Labour's new policies for asylum seekers

This is a very good post. Reform haven’t been able to manage their way out of a paper bag yet. I think they see themselves as kingmakers, so to speak, or chaos agents. I repeat that Nigel has always been about Nigel .

{mention:BeckyAMumsnet}@BeckyAMumsnet @BeckyAMumsnet I really really want to understand the reasoning behind leaving very obvious troll but deleting and warning others about troll hunting.

You wound me. I’ll have you know that I receive many private messages of approval from users on this website who thank me for making a strong case for what the left has to offer.

I’d wager you yourself are not so popular, I don’t think I’ve even ever seen you round these parts before 💅

Well… why isn’t Reeves doing a lot of things is the question! They / she is considering it - of course it’s contentious - but it’s being considered. If you wanna hear more Gary’s Exonomics - he explains things in plain English (which I prefer rather than politico jargon….)

Reform won’t win the next election - they don’t want the responsibility of governing. (See chaos at Kent county council). What they are succeeding at is directing policy without even being in power, which in my view is extremely dangerous. They have the backing of so much ££ support - they are literally running an election scale campaign 24/7. My worry is they continue to win support - they become part of a coalition with the equally vile DUP - you’d hope even the Tories as a whole wouldn’t get into bed with reform.

That’s about 2% of the wealthy though? Those that like to show off to their mates about how wealthy they are. Real people don’t think like that. It would be so easy if they did but they don’t.

If there was any merit in what you are saying don’t you think Rachel Reeves would clutch it with both hands? Shout of from the rooftops? Why isn’t she doing it do you think?

I had forgotten that @Swiftasthewind advocated removing the vote from the British white working class when I said earlier that they had some interesting opinions.

For avoidance of doubt, this is not one of them - not ‘interesting in a good way, that is.

Like the remark about preferring Chinese hegemony to American might and the stupid challenge that we find refereed papers proving a negative, this type of post seems to me simply designed to wind people up. It isn’t even well reasoned enough to debate. I feel sure the poster knows this.

Check it out - campaign by multi ££ millionaires asking to pay more tax :)

https://patrioticmillionaires.uk/latest-news/millionaires-urge-mps-tax-us-the-super-rich-to-avoid-cuts-and-invest-in-britain

Well they obviously can, hence why we got Brexit and why we’ll be getting the fourth reich in 2029, so look forward to that.

Or;

you could all listen to what I say and advert that disaster once and for all. Is that really a tough choice to make?

Check this out a campaign by the wealthy to tax them more :)

https://patrioticmillionaires.uk/latest-news/millionaires-urge-mps-tax-us-the-super-rich-to-avoid-cuts-and-invest-in-britain

We need the public sector to invest. Hence we need more via wealth tax as a start. But also the point of a wealth tax is a rebalancing of wealth distribution too.

I’ll side step your comments about saving workers who are on sick leave….

If the government declare an annual wealth tax from the outset there is NO WAY the wealthy would hang around. What planet are you on???

Haha! Agree - here’s the link to the campaign. Think they want to encourage all wealthy to follow suit.

https://patrioticmillionaires.uk/latest-news/millionaires-urge-mps-tax-us-the-super-rich-to-avoid-cuts-and-invest-in-britain

We all like them - nothing divisive or bad about either the poorest of the wealthiest. It’s just saying the wealthiest to pay that little bit more tax. No brainer :)

Who’s going to invest though? The government cant borrow to invest as it is wasting so much money and not taking welfare cuts and tax rises seriously so the bond market thinks it’s a joke, and the government has so many anti business policies (not being able to sack a worker who you employ then instantly goes on long term sick with ‘stress’, planning laws making building a factory nigh on impossible) no companies want to move here.

There's plenty of news out there and a danger that we'll all end up in our own bubbles watching GBNews but not Channel 4 and reading only the Telegraph and Express OR Guardian and Mirror.

Although social media going to separate us even more.

I'm never quite sure where this Real World actually is. It often seems to be a creation of those who cite it. I worked in the public sector. Still had to get a mortgage and collect qualifications and do all sorts of things that felt pretty real to me. I didnt have a job for life and was made redundant so that cliche about jobbsecurity didnt work out for me.

My brother works in the private sector at bank in the City of London so some might argue that his world is less real than mine. I think we all live in the real world but with different experiences.

Oh dear, it seems I have upset the peasantry 😕

Ouch! have i touched a nerve?

So the BBC shut down debate? Left dominated media??? You really are funny!!

Like i said, the Cons were in for 14 years, any shutting down of debate was by them or allowed by them.

I don’t think it would be a one off firstly - it would be a regular, annual tax. Take an individual who has assets - eg property - valued at £40m, cash wealth valued at £5m - which likely wouldn’t be just sat in a savings account it would be invested in instruments that would generate interest and returns. A tax of 1% would eat into for example, the interest earned on investments and yes, the value of assets. Which should be generating and also providing leverage for further wealth creation. There are right now multi millionaires asking to pay more tax (and full disclosure - this is not me :). I am a landowner and own multiple properties but I’d be happy to pay that bit more tax, even tho no where near the £10m wealth market too.

Of course. Starmer and co relied on far right, racist and extremist until a couple of weeks ago. Culture wars and all that.

It’s only recently it’s changed due to threat to political careers.

The left dominate media especially the BBC, publishing the arts, public sector etc. In the real world, has immigration been discussed without the word "racist" being used at regular intervals?

"You do spout some nonsense". Bit rude particularly coming from you.