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And he showed up unannounced ... after I tried to help him.

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MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 18:42

This is the first thread I have created, so be gentle, ha.

Okay, I saw a post on Facebook from a neighbour I did not know at all, saying how lonely he was since the death of his wife six weeks ago. Lots of people were saying nice things but I know, having suffered many deaths, that what he probably needed was company and a mind diversion for a few hours.

I said he was welcome for a cuppa at mine, stressing it would be friends only, that I am not looking for a relationship at all (and I hoped that as he was only six weeks bereaved, finding someone else would not be on his mind).

He came over the next day, and spent a massive eight hours here, by which time I was way past my work start time but as I am self-employed and we were getting on great and with many interests in common, I didn't make an issue of it.

After he left, I very quickly received a message asking, 'Please please, can we do that again as soon as possible?' and by the next morning, a message saying, 'I am waiting like a kid at Christmas for your reply!'

He also told me he was going to be working next door to me on the Monday morning, obviously dropping this news into the chat so I could say, 'Why don't you pop in?' Of course, I did not say that or give any encouragement, from which he should have deduced I wasn't into the idea of meeting again so soon.

I also had the feeling he had somehow 'engineered' the work next door to me as he never mentioned that during the Saturday meet-up.

The first time I had seen him was on the Saturday, when he'd arrived at 1pm and left at half past nine in the evening. Bit long for a cup of tea!

I reponded to his messages without showing the same ardour (the ardent messaging was already giving me the heebie jeebies, giving vibes that he saw me as more than a friend) but I said we could meet up again when I was next free, but that he should be aware I worked a lot.

I stressed I'd let him know when I was off work, and that we could go out and do an activity. I again stressed 'It is nice to meet local friends.'

Incidentally, I really do work a lot, usually around 12-14 hours a day, each day, except Saturdays when normally, I go out with an archaeology group. After that, I always work through on the Saturday night/Sunday morn to catch up.

I also told him that I was about to work an all-nighter from Sunday eve to Monday morning, and that on Monday, I was going to be out on a job all night so needed to catch up on sleep between Sunday night and Monday daytime.

Anyway!

It came to half past nine this morning and there were a few knocks on the door. I had expected it to be a parcel delivery so I answered. AAAAGH! There he was, standing hopping foot to foot, waiting to be invited in!

I was bloody angry and said I had just worked nights and he'd woken me up, which was true, and I'd dragged myself from bed looking like Worzel Gummidge. I must have looked both horrific and horrified!

He was waving two coffees about, which he'd bought at a local garage. I don't even drink coffee and said so, then that I had to go as I needed sleep because I am tonight working all night on a difficult task just as I'd told him. And I closed the door on him.

I was both mortified and embarrassed that he'd put me in that position. What a $$$$ing idiot!

To top it off, I checked the members' names, and he has gone and joined the same club I am a member of, where we go out on Saturdays. So now, I have to expect him to show up there as well. He actually was a member of it two years ago before I joined, and he did not like it. The first thing he told me was how bad it was, trying to get me to opt out of it.

I am in two minds about whether I should message the organiser and ask them to boot him out as he only rejoined the minute after leaving here on the Saturday night!

That's the last time I feel sorry for a bereaved male neighbour which is a shame. I have several male friends who don't behave like this and have never shown up at the door. They wouldn't dream of it!

AIBU to have no tolerance for him showing up like that, and to not contact him again despite his messages still coming on Facebook?

I feel sad that he's lost his wife but it doesn't give him a ticket to stalkerish, creepy behaviour. It's even worse that we have a few good friends in common, and I wonder if he will try to blacken my name for not continuing with the contact.

Having seen how he tried to get me to opt out of the club I am a member of, I would not be surprised.

OP posts:
Pedallleur · 18/11/2025 06:33

Littlejellyuk · 18/11/2025 00:43

Oh my god I want to wash my eyes out with fairy liquid after reading that part about the dead wife's knickers 😭 🧼 🤢

the good news is he wasn't wearing them! But even so....

