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notaminorthing · 17/11/2025 18:38

My two year old has mostly phased her nap out at home but still naps at nursery. This does mean a later bedtime but as long as she’s awake by 2. I’ve specifically asked before if she can be woken by 2.

However they keep not doing it and today she slept from 115 to twenty past three. It’s going to be around half nine by the time I get her down tonight. I have a reception aged child who I won’t be able to do homework or reading or anything with and even he is going to end up in bed later than ideal.

I have just stopped myself sending a really stroppy email and I’m going to ring in tomorrow but am I really being unreasonable in feeling a bit like I’ve lost trust? I’ve specifically asked and surely common sense should dictate that’s far too late a nap!

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Jack80 · 21/11/2025 23:18

You need to state sleep times are x to y only.

notaminorthing · 20/11/2025 09:50

It isn’t the nap I’m particularly bothered about. I don’t think she does need it - I think they need her to have it would be more accurate! They’ve said a number of times ‘oh, she took a long time to close her eyes today’ - yep, that’s because she doesn’t need it!

It is the timing of the nap that I’m concerned about. For all people are getting huffy about the awful idea you’d wake a sleeping child, once they are out of babyhood it isn’t in anyone’s best interests to be out of routine. My nearly five year old was very tired after school yesterday. If I’d ’let him sleep because he’s tired’ he could have napped 4-6 and then gone to bed at midnight - let’s not pretend that’s sensible or in his best interests Confused

To be honest I still haven’t totally decided what to do! It isn’t exactly the nap - it really is very poor on their part I think but there have been some odd things of late and I’m concerned it’s not the place it was if you like. That said, I’ve no desire to move her especially given sentimentally it’s been part of y life in one capacity or another for a long time.

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Yourcatisnotsorry · 20/11/2025 07:52

If she’s napping at nursery she probably needs it. It sounds as though you are unreasonably irate about the possibility of having more time with your toddler awake which suggests there are bigger issues than a slightly longer than normal nap. Not all children fit in to the idea of ‘routine’ or ‘what works for your family’ ans their needs change all the time. It sounds as though some adaptability and working on becoming less stressed about minor things would be really good for you.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 19/11/2025 22:31

FrivolousKitchenRollUse · 19/11/2025 22:10

Excuses Excuses Excuses 🙄

It does sound argumentative and unyielding.
I completely understand not wanting dc to sleep late in the day. But, the child's schedule should be adjusted to encourage an earlier nap, then. ie consistently wake her an hour earlier each morning.
However, if the child is tired, she must be allowed to sleep according to her own needs. It's tough when that poses a conflict, but it doesn't last forever and we do have to listen to their needs.

FrivolousKitchenRollUse · 19/11/2025 22:10

notaminorthing · 19/11/2025 13:10

So

Don’t let them rule your life but let them sleep when they’re tired.

The two contradict one another somewhat,

Other people can do what they like. Personally, my routine and my child’s doesn’t involve sleeping most of the afternoon.

Excuses Excuses Excuses 🙄

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 19/11/2025 17:33

notaminorthing · 19/11/2025 10:54

I think most people in a dark room with sleep cues would eventually go to sleep. Anyway, I’m not quibbling about it - you obviously think she’s exhausted because after 45 minutes of persuading her she falls asleep. I disagree.

I think a poster a while ago had it right.

ignore all the posts about what others would do with their kids…..the point of the post is that nursery agreed to do something and they have now broken that.

like any other service you pay for.

sorry I can’t who said that.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 19/11/2025 17:29

Wildefish · 19/11/2025 13:18

If the child is ready to give up naps (which op said they were) but needs a little catnap this is how to do it. They get enough to keep them going but too much and they don’t sleep at night meaning they are exhausted the next day. Nighttime sleep is the most important. Also if you wake within 20minutes the child has not gone into a deep sleep which is hard to wake from. I have done this for years with many children and they have all been fine. Obviously all children are different and some still need their naps well into being 3 years old.

When my child was three naps would be refused.. then the inevitable crash at 4 or 5pm. 😵‍💫

skkyelark · 19/11/2025 14:05

Our nursery look at sleep holistically, so they'll cap a nap or have a cut-off time if that's in the best interest of the child overall. If too long/too late a nap has a major impact on her night sleep that may be the way to approach it – that this isn't best for DDs sleep overall, because it means she goes to bed 2-3 hours later, but wakes at her usual time, so actually gets less sleep, or whatever the situation is.

They won't force a child to stay awake, though, so if DD is hard to wake once she has finally gone off, that might be tricky.

Wildefish · 19/11/2025 13:49

notaminorthing · 19/11/2025 10:54

I think most people in a dark room with sleep cues would eventually go to sleep. Anyway, I’m not quibbling about it - you obviously think she’s exhausted because after 45 minutes of persuading her she falls asleep. I disagree.

You are her mother and you know your child best. I couldn’t let my 2year old son nap but my grandson still needed his at 3. Children are all different.

blobby10 · 19/11/2025 13:45

@notaminorthing Its been well over 20 years since mine were doing exactly what you describe so you have my sympathy. Your DD may be a little young but I found that giving my younger child(ren) 'homework' too enabled me to focus more on the eldest. In those days we could get age appropriate 'work books' from WHSmith or similar and the younger two loved copying their big bro and 'doing homework'. Don't know if there's anything like that around now?

FcukBreastCancer · 19/11/2025 13:20

I'd tell the nursery that they have given up their nap. Or move to pre school.

Wildefish · 19/11/2025 13:18

Mumtobabyhavoc · 19/11/2025 10:07

You can't make a 2 year old understand that, fgs. 🙄
A 2 year old needs a 60-90 min nap. They sleep because they are tired. Children's needs are different from adults.

