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And he showed up unannounced ... after I tried to help him.

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MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 18:42

This is the first thread I have created, so be gentle, ha.

Okay, I saw a post on Facebook from a neighbour I did not know at all, saying how lonely he was since the death of his wife six weeks ago. Lots of people were saying nice things but I know, having suffered many deaths, that what he probably needed was company and a mind diversion for a few hours.

I said he was welcome for a cuppa at mine, stressing it would be friends only, that I am not looking for a relationship at all (and I hoped that as he was only six weeks bereaved, finding someone else would not be on his mind).

He came over the next day, and spent a massive eight hours here, by which time I was way past my work start time but as I am self-employed and we were getting on great and with many interests in common, I didn't make an issue of it.

After he left, I very quickly received a message asking, 'Please please, can we do that again as soon as possible?' and by the next morning, a message saying, 'I am waiting like a kid at Christmas for your reply!'

He also told me he was going to be working next door to me on the Monday morning, obviously dropping this news into the chat so I could say, 'Why don't you pop in?' Of course, I did not say that or give any encouragement, from which he should have deduced I wasn't into the idea of meeting again so soon.

I also had the feeling he had somehow 'engineered' the work next door to me as he never mentioned that during the Saturday meet-up.

The first time I had seen him was on the Saturday, when he'd arrived at 1pm and left at half past nine in the evening. Bit long for a cup of tea!

I reponded to his messages without showing the same ardour (the ardent messaging was already giving me the heebie jeebies, giving vibes that he saw me as more than a friend) but I said we could meet up again when I was next free, but that he should be aware I worked a lot.

I stressed I'd let him know when I was off work, and that we could go out and do an activity. I again stressed 'It is nice to meet local friends.'

Incidentally, I really do work a lot, usually around 12-14 hours a day, each day, except Saturdays when normally, I go out with an archaeology group. After that, I always work through on the Saturday night/Sunday morn to catch up.

I also told him that I was about to work an all-nighter from Sunday eve to Monday morning, and that on Monday, I was going to be out on a job all night so needed to catch up on sleep between Sunday night and Monday daytime.

Anyway!

It came to half past nine this morning and there were a few knocks on the door. I had expected it to be a parcel delivery so I answered. AAAAGH! There he was, standing hopping foot to foot, waiting to be invited in!

I was bloody angry and said I had just worked nights and he'd woken me up, which was true, and I'd dragged myself from bed looking like Worzel Gummidge. I must have looked both horrific and horrified!

He was waving two coffees about, which he'd bought at a local garage. I don't even drink coffee and said so, then that I had to go as I needed sleep because I am tonight working all night on a difficult task just as I'd told him. And I closed the door on him.

I was both mortified and embarrassed that he'd put me in that position. What a $$$$ing idiot!

To top it off, I checked the members' names, and he has gone and joined the same club I am a member of, where we go out on Saturdays. So now, I have to expect him to show up there as well. He actually was a member of it two years ago before I joined, and he did not like it. The first thing he told me was how bad it was, trying to get me to opt out of it.

I am in two minds about whether I should message the organiser and ask them to boot him out as he only rejoined the minute after leaving here on the Saturday night!

That's the last time I feel sorry for a bereaved male neighbour which is a shame. I have several male friends who don't behave like this and have never shown up at the door. They wouldn't dream of it!

AIBU to have no tolerance for him showing up like that, and to not contact him again despite his messages still coming on Facebook?

I feel sad that he's lost his wife but it doesn't give him a ticket to stalkerish, creepy behaviour. It's even worse that we have a few good friends in common, and I wonder if he will try to blacken my name for not continuing with the contact.

Having seen how he tried to get me to opt out of the club I am a member of, I would not be surprised.

OP posts:
Anonanonay · 18/11/2025 09:11

MzHz · 17/11/2025 18:44

No good deed goes unpunished @MungoforPresident

Lol, I was just about to type that too.

ScreamingInfidelities · 18/11/2025 08:42

shuggles · 17/11/2025 23:12

@MungoforPresident There's no issue with pushing someone away if you need time and space for yourself.

What many people don't realise is that men are far more emotional than women. Men fall in love very easily, and feel love very intensely. Men are desperate to find relationships and to have someone to keep them company. Men are hurt far more by heartbreak. Unfortunately, this is the reason why so many men may exhibit desperate and clingy behaviour, when not being mindful of how women might perceive them.

What absolute shite.

Cosyblankets · 18/11/2025 08:33

Cosyblankets · 18/11/2025 08:30

I thought the same.
I've been widowed and i would have been horrified if someone said that to me

Sorry hadn't RTFT i see this had been answered

wonderegg · 18/11/2025 08:33

Cosyblankets · 18/11/2025 08:30

I thought the same.
I've been widowed and i would have been horrified if someone said that to me

The man had been saying he missed "cuddles" and wanted to find a new partner at some point in his original message so it's not out of order for the OP to put what she did.

