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And he showed up unannounced ... after I tried to help him.

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MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 18:42

This is the first thread I have created, so be gentle, ha.

Okay, I saw a post on Facebook from a neighbour I did not know at all, saying how lonely he was since the death of his wife six weeks ago. Lots of people were saying nice things but I know, having suffered many deaths, that what he probably needed was company and a mind diversion for a few hours.

I said he was welcome for a cuppa at mine, stressing it would be friends only, that I am not looking for a relationship at all (and I hoped that as he was only six weeks bereaved, finding someone else would not be on his mind).

He came over the next day, and spent a massive eight hours here, by which time I was way past my work start time but as I am self-employed and we were getting on great and with many interests in common, I didn't make an issue of it.

After he left, I very quickly received a message asking, 'Please please, can we do that again as soon as possible?' and by the next morning, a message saying, 'I am waiting like a kid at Christmas for your reply!'

He also told me he was going to be working next door to me on the Monday morning, obviously dropping this news into the chat so I could say, 'Why don't you pop in?' Of course, I did not say that or give any encouragement, from which he should have deduced I wasn't into the idea of meeting again so soon.

I also had the feeling he had somehow 'engineered' the work next door to me as he never mentioned that during the Saturday meet-up.

The first time I had seen him was on the Saturday, when he'd arrived at 1pm and left at half past nine in the evening. Bit long for a cup of tea!

I reponded to his messages without showing the same ardour (the ardent messaging was already giving me the heebie jeebies, giving vibes that he saw me as more than a friend) but I said we could meet up again when I was next free, but that he should be aware I worked a lot.

I stressed I'd let him know when I was off work, and that we could go out and do an activity. I again stressed 'It is nice to meet local friends.'

Incidentally, I really do work a lot, usually around 12-14 hours a day, each day, except Saturdays when normally, I go out with an archaeology group. After that, I always work through on the Saturday night/Sunday morn to catch up.

I also told him that I was about to work an all-nighter from Sunday eve to Monday morning, and that on Monday, I was going to be out on a job all night so needed to catch up on sleep between Sunday night and Monday daytime.

Anyway!

It came to half past nine this morning and there were a few knocks on the door. I had expected it to be a parcel delivery so I answered. AAAAGH! There he was, standing hopping foot to foot, waiting to be invited in!

I was bloody angry and said I had just worked nights and he'd woken me up, which was true, and I'd dragged myself from bed looking like Worzel Gummidge. I must have looked both horrific and horrified!

He was waving two coffees about, which he'd bought at a local garage. I don't even drink coffee and said so, then that I had to go as I needed sleep because I am tonight working all night on a difficult task just as I'd told him. And I closed the door on him.

I was both mortified and embarrassed that he'd put me in that position. What a $$$$ing idiot!

To top it off, I checked the members' names, and he has gone and joined the same club I am a member of, where we go out on Saturdays. So now, I have to expect him to show up there as well. He actually was a member of it two years ago before I joined, and he did not like it. The first thing he told me was how bad it was, trying to get me to opt out of it.

I am in two minds about whether I should message the organiser and ask them to boot him out as he only rejoined the minute after leaving here on the Saturday night!

That's the last time I feel sorry for a bereaved male neighbour which is a shame. I have several male friends who don't behave like this and have never shown up at the door. They wouldn't dream of it!

AIBU to have no tolerance for him showing up like that, and to not contact him again despite his messages still coming on Facebook?

I feel sad that he's lost his wife but it doesn't give him a ticket to stalkerish, creepy behaviour. It's even worse that we have a few good friends in common, and I wonder if he will try to blacken my name for not continuing with the contact.

Having seen how he tried to get me to opt out of the club I am a member of, I would not be surprised.

OP posts:
tothelefttotheleft · 18/11/2025 22:31

@Happyjoe

What an awful way for your dad to treat you.

