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Labour's new policies for asylum seekers

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frommyheadtomyfeet · 17/11/2025 07:51

Are rumoured to follow Denmark's, which include the seizure of valuables from people arriving here to pay their accommodation costs.

Is anyone else disgusted by this?! How will it work, they can take people's jewellery, phones etc., and leave them with nothing? What sort of message does that send?

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LilyTheLD77 · 17/11/2025 08:43

Never thought I'd say this but they should just actually bring back the Rwanda scheme. It was a stupid mistake by Labour to abandon it

Boomer55 · 17/11/2025 08:43

frommyheadtomyfeet · 17/11/2025 08:09

It’s in the guardian.

The Guardian is accurate as the DM is in true reporting of anything,🤷‍♀️

frommyheadtomyfeet · 17/11/2025 08:42

moulinrougecancan · 17/11/2025 08:41

No it isnt, it's exactly the same. My dad couldnt live without care and was vulnerable so he was forced to give up his home.

You explain to me exactly how that is "different"

Because your dad was wealthy and didn’t face the risk of having everything he owned stolen, just to be returned home with nothing?

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PandoraSocks · 17/11/2025 08:42

Thank you, I couldn't find it!

frommyheadtomyfeet · 17/11/2025 08:42

BlueJuniper94 · 17/11/2025 08:40

This is one of two things, either someone posing as an extremist with an aim of shifting the discourse further right. Or someone who hasnt genuinely engaged with any of these issues and this is all about moral vanity and projecting their own status as a kind person. Someone who can do so confident they won't experience the consequences of what they propose

No I just think the flag shatters whining about the country being “overpopulated” are racist. The issue isn’t the people fleeing war torn countries.

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poetryandwine · 17/11/2025 08:42

The other aspect reported on the BBC and, if memory serves, in the Guardian article linked above, is that a general pathway to settlement for refugees is proposed to be expanded to 20 years. Meanwhile they can be returned if HMG deems that conditions have changed. People’s lives will be in limbo.

The good news is that there may be a special pathway for students and employment might be eased somewhat - currently the UK has amongst the most prohibitive employment restrictions on those with asylum claims in process, together with some of the longest processing times. A bad combination.

moulinrougecancan · 17/11/2025 08:41

frommyheadtomyfeet · 17/11/2025 08:40

It’s a bit different selling a house to find care than stealing jewellery!!!

No it isnt, it's exactly the same. My dad couldnt live without care and was vulnerable so he was forced to give up his home.

You explain to me exactly how that is "different"

BlueJuniper94 · 17/11/2025 08:41

frommyheadtomyfeet · 17/11/2025 08:39

But what they will class as sentimental items is different to what actually is a sentimental item. Seizing items of value because you don’t think people deserve to have them is disgusting.

We can't all have what we deserve. That's life.

moulinrougecancan · 17/11/2025 08:40

Seizing items of value because you don’t think people deserve to have them is disgusting

What about my dad's home? is that not of sentimental value to him? why arent you up in arms about that then

frommyheadtomyfeet · 17/11/2025 08:40

moulinrougecancan · 17/11/2025 08:37

Why shouldn’t people have to give up assets to fund their accommodation?
people who have lived and contributed in the UK their whole lives are forced to sell assets to fund their own care. How is this different? If you said jewellery was exempt people would convert their cash to bracelets

THIS. You have got to be kidding OP? when my dad developed dementia we had to sell his house to pay for his care (also a vulnerable person). He was utterly heartbroken.

This was after his entire life paying tax into the system. Why is this perfectly acceptable and yet someone coming here to live a funded life isnt? I have great empathy for those fleeing horrific regimes but you cannot say it's fine for UK citizens to have to sell their assets to live in this country but not others. That is deeply unfair.

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It’s a bit different selling a house to find care than stealing jewellery!!!

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BlueJuniper94 · 17/11/2025 08:40

frommyheadtomyfeet · 17/11/2025 08:17

I’d rather call a spade a spade.

This is one of two things, either someone posing as an extremist with an aim of shifting the discourse further right. Or someone who hasnt genuinely engaged with any of these issues and this is all about moral vanity and projecting their own status as a kind person. Someone who can do so confident they won't experience the consequences of what they propose

frommyheadtomyfeet · 17/11/2025 08:39

JassyRadlett · 17/11/2025 08:38

So it's a little different to what was reported by the OP, particularly as the minister quoted explicitly rules out items of sentimental value. I wonder if this is why OP isn't keen to share the link.

Comparing it to 'Nazi policies' is completely ridiculous. Incidentally, when my relatives were fleeing actual Nazis, they were very glad of the jewellery they managed to smuggle out as selling it helped them to survive in the countries that gave them asylum.

And to be honest, if you can't see the perspective on this one of someone on the breadline in Britain who's had to sell items of sentimental value to them and their family in order to pay a bill, while asylum seekers do not have to pay towards their costs despite having assets, then your empathy has some quite glaring blind spots.

But what they will class as sentimental items is different to what actually is a sentimental item. Seizing items of value because you don’t think people deserve to have them is disgusting.

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 17/11/2025 08:39

The article specifically says they wouldn’t take jewellery with sentimental value.
I don’t know who is arriving here with cars and e-bikes. And I very much hope they wouldn’t take phones.

Lifesd · 17/11/2025 08:38

HearMeOutt · 17/11/2025 08:17

Why is it racist to say our country is overpopulated to a disastrous degree and we cannot continue to take half a million people a year?

I agree with this - it is people like you OP who shut down legitimate debate about the detrimental impact unchecked migration is having on the UK that are paving the way for an even more divided Britain.

JassyRadlett · 17/11/2025 08:38

So it's a little different to what was reported by the OP, particularly as the minister quoted explicitly rules out items of sentimental value. I wonder if this is why OP isn't keen to share the link.

