Labour's new policies for asylum seekers

I can't read if that's sarcasm or not🙈
I assume yes.

I knew people who did that and it was mind boggling. They literally paid smugglers to smuggle them back from next country because they gave up their citizensip etc.
It was not life or death of relative situations, just annual family visit.

Asylum seekers who return to their home countries on holiday will be denied refugee status under Labour’s new plans.

How cruel!

So should the many ‘’expat’’ British people who emigrate to different countries, don’t learn the language and just refuse to integrate, instead opening up English shops and restaurants and making little England. That’s all hunky dory though, isn’t it? The same standards we expect of others don’t apply to us. The British are staggeringly entitled and arrogant beyond belief.

I think it’s very sad, I would hope it wouldn’t happen. People are travelling here to escape troubles (whether economic or conflict). Taking their possessions is a low blow.

I have seen the stats on unemployment in the under-25 group and the (more shocking ones) on economic inactivity. Agree that any skilled visa scheme should consider the level of demand and supply for those skills in the economy - not sure that the relevant comparison is the one you use of economic migrants that make 250k-500k, though as, even for 'magic circle' firms, those are not salaries to be commanded by under 25s).

As for the pull of language and historic links, it is interesting many of those illegal immigrants are neither from countries with historic links to the UK nor speak the language (in fact, some of the continued complains from the likes of the Refugee Council is that not enough government support is given for language lessons and other support for integration).

PS. I use the terms 'illegal immigrants' and 'legal immigrants' rather than 'asylum seekers' and 'economic migrants'. There is not perfect correlation and also language does matter.

I do have to agree with some of your point. Many immigrants are unhappy about many of the new ones. It surprises lots of left.
The rising issue means more issues for us, integrated, productive immigrants. Voicing our unhappy is essentially a self defemce if that makes sense.

But god forbid immigrant on here says they are unhappy with immigration situation. I saw someone being accused of pretending tp be an immigrant because immigrants could not possibly have issue with any part of immigration 😂

What’s not true? HMRC doesn’t care if you speak English well or not, you’re still going to pay the same taxes as a British citizen. Any obvious immigrant who is here legally (and illegals avoid GP surgeries and A&E because they have no NHS#) then they are also paying the extra annual surcharges.

So what is not true?

The UK is attractive as a legacy of the British Empire. We went all around the planet and now as a result our language is the most widely spoken in the world. It is far and away the #1 second language in the globe.

Asylum seekers think of here, and other English speaking countries as their top choices because they have already learned some of the language. In many cases we also directly or indirectly caused or were complicit in the wars and environmental disasters that caused them to flee for their lives. Eg the Afghan interpreters…

No amount of claim limits and hostility is going to change this enough to reduce the # of asylum seekers to any acceptable number to Reform and their ilk. I know this because right now asylum seekers are only a fraction of total immigration (less than 10%).

If too much immigration/population were the problem, there would not be this hyper focus on asylum seekers but on the economic migrants that make up between 250k-500k per year - those who come on skilled worker visas because companies prefer to hire a foreigner over a British uni graduate. You’ve seen the stats on unemployment for under 25s? And that our graduates cannot find work?

That’s not going to get much headline space because the politicians are all invested in the companies hiring in cheaper skilled foreign labour.

Its a function of their inherent incompetence, and division within the party.

The wishes of a minority of back benchers have held the country to ransom.

It is bonkers.

Can Labour launch any policy at the moment without it turning into a complete and utter shambles within half a day? So many u-turns is bonkers.

In some areas of the country this isn't true.

I have to visit DM's gp regularly. Every time there is a waiting room at least 70% full of people who can barely speak English. Same when I had to take her to a&e.

My family are immigrants too, but they worked hard and made sure they spoke the language and fit into English culture. This latest wave of legal immigration has been nothing but a detriment to the UKs finances and social cohesion. It is people like this and those defending their useless arses that will lead to far right politics and societal breakdown.

I don't blame the british public, we are mad too. I do blame those who have enabled this disaster to happen

My word, what a naive post, with respect.

This thread is a good example of the fact that a Reform government is inevitable.

Are people really as naive as they pretend to be on this thread. These are not asylum seekers, they are economic migrants. You can’t blame them, anyone would do the same. But the system is unsustainable and people are not happy with it. No matter what the leftie echo chamber of a small minority thinks.

Thanks for confirming.
Interesting suggestion - how do you envisage that working without increasing the attractiveness of the UK as a destination (some would say even more so)? Don't you think that ensuring more expedite processing and putting a limit to appeals is probably first point of call?

They’re in limbo. Can’t work. Get less than £10/week.
So with what money can they pay?

A good reform would be to allow asylum seekers that pass the criminal background check to live in the community and work a job while their claim is being processed. Then they’d be paying into the system, learning English, integrating.

Thanks for the information.
I assume (please correct me if wrong) that those arriving illegally and claiming asylum do not pay whilst their claim is being processed (I think average length of time is now around 1 year) and neither whilst they go through (on many occasions) appeals.

I am predicting riots. Some of the ‘protests’ we have seen are really racist riots being downplayed by the media because it’s big burly British wrapped in union jacks and St George flags.

Thank you for this information.

French Riviera 😃😃😃

I'm curious to know what you mean by 2026 not being different to 1981. Can you elaborate? Are you predicting riots? Or something else?

😂 If you think they are so amazing why do you keep trying to house them elsewhere. 1st Wales, Scotland and now Ireland.

We don't want asylum seeker towns in Wales thanks, wouldn't want to take them away from you and deprive you of the pleasure.

Why don't you convert your house into an asylum seekers HMO? Then you will get to actually live in a true multicultural marvel every day

That doesn't change my assertion that some or perhaps many asylum claimants can be contributors. It feels like some are saying that ALL asylum seekers (or at least the proportion that arrive illegally) are and always remain a drain on resources.

Its also quite possible for households to be reliant on benefits for the medium term but begin to contribute later.

Theresa May gave the hostile environment a go. It didn’t work. And I, for one, think that 2026 will be not much different from 1981. Disappointed in my own country doesn’t quite cover it.

Hi Becky. It was bit funny at first, but I do have to ask if anyone is actually reading the certain posts on here and if yes if they could tell us the logic behind not seeing it as trolling, please