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To think there's something really off about this woman?

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BelatrixLestrange · 17/11/2025 18:22

Sorry for the Daily Fail link, but this is the third video I've seen over as many weeks with this woman acting oddly possessive over Arianna.

AIBU to think her behaviour is off?

Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo cause a stir with ANOTHER 'ridiculous' red carpet moment | Daily Mail Online https://share.google/sqbD37a6vMwwNNn8m

Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo cause stir with red carpet stunt

The Wicked: For Good co-stars have had multiple 'bizarre' red carpet exchanges when promoting the first Wicked film, with yet another clip now resurfacing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15297173/Ariana-Grande-Cynthia-Erivo-red-carpet-necklace.html

OP posts:
workshy46 · 19/11/2025 17:18

They both sounds absolutely nuts in interviews and incredibly cringe. That being said most of the young "stars" do nowadays. Its complete non sensical nonsense. Like no on speaks like this in real life. The only people that sound like they are remotely from planet earth are celebrities who are 50+

NewYearSameMe16 · 19/11/2025 17:13

SouthernFashionista · 19/11/2025 16:30

Exactly that. She has degrees from
the best schools and was the First Lady for god’s sake! And yet she still bleats about perceived injustices. It’s embarrassing. At least own your privilege.

Maybe read a book before commenting. She was a black woman born in the 60s, you don’t think she faced any challenges? Her dad worked at a water plant, her mother was a secretary and she was raised in a small apartment on the South Side of Chicago. She made it out, made it to Princeton and made it to the White House. Considering who we make famous in today’s society, the only thing we should be doing is celebrating a woman like this.

SouthernFashionista · 19/11/2025 16:30

NewYearSameMe16 · 19/11/2025 12:28

One of the stupidest comments I’ve read on here and that’s saying a lot. If a woman who has degrees from Princeton and Harvard, was a beloved First Lady and a best-selling author is a ‘disgrace to your race’, you must have some deep seated self hatred going on.

Exactly that. She has degrees from
the best schools and was the First Lady for god’s sake! And yet she still bleats about perceived injustices. It’s embarrassing. At least own your privilege.

Bunnycat101 · 19/11/2025 16:18

The problem is that anorexia tends to have a pretty high mortality rate. At this point it isn’t really a ‘be kind’ situation. They will be both at very high levels of risk and I have no idea how they are both managing the press activity at the moment. I’ve seen a relative very nearly die from anorexia and it isn’t pretty. However, the fact that they are still functioning to a degree does suggest some management is going on.

Dweetfidilove · 19/11/2025 14:30

SouthernFashionista · 19/11/2025 08:24

Agree OP. That woman is freakish. I cannot bear her.

And as for Michelle Obama bleating about all the barriers she has faced. It’s incredibly tone deaf. It doesn’t surprise me she’s jumped on the injection bandwagon. She’s a disgrace to my race IMO.

Lord knows what you're bleating on about, but as a woman of your race, I am quite proud of Michelle and her achievements pre/during/post office.

You're also as ridiculously freakish as the OP with your 'that woman' nonsense.

popcornandpotatoes · 19/11/2025 14:21

PInkyStarfish · 19/11/2025 13:25

Cynthia is her handler keeping a very watchful eye over Ariana. They are all satanists and Ariana has realised too late she cannot leave.

Do you know what Satanist means? There was a very interesting documentary about it on Netflix a few years ago, not sure if it's still on there

BatchCookBabe · 19/11/2025 14:13

ThatCyanCat · 19/11/2025 13:27

What?

I assume that poster is .... joking..? (I hope so!)

ThatCyanCat · 19/11/2025 13:27

PInkyStarfish · 19/11/2025 13:25

Cynthia is her handler keeping a very watchful eye over Ariana. They are all satanists and Ariana has realised too late she cannot leave.

What?

PInkyStarfish · 19/11/2025 13:25

Cynthia is her handler keeping a very watchful eye over Ariana. They are all satanists and Ariana has realised too late she cannot leave.

NewYearSameMe16 · 19/11/2025 12:28

SouthernFashionista · 19/11/2025 08:24

Agree OP. That woman is freakish. I cannot bear her.

And as for Michelle Obama bleating about all the barriers she has faced. It’s incredibly tone deaf. It doesn’t surprise me she’s jumped on the injection bandwagon. She’s a disgrace to my race IMO.

One of the stupidest comments I’ve read on here and that’s saying a lot. If a woman who has degrees from Princeton and Harvard, was a beloved First Lady and a best-selling author is a ‘disgrace to your race’, you must have some deep seated self hatred going on.