Comparing it to 'Nazi policies' is completely ridiculous. Incidentally, when my relatives were fleeing actual Nazis, they were very glad of the jewellery they managed to smuggle out as selling it helped them to survive in the countries that gave them asylum.

And to be honest, if you can't see the perspective on this one of someone on the breadline in Britain who's had to sell items of sentimental value to them and their family in order to pay a bill, while asylum seekers do not have to pay towards their costs despite having assets, then your empathy has some quite glaring blind spots.

moulinrougecancan · 17/11/2025 08:37

Why shouldn’t people have to give up assets to fund their accommodation?
people who have lived and contributed in the UK their whole lives are forced to sell assets to fund their own care. How is this different? If you said jewellery was exempt people would convert their cash to bracelets

THIS. You have got to be kidding OP? when my dad developed dementia we had to sell his house to pay for his care (also a vulnerable person). He was utterly heartbroken.

This was after his entire life paying tax into the system. Why is this perfectly acceptable and yet someone coming here to live a funded life isnt? I have great empathy for those fleeing horrific regimes but you cannot say it's fine for UK citizens to have to sell their assets to live in this country but not others. That is deeply unfair.

Firdbeeder · 17/11/2025 08:36

Have you seen the size of our national debt OP? Who would you propose covers the cost of housing these people if using any of their own assets is so dreadfully racist? How much more tax should we as UK residents pay for this? Which of our services should we cut? How should we deal with the ‘racist rot’ instead of literally any form of deterrent is off the cards?
’What about my Nan’s necklace?’ is sentimental nonsense and tbh your privilege is showing.

Teaandtoastserveddaily · 17/11/2025 08:35

Op it's not racist to be sick of services being unavailable because there's too many people living in our small country.

Most of the people arriving here aren't 'fleeing' anything they just see that the UK will give them handouts, which we will. It's disastrous and needs to stop. Saying that isn't racist.

poetryandwine · 17/11/2025 08:33

HoskinsChoice · 17/11/2025 08:07

What's your source for the UK government planning to take valuables from immigrants please?

It was all over the news yesterday - the Home Sec was on the BBC and this was reported in the broadsheets.

Haven’t RTFT so apologies to PP who have already replied

EasternStandard · 17/11/2025 08:32

HearMeOutt · 17/11/2025 08:30

This. Basically it’s ‘racist’ to not have an open border policy where we move heaven and earth to give anyone who turns up exactly what they want, it’s racist to expect anything from them in return and also racist to object if they go on to commit crimes having been given all of this. The actual citizens of this country who live here and pay tax (who are not at all necessarily white themselves) have to watch their quality of life sink and sink, and carry on working uncomplainingly, to fund the above.

Similar policies were racist until two minutes ago. Starmer and co were sure on that.

The stuff the op mentions won’t change anything bar set the scene for tougher measures at the next GE.

ShesTheAlbatross · 17/11/2025 08:32

HoskinsChoice · 17/11/2025 08:29

Can you provide a link please? There's various articles about immigration on the Guardian website but I can't see anything about the UK government taking phones or jewellery.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/nov/17/refugees-jewellery-asylum-home-office

Refugees’ jewellery could be seized to pay for asylum costs, says Home Office minister

Idea borrowed from Denmark is latest attempt to reduce number of refugees coming to UK

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/nov/17/refugees-jewellery-asylum-home-office

HoskinsChoice · 17/11/2025 08:32

HoskinsChoice · 17/11/2025 08:29

Can you provide a link please? There's various articles about immigration on the Guardian website but I can't see anything about the UK government taking phones or jewellery.

Found it!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/nov/17/refugees-jewellery-asylum-home-office

Refugees’ jewellery could be seized to pay for asylum costs, says Home Office minister

Idea borrowed from Denmark is latest attempt to reduce number of refugees coming to UK

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/nov/17/refugees-jewellery-asylum-home-office

BlueJuniper94 · 17/11/2025 08:30

frommyheadtomyfeet · 17/11/2025 08:03

I’m sorry but targeting the most vulnerable people as opposed to the vile racists is what’s going to make it worse.

Imagine you’re fleeing a war torn country. You might pick to take things with you, like jewellery. I know if I were to flee, I’d take my nan’s necklace with me as it has a lot of sentimental value. If that got stolen from me by a government I’d be absolutely bereft. It’s reminiscent of Nazi policies.

Then we should have been more proactive about those who were not fleeing war torn countries before we got here.

HearMeOutt · 17/11/2025 08:30

HermioneWeasley · 17/11/2025 08:21

Why shouldn’t people have to give up assets to fund their accommodation?

people who have lived and contributed in the UK their whole lives are forced to sell assets to fund their own care. How is this different? If you said jewellery was exempt people would convert their cash to bracelets

the point of the policy is to make the UK less attractive. What other countries have found is the only solution is to stop the demand from people who want to enter illegally.

if you’re desperate, genuinely fleeing for your life, then you’ll trade your jewellery for safety. If you’re shopping around for a place to be but still popping back to Afghanistan or wherever for holidays then this might make you reconsider.

This. Basically it’s ‘racist’ to not have an open border policy where we move heaven and earth to give anyone who turns up exactly what they want, it’s racist to expect anything from them in return and also racist to object if they go on to commit crimes having been given all of this. The actual citizens of this country who live here and pay tax (who are not at all necessarily white themselves) have to watch their quality of life sink and sink, and carry on working uncomplainingly, to fund the above.

Livelovebehappy · 17/11/2025 08:30

Hilarious. Good luck with that. I'll bet there aren't going to be many carrying pockets full of valuables, bearing in mind most are economic migrants. And a few thousand pounds from the sale of a few valuables would probably cover their keep for a couple of weeks, at most.