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And he showed up unannounced ... after I tried to help him.

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MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 18:42

This is the first thread I have created, so be gentle, ha.

Okay, I saw a post on Facebook from a neighbour I did not know at all, saying how lonely he was since the death of his wife six weeks ago. Lots of people were saying nice things but I know, having suffered many deaths, that what he probably needed was company and a mind diversion for a few hours.

I said he was welcome for a cuppa at mine, stressing it would be friends only, that I am not looking for a relationship at all (and I hoped that as he was only six weeks bereaved, finding someone else would not be on his mind).

He came over the next day, and spent a massive eight hours here, by which time I was way past my work start time but as I am self-employed and we were getting on great and with many interests in common, I didn't make an issue of it.

After he left, I very quickly received a message asking, 'Please please, can we do that again as soon as possible?' and by the next morning, a message saying, 'I am waiting like a kid at Christmas for your reply!'

He also told me he was going to be working next door to me on the Monday morning, obviously dropping this news into the chat so I could say, 'Why don't you pop in?' Of course, I did not say that or give any encouragement, from which he should have deduced I wasn't into the idea of meeting again so soon.

I also had the feeling he had somehow 'engineered' the work next door to me as he never mentioned that during the Saturday meet-up.

The first time I had seen him was on the Saturday, when he'd arrived at 1pm and left at half past nine in the evening. Bit long for a cup of tea!

I reponded to his messages without showing the same ardour (the ardent messaging was already giving me the heebie jeebies, giving vibes that he saw me as more than a friend) but I said we could meet up again when I was next free, but that he should be aware I worked a lot.

I stressed I'd let him know when I was off work, and that we could go out and do an activity. I again stressed 'It is nice to meet local friends.'

Incidentally, I really do work a lot, usually around 12-14 hours a day, each day, except Saturdays when normally, I go out with an archaeology group. After that, I always work through on the Saturday night/Sunday morn to catch up.

I also told him that I was about to work an all-nighter from Sunday eve to Monday morning, and that on Monday, I was going to be out on a job all night so needed to catch up on sleep between Sunday night and Monday daytime.

Anyway!

It came to half past nine this morning and there were a few knocks on the door. I had expected it to be a parcel delivery so I answered. AAAAGH! There he was, standing hopping foot to foot, waiting to be invited in!

I was bloody angry and said I had just worked nights and he'd woken me up, which was true, and I'd dragged myself from bed looking like Worzel Gummidge. I must have looked both horrific and horrified!

He was waving two coffees about, which he'd bought at a local garage. I don't even drink coffee and said so, then that I had to go as I needed sleep because I am tonight working all night on a difficult task just as I'd told him. And I closed the door on him.

I was both mortified and embarrassed that he'd put me in that position. What a $$$$ing idiot!

To top it off, I checked the members' names, and he has gone and joined the same club I am a member of, where we go out on Saturdays. So now, I have to expect him to show up there as well. He actually was a member of it two years ago before I joined, and he did not like it. The first thing he told me was how bad it was, trying to get me to opt out of it.

I am in two minds about whether I should message the organiser and ask them to boot him out as he only rejoined the minute after leaving here on the Saturday night!

That's the last time I feel sorry for a bereaved male neighbour which is a shame. I have several male friends who don't behave like this and have never shown up at the door. They wouldn't dream of it!

AIBU to have no tolerance for him showing up like that, and to not contact him again despite his messages still coming on Facebook?

I feel sad that he's lost his wife but it doesn't give him a ticket to stalkerish, creepy behaviour. It's even worse that we have a few good friends in common, and I wonder if he will try to blacken my name for not continuing with the contact.

Having seen how he tried to get me to opt out of the club I am a member of, I would not be surprised.

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researchers3 · 17/11/2025 22:52

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 18:58

I don't know. In life in general, I find people a lot more wary than I am and at the grand age of 60, this is the first time anyone has behaved like him.

We are all neighbours too, on a small development where we all chat on WhatsApp daily about the development. So although I have not spoken 1-1 to him, I think asking a bereaved person in our small close over for a cuppa is just normal.

It's his behaviour that is very weird!

Agreed. You stated very clearly your intentions so it's completely on him.

God, how disrespectful he is to her memory and how awful of him to be latching on to any woman who shows a bit of friendly concern.

I guess grief does funny thing to people and I shouldn't judge that perhaps.

BatshitOutofHell · 17/11/2025 22:49

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 17/11/2025 18:47

Oh dear. This is literally why I am an antisocial bitch until I get the measure of someone.

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Same.