Lakecat · 18/11/2025 22:24

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HevenlyMeS · 18/11/2025 22:22

Yes immensely compassionate & I've done similar but with maturity & life experiences, learned, it's imperative to set boundaries 1st -
Someone, like a complete stranger spending more than a few hours with you, the 1st time you meet, seems more than too much, for most circumstances, in my humblest opinion, I'd imagine 💚🙏💚

Zov · 18/11/2025 22:10

Minniliscious · 17/11/2025 19:01

This is also why I’m extremely antisocial! People can take the absolute piss. I don’t envy you OP but you’re doing the right thing by distancing yourself and not giving in.

Yep me too. I don't do anything for anyone, don't offer favours, don't offer lifts, don't offer childcare or petcare, or anything. (Apart from close family and my 2 close friends who I have known for 30+ years ...) I will help in an emergency of course, but will never offer help, and I certainly wouldn't offer to have anyone in my house to show 'friendship' and 'companionship.' As has been said, some people take the piss. I would much rather meet somewhere neutral. I do NOT want (most) people in my home.

I know I sound hard, and cold, but TBH I couldn't care less. I have been burned/used/shit on too many times in the past. You give people a inch and they take a mile. Men especially will take advantage. I got burned several years ago, when I lent a single male neighbour (in his mid 60s - lives 5 houses away,) a small stepladder - for 10 minutes.

He brought it back, and then kept walking past me in the garden, showering me with compliments, giving me flowers he'd picked from his garden, and telling me what a lovely lady I was. He brought some After Eight Mints around too! He said I was so kind and so special and so delicate. (Fucking 'delicate?!') WTF?!😆I just kept saying 'please stop, you don't need to give me anything...' He wouldn't stop. Came back with some books for me too.

Anyway, I stopped it by making sure my DH was outside when I saw him coming down towards the driveway again. (For the 7th time since returning the ladder!) He wasn't aware I had a husband and was visibly shocked. I didn't tell DH what had happened .. He would NOT have been happy.

The man never came around again after he had seen I had a husband. (As soon as he saw him, he legged it!)

But yeah, tl;dr, who the fuck did he think he was, pushing his attention on me, and love-bombing me, and hounding me. I'd only lent him a fucking stepladder for 10 minutes! Some men are parasites. I will NEVER be friendly with men now. Polite, and cordial, but not friendly. What if my husabnd had not been around/if I had not had a husband?! He would have pursued me constantly, and stalked me!

I have also been burned - a few years ago, by being friendly and welcoming with a woman in my village, who joined a hobby group I was in, (because I was in it!) and she wouldn't fucking leave me alone. She also joined a second hobby group I was in! She was like a limpet, and clung to me, messaging me all the time, asking personal, intrusive questions, and constantly calling at my house, expecting to be let in and entertained, and she stayed for HOURS. I decided that I had to be very cold after about year and a half of this, because she was really stressing me out, and making me anxious... I ghosted her.

It was almost a full year - maybe 10 months - before she stopped asking everyone I know what is wrong with me. I know, not a great thing to do - ghosting, but I had no choice, She was messing with my mental health. I also had to withdraw from the 2 hobby groups that I loved - because SHE had joined them of course...

Sadly she turned 3 of the women in these groups against me, and when they saw me out and about afterwards, they just side eyed me and walked on by. They have left the village now, and she is 10 minutes walk away, and I rarely see her. So I don't care so much. But yeah, I am very VERY guarded now.

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tothelefttotheleft · 18/11/2025 22:08

AmberRose86 · 17/11/2025 19:14

I don’t tend to like people and this shit is why. So needy.

However…he’s lost his wife 6 weeks ago and probably isn’t in his right mind. Not that that is your problem of course. But I suspect in 6 months time he will look back at this time and want the ground to swallow him up 😳

Edited

I doubt it. He's more likely to be remarried.

PuppyMonkey · 18/11/2025 22:02

Eight hours.

EIGHT HOURS.