Summerhillsquare · 18/11/2025 06:02

ProudWomanXX · 17/11/2025 22:01

Given your background, I'm astonished you would have sent a message like that to this so very recent widower?
I'm honestly not trying to victim blame, but really?
Such nievity!

You've overlooked the creative writing angle.

I've read as far as this with rising incredulity 😂

Nandina · 18/11/2025 06:01

You were unreasonable to have anything to do with a man who used the word 'cuddles'.

Roselily123 · 18/11/2025 04:40

shuggles · 17/11/2025 23:12

@MungoforPresident There's no issue with pushing someone away if you need time and space for yourself.

What many people don't realise is that men are far more emotional than women. Men fall in love very easily, and feel love very intensely. Men are desperate to find relationships and to have someone to keep them company. Men are hurt far more by heartbreak. Unfortunately, this is the reason why so many men may exhibit desperate and clingy behaviour, when not being mindful of how women might perceive them.

I actually would agree with this … no need to put up with this man’s behaviour though

DizzyDucklings · 18/11/2025 03:55

Sorry OP. This is what you get from responding to a stranger on the internet professing his loneliness to the world….

abracadabra1980 · 18/11/2025 03:10

101Alsatians · 17/11/2025 18:53

You let a stranger that you 'didn't know at all' into your house and for such a huge chunk of time?

You sound very kind but you've been a bit daft.

Agree - EIGHT hours is just unbelievable, even in such a sad scenario. I’d have made my excuses after 80 minutes. You’ve given far too much of yourself to this thick skinned man in that time alone.

BeanQuisine · 18/11/2025 02:32

Something a bit odd about this one. It's the initial eight hour cuppa, "getting on great and with many interests in common", I don't understand.

It's no wonder he thought you were keen and must have been confused indeed by the change in tone.

Youtoldmeonce · 18/11/2025 01:55

This is why I prefer to visit friends so I can leave when I’m ready (usually a quick cup of tea) , rather than them come to me and over stay their welcome.

Cornishclio · 18/11/2025 01:45

Men don’t seem to do well on their own even recently widowed ones. I can see the invite came from a kind place but I wouldn’t have invited a stranger over and certainly not let him stay for 8 hours. That is ridiculous. Just make it clear from now on you aren’t interested in being any more than friends and no more tea/coffee invites.

SplendidUtterly · 18/11/2025 01:30

Sadly, a lot of men mistake an act of kindness for something else.

My DM is a few years older than you OP and in the last 3 years this has happened twice to her. Once with a man whose DM had died and another man she worked with who had lost his family due to his alcohol addiction (she'd took pity on him). Both ended up smitten and turning up unexpectedly for a "cuppa" aka foot in the door, going in for a unwanted kiss type.
😡

Littlejellyuk · 18/11/2025 01:30

Empress13 · 18/11/2025 01:06

You led him on OP who on earth entertains a neighbour for 9 hours ! Bizarre

How did she lead him on? 🤔

Empress13 · 18/11/2025 01:06

You led him on OP who on earth entertains a neighbour for 9 hours ! Bizarre

Littlejellyuk · 18/11/2025 01:05

Happyjoe · 17/11/2025 23:00

My dad got engaged to a neighbour 3 months after mum died. What made matters worse is she had the same name as my mum! My dad was not someone who could stand to be alone, but god, it was awful, but not as awful as when he phoned me up, stressed, to tell me he couldn't get it up and where could he get viagra. I am so not joking.. I tactfully said that perhaps it's because mum just died and his 'grieving' was stopping him. Never did like my dad much! 😁

Fucking hell viagra!?! 😳 🔷️ 😭 🤢 🤦‍♀️

JFDIYOLO · 18/11/2025 01:00

A friend in need is a ... Pest.

Littlejellyuk · 18/11/2025 00:43

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 17/11/2025 23:31

Wasn't there a thread on here recently where a woman in her 50s was nice to the old bloke (80s) next door, he had just been widowed and she liked his wife and she went over for a chat because "he must be lonely". And the next day, he came to her door with a pair of his wife's knickers and said she should wear them when she came over and they'd have some fun 😬 😬 😬

My stepfather was also dating within 6 weeks of my mother's funeral. It felt really off and disrespectful and I've never looked at him the same since.