This man wanted sex. "cuddles" is a reference to sex. Its very very obvious

FreeRider · 18/11/2025 08:30

I said he was welcome for a cuppa at mine, stressing it would be friends only, that I am not looking for a relationship at all (and I hoped that as he was only six weeks bereaved, finding someone else would not be on his mind).

Never underestimate how much men think with their dicks @MungoforPresident ...my ex husband was shagging his new girlfriend 5 weeks after his partner of 12 years had died!

Cosyblankets · 18/11/2025 08:30

ShamrockShenanigans · 17/11/2025 18:55

I must admit I was pretty shocked that you'd say to a man who'd only lost his wife 6 weeks ago...

"I said he was welcome for a cuppa at mine, stressing it would be friends only, that I am not looking for a relationship at all (and I hoped that as he was only six weeks bereaved, finding someone else would not be on his mind)."

But it seems like you had some sort of gut instinct maybe?

I thought the same.
I've been widowed and i would have been horrified if someone said that to me

Dollymylove · 18/11/2025 08:30

Wait, what, he came for a brew and stayed 8 HOURS? Jesus christ!!
I would have been dropping serious hints after 2 hours and then standing with the front door open after 3.
You need a firm conversation with him as he appears to have got the wrong end if the stick here

AngelinaFibres · 18/11/2025 08:22

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 22:03

That is daft. Inviting a neighbour to a cup of tea is hardly naive. I do not know why it is that on Mumsnet, every thread starts off sensibly and gets derailed by people who see men as a threat.

There's nothing threatening here.

Edited

My SIL lives in a small group of cottages. The husband of one of her neighbours had cancer and , after years and years of treatment, he died. His widow was devastated. My SIL has saviour complex and invited the neighbour round to be kind. She ended up with 2 years of her neighbour waiting until SILs husband had left for work , appearing on the doorstep, weeping for hours and still being there when her husband got back in the evening. She didn't feel she could push her away, pretend she wasn't there/ was just going out so it went on and on and on until my SIL (and her husband) was at the end of her tether. It doesn't matter whether someone is male or female you absolutely must always have boundaries.

Dollybantree · 18/11/2025 08:21

said this because in his message in the group chat, he was saying how much he missed cuddles and that he hoped to find a partner again, but not yet

I think this was a huge red flag - even the fact he’s on FB casting about for sympathy six weeks after his wife supposedly died. How do you even know he’s telling the truth? He sounds like an absolute chancer.

I think you’ve been incredibly naive - and letting him stay for 9 hours is just bonkers. I’m agog.

Holluschickie · 18/11/2025 08:21

So true that most men are only nice to women they fancy, so they interpret all niceness as evidence of future" cuddles".
I would have never responded to a man who made that FB post.
Don't be nice to men, unless you know them very well.

SparklyGlitterballs · 18/11/2025 08:15

I'm never usually a one to be negative on someone else's thread but I'm still not getting this. You made 'endless brews' but even after the second or third (let alone subsequent ones) you didn't once think "hmm, we've been chatting a long time" and think to check the time and show him out? You're also in surveillance in the police? Blimey, if you couldn't work out several hours have passed then I think you need to up your game a bit!

For those who won't read FB Messenger messages because you don't want to show the sender they're 'read', there is a way - on an iPhone at least - of reading messages and then still showing as unread. Hard close the Messenger app on your phone. Switch your phone onto airline mode to disconnect from WiFi and 4/5g, then open Messenger and read message. Before taking off of airline mode, come out of the chat and hard close Messenger again.

MySweetGeorgina · 18/11/2025 08:15

Lesson learnt. You cannot ever be randomly nice to a man. As most men only are nice to women they fancy

so he thinks you must really like him a lot, as you gave him 8 hours of your time and lots of info about your life so he can slot in

your kindness is now repaid like this

you need to have very firm words with him and you will need to be actively very unkind to him to try and neutralise the kindness which he interpreted (as many men would) as you fancying him

You live and learn 😢

Owly11 · 18/11/2025 08:10

Writing 'I am not looking for a relationship' means 'I am looking for a relationship' otherwise why would relationships even be on your mind. Coupled with inviting a stranger over and then not kicking him out after 45 minutes gave him 3 very strong signals that you were interested in a relationship. If you genuinely weren't looking for a relationship then you need to wonder why you offered what you did. It was reckless and risky. Having said all that his behaviour is out of order and you need to find your anger and place fort knox boundaries. I would go stone cold, block and don't answer the door. Also tell a few neighbours about it to so they can look out for you.

Holluschickie · 18/11/2025 08:09

I am never nice to men I don't know. I never invite men around to mine. This has served me well.

Jane143 · 18/11/2025 08:08

You sound like a really nice lady that tried to help a fellow human. Sadly he has taken it too far in his loneliness. Hopefully you can put a stop to this and he will meet new friends and that this does not disrupt your life too much. Well done for trying though x

AngelinaFibres · 18/11/2025 08:02

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 17/11/2025 18:47

Oh dear. This is literally why I am an antisocial bitch until I get the measure of someone.