Confused
toiletpaperthief · 18/11/2025 21:52

I believe you are a bit to blame for this, letting this guy stay at your place for 8 hours on the first encounter is sending the wrong message ("I'm bored, have all the time in the world and you are very interesting to listen for hours") I'm sure you were being polite but he must have thought he hit the jackpot. I can't listen to a friend for more than half an hour let alone 8. You should have kicked him after an hour because: "You're meeting your boyfriend so I need to get ready".

Gettingbysomehow · 18/11/2025 21:50

Im from the Doc Martin school of rudeness if anyone watches Doc Martin.......Get up.....Get out!! There is no room at all for misunderstandings 😂

ThisBrickOtter · 18/11/2025 21:42

Oh this sounds annoying and hopefully it's not been scary too.

I know you didn't ask for advice, but here's some anyway (I've a background that's relevant). If you live alone, don't invite men around. They tend to think they've got a foot in the door then. Meet on neutral ground.

At some sort of subconscious level, once they've claimed the home territory, they think they've got a claim on you, as some (most) struggle to separate the two.

shuggles · 18/11/2025 21:23

ScreamingInfidelities · 18/11/2025 08:42

What absolute shite.

... I wasn't justifying his behaviour. I explicitly said it was OK for her to push him away.

I was just explaining why so many men are like this. Men get very easily attached. They are not able to break things off and detach as easily as women.

seafoamhair · 18/11/2025 21:12

ChachaIntheLongrun · 18/11/2025 19:39

Bollocks. The sad reality - men go after anyone, sometimes anything with a hole in

Oh, is that because "men are more emotional than women"?

Catpiece · 18/11/2025 20:44

I’ve learned to keep people at arm’s length. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

UnhappyHobbit · 18/11/2025 20:39

TheFluffyTwo · 17/11/2025 23:10

Just felt compelled to offer my method for politely 'evicting' people from house visits when reasonable hints haven't worked. Especially if they're local and haven't come far.

Wait for a slight pause/ relatively natural lead-in and then gently prise yourself out of your chair with a sigh, smiling saying, "well, on that note, must get on, I suppose. Thanks so much for stopping by. It's been such a long time [other genuine pleasantry assuming you actually want them to still feel liked]. So lovely to see you." Combining it with collecting their teacup or similar and moving gradually in the direction of the front door while keeping up the pleasantries is ideal.

A person with reasonable social graces will immediately realised they're in danger of properly overstaying their welcome and be slightly mortified and in a hurry to leave you in peace (I have been this person - we all have!) but 'Must get on' is a classic phrase for a reason, just in case.

It's nice and non-specific so that the dense can't mistake it for an invitation to join in and the CFs can't try to argue you out of whatever activity you specify. Don't be tricked down that path if they ask exactly what you're getting on with! It's "oh, so much to do you wouldn't believe - it never ends, does it?"

CLAIM YOUR HOME BACK! :-)

I love this, thank you for sharing and I will be using this in the future!

Angelic999 · 18/11/2025 20:35

Just because someone's wife has died doesn't make them a good person.

OP please be more wary going forward and don't take it upon yourself to rescue any other 'poor men' who are bereaved/homeless/divorced or has been through other hardships and down on their luck. It's not worth it. Protect your peace at all costs!

Empress13 · 18/11/2025 19:58

Littlejellyuk · 18/11/2025 01:30

How did she lead him on? 🤔

How about this for starters
He came over the next day, and spent a massive eight hours here, by which time I was way past my work start time but as I am self-employed and we were getting on great and with many interests in common, I didn't make an issue of it.

Exhaustedpigeon1 · 18/11/2025 19:57

Is his name Jim and does he have a dog called Wilson?

RareJoker · 18/11/2025 19:52

Good luck OP. I had this issue not too long ago. Thought I’d be friendly, but when I tried to shut things down, he kept randomly appearing at the same places I was. Then I started getting messages: “I think you’re trying to hide your true feelings from me”.
WTF? Not sure how he interpreted me ignoring him as hiding my true feelings, but I guess that was easier to believe than the simple fact I wasn’t remotely interested in the fucker

ChachaIntheLongrun · 18/11/2025 19:39

seafoamhair · 17/11/2025 23:14

What many people don't realise is that men are far more emotional than women. Men fall in love very easily, and feel love very intensely. Men are desperate to find relationships and to have someone to keep them company. Men are hurt far more by heartbreak. Unfortunately, this is the reason why so many men may exhibit desperate and clingy behaviour, when not being mindful of how women might perceive them.