NewYearSameMe16 · 19/11/2025 12:15

truthsayers · 19/11/2025 08:51

I agree. And mumsnetters are frequently competitively anorexic on weight loss threads, where 8 stone, size 8 posters chat about their pot belly and being tubby. As if.
It will all come out.
I remember having conversations about the spice girls in the 90’s, with friends who declared that they weren’t underweight and it was just all the dancing they did.
I said that they probably had eating disorders.
It was denied by my friend and by the spice girls.
And years later, at least 3 of the spice girls, Mel C, Geri and Victoria Beckham, have all spoken publicly about their eating disorders.

I actually just finished watching Victoria’s documentary and also the Girlbands Forever one and how their bodies were pulled apart in the media was a total disgrace. No wonder many of them had eating disorders!

A pp jumped down my neck about commenting on women’s bodies, when in the 90s, Victoria was getting weighed on live tv a few months after having a baby. That was disgusting but today in general, I think people hope Ariana and Cynthia are OK and if not, they get some help.

Dweetfidilove · 19/11/2025 11:45

YABU! 'This woman' has a name - Cynthia Erivo - and both women are acting strangely. As are you, @BelatrixLestrange 😒.

BatchCookBabe · 19/11/2025 11:34

They do seem kind of 'intertwined,' almost like they're inseperable. And their behaviour/demeanour is a little bit strange. I agree also, that Ariana looks ill. Cynthia doesn't look too perky either. Both attractive young women who seem to have been affected by the fame bestowed upon them.

On the second clip that pops up, they can barely function in those ludicrous dresses! I don't think Cynthia is creepy and narcissistic though @BelatrixLestrange I just think she just really likes Ariana... I think Ariana likes her too. They're just good mates I think! I have no idea why you - or anyone else is calling them 'narcs.' You don't know them, and they seem nice enough to me.

I wish them well. But yes, they don't look very well. I think it's a bit sad that famous women are made to feel that the only way they can be loved, recognised, and famous, (and stay in work) is to be, and stay thin. I remember Kate Winslet, just after she had her first child, she put on 4-5 stone, and she said she HAS to lose it all, or she will not get any more acting work.

I'm not having a go at Cynthia and Ariana by the way (or anyone who is quite thin,) but I don't feel this is how they normally look. And I don't think they're a healthy weight.

BatchCookBabe · 19/11/2025 11:34

ThatCyanCat · 19/11/2025 11:27

Cynthia got right between Ariana and that loon who tried to rush her in Singapore. She was properly using her body to shield Ariana. That was brave, he could have been armed or completely insane. I think that shows that whatever else is going on, she does genuinely care about Ariana and she's courageous.

This. ^

ThatCyanCat · 19/11/2025 11:27

Cynthia got right between Ariana and that loon who tried to rush her in Singapore. She was properly using her body to shield Ariana. That was brave, he could have been armed or completely insane. I think that shows that whatever else is going on, she does genuinely care about Ariana and she's courageous.

TheWorldIsCrushingMe · 19/11/2025 10:50

AG clearly isn't comfortable in her own skin. She's always changing her look and voice (not in a 'refresh!' kind of way, but in an entirely different persona kind of way - look up her black fishing, Asian fishing phases etc.)

I do think that if she's not getting help, this latest incarnation might be her last. She looks desperately ill. Maybe Erivo is trying to support her but it just comes off as weird.

goldenmagicbiscuittin · 19/11/2025 10:08

hamstersarse · 17/11/2025 18:29

They both seem to be possessed...by narcissism

That word is thrown around too much, but in this case, not enough.

Hahaha! THIS.

They both seem like complete narcs to me. My God, the attention seeking is off the charts.

surreygirly · 19/11/2025 10:07

Who cares

SlothMama14 · 19/11/2025 09:54

Sartre · 19/11/2025 09:45

This can go both ways. I’m personally happiest and feel my most confident when I’m a size 10 (I’m 5 ft 7 so this is slim for my height). If I go much above this, my BMI also gets slightly high and I feel like shit.

Oh I'm definitely not happy with the bigger number on the scale! I feel enormous when I see how much I weigh. But if I don't think about it, I'm absolutely fine and just truck along with life. I do wonder if I have reverse body dysmorphia – I look in the mirror and think I look slim but the scale and my jean size tell me otherwise!

JHound · 19/11/2025 09:50

They’re both weird but they are both accepting of each other’s weirdness so shrugs

Sartre · 19/11/2025 09:45

SlothMama14 · 19/11/2025 09:41

We need to see more stories like this so that young women know that curviness is OK.

