Labour's new policies for asylum seekers

Quite

Being born here does not automatically presume you are born with British values unfortunately.

Oh stop it. You're talking utter rubbish. Britain has not always been a diverse country. Where were all the people who were actually from here and who were of course most of the population? In the last 1000 years the main period of immigration was this century.

There's nothing wrong with us being a mainly white country until very recently. Its simple fact. No need to make up stuff to pretend we were multi cultural. Look at any photo taken in this country in the last 100 years. We were never "diverse" until recently.

Indeed.

There's a huge problem with second generation immigrants and radicalisation, for all the left trot out the "see, British!" as some sort of attempted gotcha.
Eg. the Bataclan killers were French and Belgian-born. The Manchester attacker was born in Britain. Etc.

Embarrasing for them really.

Nice. Let's hope they don't forget to harvest any gold teeth too. Maybe we could insist they all donate a kidney?

Hmmm..topical....the BBC dont have an agenda at all do they...

Most of what they put out is lies especially children's programmes on "diversity in history".

Ok so?

And also the BBC did a wonderful series recently that showed a realistic depiction of the actual demographics of 11th century England. Clue, it’s very diverse actually.

Well actually its mainly a Pakistani Muslim thing carried out mainly by members of particular Pakistani tribes against non Muslim children. Fact, unfortunately.

No that’s not the case at all. Black people were actually the very first Britons, they likely built Stonehenge and even many skeletons have been found of black Anglo Saxons. Also look at Cheddarman who is one of our oldest ancestors, he wouldn’t look out of place in modern sub Saharan Africa. We owe our very existence as a nation to diversity.

So you don’t understand proportionality either. Dearie me.

There is no point to this type of data other than to sow division and hate. If there are discrepancies between ethnic crime rates then they are usually explained by oppression by the majority group but that’s never factored into the statistics. And then you end up with the grooming fiasco like in this country, where people now associate grooming gangs with Pakistani Brits when is actually a white British thing.

That's not true at all. We've been fairly homogeneous until the late 90s. There's been more immigration in the last 20 years or so than the last 1000 years. Its massive and unprecedented. And we can all see it (assuming we can see).

Of course you don’t. Look at the evidence in the link.

https://thecritic.co.uk/germany-is-acknowledging-the-unspeakable/

Why Germany? Thanks for asking. Because it’s very similar to the uk. Except Germany has (now) been allowed to collect and publish data on foreign / immigrant crime including sex offences. Its horrific. We are not allowed to see such data in the uk.

As the article says - acknowledging the unspeakable.

No idea why you keep linking statistics to Germany, they are not relevant to the UK at all and I don’t even know the veracity of those claims, I just don’t believe them at all.

Bit like Germany I guess..

‘The Germany-wide statistics on sexual violence were also sobering. An internal study by the German federal law enforcement agency, leaked to a Zurich newspaper, revealed that asylum-seekers have committed some 7,000 sexual assaults (ranging from groping to gang-rape ) between 2015 and 2023. Although they make up only 2.5 per cent of the population, asylum-seekers made up 13.1 per cent of all sexual-assault suspects in 2021.
In 2023, there were 761 gang-rapes registered in Germany — almost two per day; 47.5 per cent of the suspects were foreigners. The frequency of such crimes — which were rare in Germany as late as the 1990s — has hovered between 600 and 800 per year for the past 7 years. The statistics go on for page after mind-numbing (or mind-boggling) page. Berlin’s police chief delivered the upshot: “Bluntly stated, our numbers show that violence in Berlin is young, male, and has a non-German background.” What is straining German law enforcement (and society) is the sheer number of young male asylum-seekers. Germany famously relaxed its border controls in 2015-2016, permitting an influx of some 1.3 million people from countries such as Syria, Afghanistan, Iran, and Turkey. Then as now, about 70 per cent of asylum-seekers were male and most are under 35 years old.Current numbers are off this peak but still high: in 2023, 351,000 asylum-seekers entered Germany, more than the population of Germany’s former capital Bonn. Most of these men have no German skills, little education (a 2016 study revealed only 34 per cent could read the Latin alphabet), no experience with alcohol, and no experience interacting with women not related to them.’

Exactly! However, cash in hand jobs and mini mart shops are also an incentive. Also, a criminal haven zone for the ones coming to rob and create chaos.

The culture of the UK is immigration and diversity. We have always been a wonderfully diverse country so nothing is changing at all. Don’t buy in to the right wing narrative.

I think it’ll be a strange system if people come over and get jobs picking fruit or whatever and then can’t settle down.

You’ll get a steady flow of younger men crossing the Channel and are you really ok with just using them for labour in that way?

300 million people are on the move at any one time and we are a highly attractive destination with no effective borders.

https://thecritic.co.uk/germany-is-acknowledging-the-unspeakable/

The Germany-wide statistics on sexual violence were also sobering. An internal study by the German federal law enforcement agency, leaked to a Zurich newspaper, revealed that asylum-seekers have committed some 7,000 sexual assaults (ranging from groping to gang-rape ) between 2015 and 2023. Although they make up only 2.5 per cent of the population, asylum-seekers made up 13.1 per cent of all sexual-assault suspects in 2021.

In 2023, there were 761 gang-rapes registered in Germany — almost two per day; 47.5 per cent of the suspects were foreigners. The frequency of such crimes — which were rare in Germany as late as the 1990s — has hovered between 600 and 800 per year for the past 7 years. The statistics go on for page after mind-numbing (or mind-boggling) page. Berlin’s police chief delivered the upshot: “Bluntly stated, our numbers show that violence in Berlin is young, male, and has a non-German background.” What is straining German law enforcement (and society) is the sheer number of young male asylum-seekers.

Germany famously relaxed its border controls in 2015-2016, permitting an influx of some 1.3 million people from countries such as Syria, Afghanistan, Iran, and Turkey. Then as now, about 70 per cent of asylum-seekers were male and most are under 35 years old.Current numbers are off this peak but still high: in 2023, 351,000 asylum-seekers entered Germany, more than the population of Germany’s former capital Bonn. Most of these men have no German skills, little education (a 2016 study revealed only 34 per cent could read the Latin alphabet), no experience with alcohol, and no experience interacting with women not related to them.

That's a controversial point at the moment.