Bollocks.

Bollocks. The sad reality - men go after anyone, sometimes anything with a hole in

lilkitten · 18/11/2025 19:35

I had similar with a recently-bereaved man. I was single, unsure about attraction really but he seemed nice and he was grieving, so I wanted to be friendly. She had died suddenly only the month before, I didn't think he would be so keen to move on but he clearly was, and I felt uncomfortable

ChachaIntheLongrun · 18/11/2025 19:30

BeanQuisine · 18/11/2025 02:32

Something a bit odd about this one. It's the initial eight hour cuppa, "getting on great and with many interests in common", I don't understand.

It's no wonder he thought you were keen and must have been confused indeed by the change in tone.

OP? Some truth in there? You might get interested then??

smilingontheinside · 18/11/2025 19:22

WearyAuldWumman · 17/11/2025 22:57

Mind you, my late husband's ex goes looking for another man any time a partner dies or looks to be on the verge of shuffling off this mortal coil.

Her affair partner died and she had a widower well within a year. As soon as he died, she was hunting for former male colleagues on FB.

She got a message from the son of one of them explaining that, unfortunately, his father had dementia.

She eventually bagged her late sibling's neighbour - again, well before a year was up. Good for her, I guess.

When we first heard of the new chap, DH scoffed...I told him 'He's just a friend...She says he's cutting the grass for her.'

'Aye...cutting the grass... I know her.'

Dh was right.

When the newest bloke landed in hospital, she then set her sights on a previous partner's relative - whose wife had just gone into a care home.

Some people just refuse to be on their own.

Sounds like my exh partner. We were not even divorced before she snapped him up (poor unsuspecting mare). I think he is number 5 or 6 🤔 she must be desperate! Took me a few years before even considering "dating" then decided that many men my age just wanted a housekeeper which I wasn't interested in becoming again! Met my current dp quite by accident, told him at outset wasn't interested in a "relationship". But we are happily travelling together and enjoying life. I think the fact that I didnt need a man in my life was what attracted him, as he was wanted (eventually) not needed and loves that I am self sufficient and capable but appreciate his help when offered. Something im afraid my exh lady won't get from him but after so many marriages I think her radar is faulty 🤔🤣

EstherGreenwood63 · 18/11/2025 18:56

@Happyjoe that all sounds horrific. I'm sorry you experienced that. 💐

Happyjoe · 18/11/2025 18:47

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 18/11/2025 18:21

Jesus, that's awful! 🥺💐

I know, there is more too, but I believe folk will think am lying!

Was just astonished that he thought all this was acceptable, he knew right from wrong. Tbh, the whole thing, plus the new (horrible) fiancé just made me take a back seat in his life, same with my brothers and he died 3 years after mum. All a bit sad.

Apologies OP for hijacking the thread.

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 18/11/2025 18:21

Happyjoe · 18/11/2025 09:42

Yep! And dad was 72 at the time. I can't believe am about to share this in public, but I can laugh uncomfortably about it now, the day before mum's funeral, dad stood in front of the portrait I'd taken of mum and dad, placed a kiss on mum's face and he said "I do miss your pussy". 😰 Also, that was just a few hours after he made a pass at my Auntie, who left very suddenly and drove 300 miles home, without going to the funeral. My auntie only told us what happened a few months later.

It was strange, it was like when mum died, his behaviour became horrible, right out of an episode of Jerry Springer, I think my mum kept him in check.

Jesus, that's awful! 🥺💐

WearyAuldWumman · 18/11/2025 16:41

Reading this thread has opened my eyes somewhat. In spite of the experience I outlined above, I hadn't realised that men habitually translate ordinary friendliness as something else.

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