This x a million! Chelsea on Selling Sunset looks amazing now she's gained 40lbs. I also think Kelly Brook looks absolutely gorgeous on I'm A Celeb. I've just been reading an article where Kelly says she has no plans to ever lose weight because when she was at her thinnest she was also at her unhappiest. That really struck a chord. When I was my slimmest I lived on my own, wasn't in a relationship – and I was really lonely. Now I'm three stone heavier with a loving partner and DD, living in my dream house and doing my dream job. Yet every day I feel bad about my weight because society pressures me to think I should. I'm an hourglass like Kelly with similar big boobs and instead of embracing my size I hide it under baggy clothes.

I'd love a new system to replace BMI too.

As for Ariana, she seems really fragile and I wouldn't be surprised if she has delayed PTSD from the bombing.

This can go both ways. I’m personally happiest and feel my most confident when I’m a size 10 (I’m 5 ft 7 so this is slim for my height). If I go much above this, my BMI also gets slightly high and I feel like shit.

Sartre · 19/11/2025 09:44

They both seem really odd and Ariana looks like she needs to be hospitalised for an eating disorder.

SlothMama14 · 19/11/2025 09:41

BatshitOutofHell · 19/11/2025 08:36

I have never seen anyone look as beautiful on weight loss drugs as Motsi does. So, I suspect that her weight loss is natural - all that dancing! I think she gained weight before because she had a baby (?).

As for the others - the jury is out. I hate seeing women make themselves so scrawny and then they lie and say they are naturally thin (I'm looking at you, Victoria Beckham). Naturally thin women don't look the way that they do.

Does anyone watch Selling Sunset (awful I know but we all have our guilty pleasures). One of the women on that has gained quite a bit of weight (she reckons about 40lbs) and looks absolutely gorgeous. We need to see more stories like this so that young women know that curviness is OK.

Sorry for the stream of thought, but I was thinking the other day that bmi as a way of categorising health may one day be abolished and that there will be other markers of health apart from weight. Some on MN opine about the normalisation of overweight, but perhaps it SHOULD be normalised because it's normal.

We need to see more stories like this so that young women know that curviness is OK.

This x a million! Chelsea on Selling Sunset looks amazing now she's gained 40lbs. I also think Kelly Brook looks absolutely gorgeous on I'm A Celeb. I've just been reading an article where Kelly says she has no plans to ever lose weight because when she was at her thinnest she was also at her unhappiest. That really struck a chord. When I was my slimmest I lived on my own, wasn't in a relationship – and I was really lonely. Now I'm three stone heavier with a loving partner and DD, living in my dream house and doing my dream job. Yet every day I feel bad about my weight because society pressures me to think I should. I'm an hourglass like Kelly with similar big boobs and instead of embracing my size I hide it under baggy clothes.

I'd love a new system to replace BMI too.

As for Ariana, she seems really fragile and I wouldn't be surprised if she has delayed PTSD from the bombing.

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 19/11/2025 09:33

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 19/11/2025 09:32

I'm not offended.
Everyone has an opinion just like we have arseholes. We don't have to agree. 🤷🏼‍♂️
I just don't like to see women put other women down, or anyone for that matter. And before you tell me that no one's putting her down, yes they do.
I'm not saying that you are, but a lot of people who make comments on her are just rude and not necessary.
"Eat a burger" for example.
Would someone really say that to an anorexic?

She had her memory erased or something like that and then she was as thin.

I have no issue with how they behave.
I'm quite odd often and I dgaf.

I just don't like seeing people talk ill of her (and CO).

I agree on the not for children part though.
Wicked 2 seems a lot darker than the first....

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 19/11/2025 09:32

popcornandpotatoes · 19/11/2025 08:52

Ariana has been a hugely successful world famous popstar in the years since the terror attack. It is only since Wicked that she has started behaving like a baby bird.

I am a fan of both of them and think they are both hugely talented people but their behaviour is undeniably weird. I don't see how that is offensive to you?

So fucking what? They both look ill and it is concerning, especially given they are in the middle of a massive press tour for a film that is being marketed at children. Quite why it is being marketed at children is another question for me, but hey ho

I'm not offended.
Everyone has an opinion just like we have arseholes. We don't have to agree. 🤷🏼‍♂️
I just don't like to see women put other women down, or anyone for that matter. And before you tell me that no one's putting her down, yes they do.
I'm not saying that you are, but a lot of people who make comments on her are just rude and not necessary.
"Eat a burger" for example.
Would someone really say that to an anorexic?

She had her memory erased or something like that and then she was as thin.

I have no issue with how they behave.
I'm quite odd often and I dgaf.

I just don't like seeing people talk ill of her (and CO).

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