Labour's new policies for asylum seekers

How many countries do you think these people have transited - every one of which knows that the buck ultimately stops with the UK, as the end destination.

We are beyond diplomatic niceties - this is a global issue (European for the purposes of this thread), and even you must have seen the footage of French gendarmes idling standing by as boats depart.

Our problem is compounded by the enemy within - those who will not consider any hardening of immigration policy.

I applaud a radical approach to this issue.

More like putting them in prison until they answer the question. Why is it OK that someone rocks up demanding help and refuses to cooperate?

I would’ve guessed 0.1% or something. Nearly 1 in 100 is massive - about half a million people at least.

But if the majority are men who have left their family behind then how was the fleeing so urgent that they don’t have time to grab their papers?

Some legitimate asylum seekers do not have papers. These people don’t tend to hide their origins; they were just forced to flee without papers.

I would hazard a guess that those wanting to disguise their backgrounds are over-represented amongst the troublemakers.

Da! Ve haf vays of making you talk!

Most social housing in London is given to immigrants.

Our population has just over taken that of France for the first time. Whilst France has twice the land area.

0.8% of the population! That's huge!

There are ways to get people to say where they're from.

If you look at the statistics, in some London boroughs alone, around 80% Eritraens rely on social housing and a significant proportion rely on state benefits. Often this is driven by patriarchal mindsets of women running the household and not working. Obviously these are unsustainable figures and far higher than many other minority ethnic groups. That’s just one particular demographic. There are similar statistics among other minority ethnic East African groups who are more likely to claim asylum.

We accept nothing like half a million refugees per year.

According to gov.uk the number of refugees and asylum seekers in the UK us 0.8% if the population, or between 500,000 and 600,000 people total.

Please give us a source for your second paragraph. Because many internationally respected agencies such ad the UN, the International Red Cross, MSF (Doctors without Borders), Amnesty International and the Migration Observatory at Oxford University beg to differ.

I have asked PP for sources and not got a reply.

Is this happening? Who sends funds in that direction?

Plus I thought people were scraping by on a few pounds a week, cooking in showers and paying back debt to traffickers.

France have rolled us over, numerous times.

And continue to do so.

Spot on.

These Labour imbeciles forget that.

A lot of unemployed male immigrants - it could prove interesting.

Unemployment is rising due to Labours action. We won't be needing even low paid work soon from immigrants.

France is also several times bigger than the UK. Just saying.

So? They still can't control their own borders if all the illegals are tootling through. The EU allows borders to be closed so they can't argue Schenghen stops them. They just dont want to due to EU politics.

The thing is to stop them getting into UK waters in the first place. And I suspect harsher measures will end up being deployed to stop them unfortunately as would happen with an invasion.

How is controlling our borders (which have been abused for financial gain by people smugglers for years) and controlling the numbers of people who want to come to this country racist? It's something countries the world over do.

Plus, taking an approach like this will surely act as a deterrent to as many people risking their lives and drowing at sea? Wouldn't you say that was a good thing?

Beggars belief that people still trot out the cliched 'fleeing war torn countries' line. Some are, but the vast majority aren't. And why do you think it's the UK's role in the world to welcome absolutely everyone who wants to come here? It's entirely unsustainable.

They aren’t talking about confiscating people’s jewellery and phones on arrival. They are talking about people who get hundreds of pounds sent to them every month from family abroad and drive around in Audis while the taxpayer funds their accommodation. What they are saying is that those individuals who have cash assets and vehicles that many tax payers can’t afford should pay something towards their own accommodation. Although I’m not convinced too many asylum seekers are receiving hundreds of pounds a month in financial support from family and driving around in Audis.

They "most definitely" CPULD be net contributors to the UK in some/ many cases. What makes you so cetain that all asylum seekers go on to cost money?

To be fair, I don't have any figures but there CANNOT be zero asylum seekers who don't go on to contribute. Because we havent paid for the first 18 years of education and health then many asylum seekers would be LESS of a "burden" than low paid UK born people.

To be clear I dont want "open borders" or "unlimited migration". I'm thinking of starting a movement to remove hyperbole from discussions of important and sensitive subjects but I think that ship has sailed.