If the child is ready to give up naps (which op said they were) but needs a little catnap this is how to do it. They get enough to keep them going but too much and they don’t sleep at night meaning they are exhausted the next day. Nighttime sleep is the most important. Also if you wake within 20minutes the child has not gone into a deep sleep which is hard to wake from. I have done this for years with many children and they have all been fine. Obviously all children are different and some still need their naps well into being 3 years old.

notaminorthing · 19/11/2025 13:10

supersonicginandtonic · 19/11/2025 11:40

@notaminorthing but that's what you have to do when you have more than one child. I've survived 5 toddlers. I know it's hard but you can't let them rule your life!

So

Don’t let them rule your life but let them sleep when they’re tired.

The two contradict one another somewhat,

Other people can do what they like. Personally, my routine and my child’s doesn’t involve sleeping most of the afternoon.

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BrendaSmall · 19/11/2025 12:43

notaminorthing · 17/11/2025 18:57

It is messing her routine up completely by not waking her up!

As a result she will now be in bed really late, and so will my other child. She’s mostly phased the nap out but she will sleep there at around 1. I don’t mind her having a short nap but she really can’t sleep much beyond 2 if she’s going to bed before 8.

why is she still napping there if she won’t at home just does, same as she eats cauliflower there and not at home.

It’s not your daughter’s routine that is disrupted though, it’s yours in the evenings!
your daughter must need to sleep because she definitely wouldn’t sleep if it wasn’t needed!

supersonicginandtonic · 19/11/2025 11:43

@rainbowsandraspberrygin I do like a raspberry gin 😂

supersonicginandtonic · 19/11/2025 11:40

@notaminorthing but that's what you have to do when you have more than one child. I've survived 5 toddlers. I know it's hard but you can't let them rule your life!

pollymere · 19/11/2025 11:20

Mine combined naps at that age but certainly still had them until attending nursery at three and a half.

It's tricky because I don't think a two hour nap is unreasonable but still being asleep at gone three probably is. I'd be requesting that nap time doesn't exceed 14:30 due to the knock on effect it has on the rest of her day. Or ask that the nursery don't put her down for naps at all.

Mine never went to bed that early as they didn't sleep for long at night. We'd aim for twelve hours so never before 19:30 once the naps went!

notaminorthing · 19/11/2025 10:54

I think most people in a dark room with sleep cues would eventually go to sleep. Anyway, I’m not quibbling about it - you obviously think she’s exhausted because after 45 minutes of persuading her she falls asleep. I disagree.

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Mumtobabyhavoc · 19/11/2025 10:07

Wildefish · 19/11/2025 09:30

This is ridiculous. Tell them to wake her after 20minutes. This gives her enough nap time to get through the day but not interfere with bedtime. All toddlers go through this difficult time and they should understand that nighttime sleep is the most important.

You can't make a 2 year old understand that, fgs. 🙄
A 2 year old needs a 60-90 min nap. They sleep because they are tired. Children's needs are different from adults.

Wildefish · 19/11/2025 09:30

notaminorthing · 19/11/2025 09:09

Well, why would they?

I have no problem with her having a sleep if it makes their life easier and fits into the structure of the room. My issue is with the timing of that sleep.

But honestly some variation is to be expected. I know with DD they spend ages trying to get her to sleep and then when she eventually does it’s quite close to 2 so that’s why they then don’t wake her up. If it happens again I probably will just have to say no sleep please but hopefully it won’t.

This is ridiculous. Tell them to wake her after 20minutes. This gives her enough nap time to get through the day but not interfere with bedtime. All toddlers go through this difficult time and they should understand that nighttime sleep is the most important.

notaminorthing · 19/11/2025 09:09

VikaOlson · 19/11/2025 09:03

Honestly most nurseries don't have extra staff that come in to cover lunch breaks ime.

Well, why would they?

I have no problem with her having a sleep if it makes their life easier and fits into the structure of the room. My issue is with the timing of that sleep.

But honestly some variation is to be expected. I know with DD they spend ages trying to get her to sleep and then when she eventually does it’s quite close to 2 so that’s why they then don’t wake her up. If it happens again I probably will just have to say no sleep please but hopefully it won’t.

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VikaOlson · 19/11/2025 09:03

notaminorthing · 19/11/2025 06:56

I’m not entitled at all @CyanMaker Confused

Staffing levels shouldn’t be on the assumption some children will sleep most of the afternoon. I would withdraw her in that instance and would think very poorly of any childcare setting which recruited and staffed on that assumption.

Honestly most nurseries don't have extra staff that come in to cover lunch breaks ime.

notaminorthing · 19/11/2025 07:21

I never know if it’s hopelessly naive people who don’t have children, people who have much older children who have forgotten, or people who are just a bit dense.

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rainbowsandraspberrygin · 19/11/2025 07:16

supersonicginandtonic · 19/11/2025 07:05

I've always been the parent who lets them sleep. They obviously need it. If they go to bed later then so be it. If she's stopping you doing things with your other child, parent her. Give her something to do and let her know that her behaviour is not acceptable.

🤪🤪🤪

maybe the gin and tonic helps you then?!

Floundering66 · 19/11/2025 07:12

notaminorthing · 19/11/2025 07:07

Wow, thanks. Stop press: all problems with toddlers can be solved by merely letting them know it is not acceptable.

We must have been last in line when these obedient two year olds that can entertain themselves for hours were being handed out 😂 … it’s funny, I wrote a post a while ago about how my child needs constant entertainment and attention and all the comments were “it’s normal”, “he just wants his mummy” etc.

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