These days kindness gets you nowhere because people are so unused to it that they don't really know how to handle it.

seafoamhair · 17/11/2025 22:48

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 22:03

That is daft. Inviting a neighbour to a cup of tea is hardly naive. I do not know why it is that on Mumsnet, every thread starts off sensibly and gets derailed by people who see men as a threat.

There's nothing threatening here.

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He's trampled all over any normal social constructs for an invitation for a cup of tea by staying more than an hour or so, and you let him, turned up unannounced when he has been told you would be sleeping, amped up the interest level in you to an uncomfortable degree - is clearly an obsessed needy clinger wanting more and thinking he will get it, whether that's sex, marriage, or a suffocatingly needy pseudofriendship, regardless of your stated lack of interest in such things. I call that dangerous. Men who behave like this often do become more than just nuisances. And I do think you have been absurdly naive.

WearyAuldWumman · 17/11/2025 22:48

I know that there are some lovely widowers out there, but I tend to avoid them.

I was widowed nearly 5 years ago and the old creep across the road from me even hit on me before my husband died.

I just avoid him now.

Happyjoe · 17/11/2025 22:47

Please don't do anything because you feel sorry for him..
Other than that, no. No respect for boundaries, he's too much and totally the sort that you give an inch, he'll take a mile. I expect to that he doesn't do hints either, so be strong and firm.

ProudWomanXX · 17/11/2025 22:13

Hysterectomynext · 17/11/2025 22:12

Exactly. And a stranger too. And first of all talking about romantic angle.

Totally

SergeantWrinkles · 17/11/2025 22:12

🤔

Hysterectomynext · 17/11/2025 22:12

ProudWomanXX · 17/11/2025 22:11

Inviting a neighbour over for a cup of tea is not an 8 hour session
He trampled all over any boundaries you might have put up

Exactly. And a stranger too. And first of all talking about romantic angle.

ProudWomanXX · 17/11/2025 22:11

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 22:03

That is daft. Inviting a neighbour to a cup of tea is hardly naive. I do not know why it is that on Mumsnet, every thread starts off sensibly and gets derailed by people who see men as a threat.

There's nothing threatening here.

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Inviting a neighbour over for a cup of tea is not an 8 hour session
He trampled all over any boundaries you might have put up

Hysterectomynext · 17/11/2025 22:09

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 22:03

That is daft. Inviting a neighbour to a cup of tea is hardly naive. I do not know why it is that on Mumsnet, every thread starts off sensibly and gets derailed by people who see men as a threat.

There's nothing threatening here.

Edited

I don’t think it started sensibly though.

you’ve said in your updates that you were enjoying the time with him in your home and that time went by quickly because of how well you got on.

now after that he’s taken the chance of coming by with two coffees in the hope of another get together. And this part you’re appalled and angered by. I think he’s been confused. He clearly likes you and hoped you enjoyed his company too. Which you did.

this is why I say it’s dangerous to have invited him in. It’s too personal.

I don’t mean to victim blame here- I’m saying this because I’ve made lots of stupid mistakes like this before. I’m very kind too. But you need to learn to protect yourself.

ProudWomanXX · 17/11/2025 22:09

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 22:03

That is daft. Inviting a neighbour to a cup of tea is hardly naive. I do not know why it is that on Mumsnet, every thread starts off sensibly and gets derailed by people who see men as a threat.

There's nothing threatening here.

Edited

Really? You think so?
I'm glad you've apparently had a life where no man has ever threatened or manipulated you.

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 22:03

ProudWomanXX · 17/11/2025 22:01

Given your background, I'm astonished you would have sent a message like that to this so very recent widower?
I'm honestly not trying to victim blame, but really?
Such nievity!

That is daft. Inviting a neighbour to a cup of tea is hardly naive. I do not know why it is that on Mumsnet, every thread starts off sensibly and gets derailed by people who see men as a threat.

There's nothing threatening here.

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MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 22:02

ReadingSoManyThreads · 17/11/2025 22:00

Well I'm very allergic to mosquito bites, so that's pretty threatening in my book 😆😂

That is actually true! I once slept on the floor in a historic house and ended up with massive swollen spider bites. Maybe he is dangerous after all!

I have mozzies in the house, they are a bloomin' nuisance. They come through the air vents. (Blocking up vents now in case he slides through!).

I rather suspect he is a bit scared of me now.

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ProudWomanXX · 17/11/2025 22:01

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 21:26

Thank you! I am a book editor and ghostwriter in the day, surveillance contractor by night nowadays.

I used to work in close protection until the income from book editing and ghostwriting became a better way to fund most of my outgoings.

Given your background, I'm astonished you would have sent a message like that to this so very recent widower?
I'm honestly not trying to victim blame, but really?
Such nievity!

