Labour's new policies for asylum seekers

Much easier being in opposition isn’t it, Starmer?

And we take a smaller number than those countries.

The 1951 UN Treaty to which the UK is a signatory does not require this. It is unclear at best whether the UK law has any teeth

If Labour cannot get immigration reform through, then you can add that to their inability to get welfare reform through.

That makes them in government, but not in power.

The electorate did not sign up for this.

Starmer needs to get his back benches in line.

@EasternStandard
It was never a means for mass removals BUT the UK has built into its immigration rules that asylum seekers can be required to claim asylum in a first safe country - I don’t know if Germany or ROI does.
Anyway, while I’m heading to work at the moment the point I was making re the DC isn’t “now we can’t remove anyone because Brexit” but it’s one method of facilitating removals and of encouraging voluntary returns that we no longer have. That’s all I was saying about Brexit (well other than the Eurodac loss).
I just spotted this which discusses these topics with more up to date information that I have (re so called inadmissible claims, deterrent factors and the DC).

researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-9724/CBP-9724.pdf

I think the people of Wales and Scotland will step up to the plate in that regard. They have always been a welcoming bunch (especially the Scottish), it is highly likely they will show us up with their integration record.

If asylum seekers could make a positive impact on their communities - as farm labourers (jobs the British do not want) or fishermen, etc - that might help a lot.

Going by figures that would mean Wales and Scotland. Are people ready for that?

Are we more or less safe following importing thousands of undocumented men?

Fair enough that asylum seekers should be housed where it is less crowded. We have such areas. But as I said this needs to be in the context of a supportive package.

Divorce it from racism. I am still reeling from the fact that AI told me this morning that the Hero of Huntingdon was a train passenger with a British name. (I remember it but the fellow did nothing wrong - in fact he was a secondary hero - so I won’t mention it). Samir Zitouni was so clearly the key figure, even when the incident was discussed in Parliament. No one I am aware of took the chance to mention he is an Algerian immigrant. If we are going to highlight bad bad behaviour by immigrants and asylum seekers we should also highlight good behaviour.

You are a joy let’s bulldoze the lot

‘Green spaces aren’t necessary’.

Jesus wept.

There is so much space in England. I mentioned the Lake District but you’ve got the Peaks, and most of Devon is uninhabited. Plenty of space to create new settlements for recently arrived migrants to settle in and contribute positively to society. We import our food so green spaces really aren’t necessary.

I think England has highest population density discounting the tiny countries you mention. So maybe the opposition has grounds on that basis.

I don’t know the internal country breakdown but agree Wales and, famously, Scotland, are surely less populated than England. Yes, the countries I listed are among the most dense in Europe. The more dense countries are very small - Vatican City, Monaco, Malta, etc.

The background here is that in a PP I listed a number of well respected sources refuting @Rexinasaurus ’s claim.

Still no sources, I see

What are you on? Seriously.

As an example, the news and police reports confirmed one of the men arrived on a small boat and was from Iran. And was living an asylum hotel. What about that are you reading ‘he might be British’.

I think you're over egging the pudding now.

The population density must be different between Scotland, Wales and England. Where is England in that table?

Is it the highest in Europe or close to?

The crimes absolutely do need to be minimised and those soundly convicted should be deported.

But this should be part of a comprehensive package of improvements to the asylum system. Processing applications quickly would be an important start. Allowing applications from outside the UK would be another - some on this thread don’t seem to understand that you must be in the country already in order to apply. One way or another that necessitates a lie.

Similar employment conditions to the US, Canada and most EU countries would help keep asylum seekers gainfully occupied. I wouldn’t mind if asylum seekers were dispersed to areas of national need to work as long as they were fairly paid and could live decently, with help provided to integrate into the community. If I were in that position I would welcome the trade off, compared to what I have seen about asylum hotels and the so called food many provide.

The UK has lower population density than Turkey, the Netherlands and Belgium. Germany has 85% the density and takes on the order of twice the refugees. We have room. We do need the economic growth to sustain them.

Excluding Greater London, the population density of the UK is lower than Germany and greater than Switzerland.