Edited

This. Always, always get the measure of someone ( male , female,friend, potential partner, university assessed-project partner ...bloody everything) before you invite them to your house. Neutral territory, group thing. Go along with the person the first time, introduce them to others in the group, watch how they behave.

peacefulscene · 18/11/2025 07:58

Alltheunreadbooks · 18/11/2025 07:42

I'm not sure if there is any Neuro Diversity here on your part, OP, but no-one has somebody round for 8 hours for a cuppa on first meeting. What did you do for meals, for example?.

I wouldn't have family or a best friend round for half that time without something else planned.

Your work life rings alarms bells as well, at 60 why are you working such crazy hours?.

I'm sorry to victim blame but this bloke must have got the weirdest of signals from you, then his entitled behaviour did this rest.

I agree with all of this. I find it a massive stretch to think you didnt realise 8 hours had passed and if you have a day job and a night job - surely you were due at work at some point during this time period so would have been checking the time!

I also find it odd considering your job you seem so naive about this man and are still calling him a "gent". He's not a fcking "gent" he's a creepy pervert who is practically stalking you now- turning up at your home unannounced to the point you had to shout at him to leave, joining clubs you are in just to be close to you and sending you multiple unwanted Facebook messages.

This is all appalling behaviour and yet you say "There's nothing threatening here". Really? I suggest you read up on how stalking starts because the picture you have painted is textbook stalking 101. If you cannot see that I would be very worried you are in a job working with the police and "surveillance".

ShiftingSand · 18/11/2025 07:45

HighlyUnusual · 17/11/2025 23:06

No, he won't be mortified because he's clearly inappropriate and boundary trampling, and after a few months, he'll have probably got a new girlfriend. I have seen it happen so many times with men, they prefer to grieve with a new woman to listen to their issues, rather than be single, deal with them and then launch into new relationships. The stats of marrying after bereavement for men vs women bear this out. He'll just do this to several women til he finds a new one.

Or he will do this😊 I was trying to be optimistic

Alltheunreadbooks · 18/11/2025 07:42

I'm not sure if there is any Neuro Diversity here on your part, OP, but no-one has somebody round for 8 hours for a cuppa on first meeting. What did you do for meals, for example?.

I wouldn't have family or a best friend round for half that time without something else planned.

Your work life rings alarms bells as well, at 60 why are you working such crazy hours?.

I'm sorry to victim blame but this bloke must have got the weirdest of signals from you, then his entitled behaviour did this rest.

CautiousLurker2 · 18/11/2025 07:42

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 22:03

That is daft. Inviting a neighbour to a cup of tea is hardly naive. I do not know why it is that on Mumsnet, every thread starts off sensibly and gets derailed by people who see men as a threat.

There's nothing threatening here.

Edited

Agree. In your shoes, if he messages again, I’d just reply: ‘It was nice to meet you the other day and hope you are feeling a bit better. However I think there may be a little confusion as to what i was offering - a quick occasional cuppa for half an hour was what I intended while you are adjusting to your loss. I’m afraid I am not looking for deep friendship myself or any sort of relationship as I am very busy with work and family. Can I suggest you reach out to your GP for counselling support or to a bereavement service such as Cruse. Take care. ’

Tillygan60 · 18/11/2025 07:40

NRTFT but this is surely just a story?!

PracticalPixie · 18/11/2025 07:33

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 22:03

That is daft. Inviting a neighbour to a cup of tea is hardly naive. I do not know why it is that on Mumsnet, every thread starts off sensibly and gets derailed by people who see men as a threat.

There's nothing threatening here.

Edited

I honestly think you are naive about modern dating.

You keep saying "he was a perfect gentleman when he came over, he didn't try anything at all", but now look how weird he is being. He is not a perfect gentleman. He is clearly not right. Hopefully just a phase related to his grief, but, yes, I'm sorry but I do think you are naive.

The fact you had to make it clear "just friends ok?" says it all. Just don't invite people over if you need to spell it out to them that you won't be having sex with them or starting a relationship immediately.

MikeRafone · 18/11/2025 07:27

what a shame he was such a tit, you were generous with your time and kind to someone just having lost their life long partner. You made it very clear your position and he didn't listen

I reached out to an chap I knew through others as his wife had died, I explained very clearly I wasn't after "him" in any shape or way and we've met up regularly for a couple of years. He says it's easy as I knew his wife and their story before and he has lots of close friends who he has surrounded himself with and not made a tit of himself by stalking them.

Some men listen or don't have an ulterior motive in the first place

LaLoba · 18/11/2025 06:51

ProudWomanXX · 17/11/2025 22:01

Given your background, I'm astonished you would have sent a message like that to this so very recent widower?
I'm honestly not trying to victim blame, but really?
Such nievity!

I’m struggling to believe someone in that line of work would be such a pushover to allow someone outstay their welcome so spectacularly, on top of the apparent naivety of inviting a lonely man who’s ‘missing cuddles’ over. Quite the yarn OP 🤔

chocolateychurros · 18/11/2025 06:35

Yanbu, you wanted to help, but he either got the wrong idea or is just a bit…I don’t want to be mean because he’s just lost his wife but yanbu definitely.

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