Hysterectomynext · 17/11/2025 22:00

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 21:59

Also, we have a close friend in common. I do not think he would have any intention to alienate everyone by being stupid. It was one of those times, I think, where he just acted impulsively but he is about as threatening as an insect.

Hopefully not funnel web spider

ReadingSoManyThreads · 17/11/2025 22:00

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 21:59

Also, we have a close friend in common. I do not think he would have any intention to alienate everyone by being stupid. It was one of those times, I think, where he just acted impulsively but he is about as threatening as an insect.

Well I'm very allergic to mosquito bites, so that's pretty threatening in my book 😆😂

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 21:59

Also, we have a close friend in common. I do not think he would have any intention to alienate everyone by being stupid. It was one of those times, I think, where he just acted impulsively but he is about as threatening as an insect.

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MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 21:57

Hysterectomynext · 17/11/2025 21:51

I strongly disagree. You’ve invited a strange man into your home. And allowed him to stay for 8 hours. Very risky. A tradesman would have a clear purpose for being in your home. This is completely different.

He is a neighbour known to a lot of people here. There is no risk, only that he became a bit carried away afterwards! I work with men and train men. He wasn't any threat but is an over-zealous twit.

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MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 21:56

Hysterectomynext · 17/11/2025 21:49

I think the fact that you initially suggested the romantic angle was a mistake. Although you were mentioning it because you didn’t want him to have the idea, by doing that you’ve put the idea in his mind.
it’s kind of like a joke thing I’d say with friends- so if a male friend said shall we go for coffee? And I said yes but I don’t want you to get ideas because I don’t want a relationship- it’s kind of a joke because who would even be thinking that?

It's possible he had that feeling but he was a perfect gent during the eight hours. Nothing to make me uncomfortable or on guard at all, nothing to hint at him taking it that I was interested.

Not even any questions about if I was single, what do I do in my spare time and all that tedious dating stuff that I can't stand.

I think he is just a prat who after we had separated, didn't put his brain in gear.

I do not get any sense of potential harm or threat from him aside from the risk that he makes up a story to counter how badly he's behaved today, in case I tell our mutual friends. He's like an annoying wasp.

I was just interested to see if people thought I'd be unfair/unreasonable to just ignore him now and to give him the message he is no longer welcome.

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youalright · 17/11/2025 21:56

I've cut so many people out of my life for this sort of crap.

Hysterectomynext · 17/11/2025 21:51

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 21:46

It wasn't in the slightest bit dangerous. Only as risk-bearing as allowing any contractor in!

I strongly disagree. You’ve invited a strange man into your home. And allowed him to stay for 8 hours. Very risky. A tradesman would have a clear purpose for being in your home. This is completely different.

Hysterectomynext · 17/11/2025 21:49

I think the fact that you initially suggested the romantic angle was a mistake. Although you were mentioning it because you didn’t want him to have the idea, by doing that you’ve put the idea in his mind.
it’s kind of like a joke thing I’d say with friends- so if a male friend said shall we go for coffee? And I said yes but I don’t want you to get ideas because I don’t want a relationship- it’s kind of a joke because who would even be thinking that?

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 21:46

Hysterectomynext · 17/11/2025 21:44

It’s madness to invite a strange man into your home and then to let him stay for 8 hours.

you really need to have a bit more sense about you. You can be friendly and supportive without putting yourself in this vulnerable position.

he’s misunderstood your actions. That part is not your fault. But the reality is it’s bloody dangerous to have invited him in. As you’re finding out. That’s a bloody awful situation you’re in now. Keep your wits about you from now on and get some people from your group onboard so they can help you if needed.

It wasn't in the slightest bit dangerous. Only as risk-bearing as allowing any contractor in!

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MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 21:45

Zanzara · 17/11/2025 21:43

This is surely an occasion, if ever there was one, when the immortal MN phrase, "Off you pop, Cuntychops!" could be usefully employed?

(Runs off to wash mouth out with soap)

I will try that if he reappears! Made me chuckle ... But he may find the word 'cunty' a turn-on! Especially when combined with 'chops.' He would imagine getting his mouth around one.

Ugh!

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Hysterectomynext · 17/11/2025 21:44

It’s madness to invite a strange man into your home and then to let him stay for 8 hours.

you really need to have a bit more sense about you. You can be friendly and supportive without putting yourself in this vulnerable position.

he’s misunderstood your actions. That part is not your fault. But the reality is it’s bloody dangerous to have invited him in. As you’re finding out. That’s a bloody awful situation you’re in now. Keep your wits about you from now on and get some people from your group onboard so they can help you if needed.

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