does not change Xmas drastically. It doesn't prevent them doing anything they have requested of their Xmas and may massively help a woman who's had a really difficult year

Medicine exams are not that difficult and don't need days to recover from. They are going to have harder exams in their career! OP said they don't drink not that they don't party

TwinkleTwinkleLittleBatgirl · 19/11/2025 09:23

RubySquid · 19/11/2025 08:37

Yeah my DN is in year 2 of medical degree at imperial college. Managed to work and travel during the holidays. She wouldn't claim to be so exhausted that she's needing to be run around after for the holidays and everything done for her benefit

Who’s claiming theyre exhausted and demanding to be run around after?

wfhwfh · 19/11/2025 09:22

As someone who has spent Christmas alone a few times now, actual day itself is fine - you can have some nice food, go on a walk, enjoy a special programme or book. The hard part is often the days around it so i think OP’s plans of arranging something with Sheila for boxing day, etc are good.

Of all the PP’s badmouthing OP’s children and calling them selfish, etc - Have you experienced both being a student on a demanding course AND spending the Christmas period alone? I have (obviously the former in much earlier life) and my sympathies are still with the DC at uni.

I think this may be a situation of introverts v extroverts as to which scenario you find worse. An introvert does NOT find the prospect of Christmas alone awful. Its maybe tough the first time (especially if its a bereavement scenario) - but its arguably a rite-of-passage of being an adult that we should all be prepared to face it at some point.