Oh my god I want to wash my eyes out with fairy liquid after reading that part about the dead wife's knickers 😭 🧼 🤢

Francestein · 18/11/2025 00:27

Someone on here equated the way a lot of men see their long term partner as an appliance. Like a washing machine, I think. The old one’s dead, I need another one. Immediately gets a new washing machine. This guy is looking for a new washing machine and is well and is trying to create a situation where you feel obliged to do his laundry. (Analogy of course, but probably also literal.)

Friendlygingercat · 18/11/2025 00:16

Get a ring type doorbell which will enable you to monitor who is at the door. Then you dont have to answer if you dont want to. Or you can answer, tell them you are on the app and away from home. Ooooooh you are breaking up ........

My grandmother was a past mistress at getting rid of overstay visitors. She had a clock which did full Westminster chimes on the hour and half hour. When it chimed she would jump up in mock surprise and exclaim "Goodness, is that the time? I really must get on now. Thank you for your visit. I will see you out.!" And she would bring their coat or hold open the door. Even relatives were booted out after a maximum of two hours. No one ever argued with my grandmother.

Okthenguys · 18/11/2025 00:16

YABU to invite a total stranger into your house then allow him to stay for 8 hrs.

Littlejellyuk · 18/11/2025 00:06

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 18:42

This is the first thread I have created, so be gentle, ha.

Okay, I saw a post on Facebook from a neighbour I did not know at all, saying how lonely he was since the death of his wife six weeks ago. Lots of people were saying nice things but I know, having suffered many deaths, that what he probably needed was company and a mind diversion for a few hours.

I said he was welcome for a cuppa at mine, stressing it would be friends only, that I am not looking for a relationship at all (and I hoped that as he was only six weeks bereaved, finding someone else would not be on his mind).

He came over the next day, and spent a massive eight hours here, by which time I was way past my work start time but as I am self-employed and we were getting on great and with many interests in common, I didn't make an issue of it.

After he left, I very quickly received a message asking, 'Please please, can we do that again as soon as possible?' and by the next morning, a message saying, 'I am waiting like a kid at Christmas for your reply!'

He also told me he was going to be working next door to me on the Monday morning, obviously dropping this news into the chat so I could say, 'Why don't you pop in?' Of course, I did not say that or give any encouragement, from which he should have deduced I wasn't into the idea of meeting again so soon.

I also had the feeling he had somehow 'engineered' the work next door to me as he never mentioned that during the Saturday meet-up.

The first time I had seen him was on the Saturday, when he'd arrived at 1pm and left at half past nine in the evening. Bit long for a cup of tea!

I reponded to his messages without showing the same ardour (the ardent messaging was already giving me the heebie jeebies, giving vibes that he saw me as more than a friend) but I said we could meet up again when I was next free, but that he should be aware I worked a lot.

I stressed I'd let him know when I was off work, and that we could go out and do an activity. I again stressed 'It is nice to meet local friends.'

Incidentally, I really do work a lot, usually around 12-14 hours a day, each day, except Saturdays when normally, I go out with an archaeology group. After that, I always work through on the Saturday night/Sunday morn to catch up.

I also told him that I was about to work an all-nighter from Sunday eve to Monday morning, and that on Monday, I was going to be out on a job all night so needed to catch up on sleep between Sunday night and Monday daytime.

Anyway!

It came to half past nine this morning and there were a few knocks on the door. I had expected it to be a parcel delivery so I answered. AAAAGH! There he was, standing hopping foot to foot, waiting to be invited in!

I was bloody angry and said I had just worked nights and he'd woken me up, which was true, and I'd dragged myself from bed looking like Worzel Gummidge. I must have looked both horrific and horrified!

He was waving two coffees about, which he'd bought at a local garage. I don't even drink coffee and said so, then that I had to go as I needed sleep because I am tonight working all night on a difficult task just as I'd told him. And I closed the door on him.

I was both mortified and embarrassed that he'd put me in that position. What a $$$$ing idiot!

To top it off, I checked the members' names, and he has gone and joined the same club I am a member of, where we go out on Saturdays. So now, I have to expect him to show up there as well. He actually was a member of it two years ago before I joined, and he did not like it. The first thing he told me was how bad it was, trying to get me to opt out of it.

I am in two minds about whether I should message the organiser and ask them to boot him out as he only rejoined the minute after leaving here on the Saturday night!

That's the last time I feel sorry for a bereaved male neighbour which is a shame. I have several male friends who don't behave like this and have never shown up at the door. They wouldn't dream of it!

AIBU to have no tolerance for him showing up like that, and to not contact him again despite his messages still coming on Facebook?

I feel sad that he's lost his wife but it doesn't give him a ticket to stalkerish, creepy behaviour. It's even worse that we have a few good friends in common, and I wonder if he will try to blacken my name for not continuing with the contact.

Having seen how he tried to get me to opt out of the club I am a member of, I would not be surprised.

Just told my hubby about this. He said some men want attention, and can be thick and mistake kindness for an invitation /flirting, as they want more attention. 🤦‍♀️
His advice?

  1. Be straight and tell him you are not fucking interested.
  2. Dont sugarcoat it, as these types of men do not understand subtlety or hints.
  3. If that fails and he still thinks you're keen tell him you are a lesbian or to royally fuck off.

😆 🤣 😂

AI has also confirmed what my hubby said....
Men may mistake kindness for flirting , where they are more likely to interpret friendliness as a sign of romantic interest. This bias is likely influenced by factors such as low self-esteem, desperation, and a lack of exposure to non-transactional kindness, which can lead to miscommunication and frustration. It's important for individuals to be aware of this bias and to clearly communicate intentions to avoid misunderstandings.

BakedBeing · 17/11/2025 23:55

101Alsatians · 17/11/2025 18:53

You let a stranger that you 'didn't know at all' into your house and for such a huge chunk of time?

You sound very kind but you've been a bit daft.

No, it’s not her fault.

Littlejellyuk · 17/11/2025 23:37

WiddlinDiddlin · 17/11/2025 19:03

I would speak to some of the people you mutually know, and say:

'I've ballsed up here, I was just trying to be kind and now he's like a fucking limpet - I don't want to upset him but I do only have the odd half an hour free each week for a brew... you know him, what would you say?'

That way you're getting in there first with that side of things.

If you bump into him at the club, treat him like everyone else and if he angles for an invite to yours after you can tell him, ideally in front of others, that you're very busy as you've used up all your spare time recently and need to get on.

I don't know why you didn't boot him out after an hour the first time, look at your watch 'gosh is that the time, I have an online meeting in 10 minutes... off you pop, take these biscuits I won't finish them' and shovel him out the door!

I'm sorry but I have just pure laughed for 5 minutes solid at the phrase "fucking limpet"
😆 🤣 😂
That has massively cheered me up after a bastard of a week.
Then I read your username and that set me off into chuckles as well 😆 so thank you for that 😇

Alpacajigsaw · 17/11/2025 23:36

Oh dear OP

Hes definitely taking the piss and advantage of your kind nature

YANBU

Gettingbysomehow · 17/11/2025 23:34

Funnily enough I was wondering this morning if I should maybe go on a few dates but this has put me right off.

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 17/11/2025 23:31

Wasn't there a thread on here recently where a woman in her 50s was nice to the old bloke (80s) next door, he had just been widowed and she liked his wife and she went over for a chat because "he must be lonely". And the next day, he came to her door with a pair of his wife's knickers and said she should wear them when she came over and they'd have some fun 😬 😬 😬

My stepfather was also dating within 6 weeks of my mother's funeral. It felt really off and disrespectful and I've never looked at him the same since.

Bluestripeddress · 17/11/2025 23:28

I find some of your responses quite weird…..the suggestive ones. I think you’re actually enjoying all this.

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