Labour's new policies for asylum seekers

Persecution is not just war though is it? A conflict could end and asylum remain.

It’s women and children excluded by the new policies too.

Which law?

Also, @EasternStandard , people can be returned even after years if their country is deemed safe.

The aim seems to be to discourage.

Only one party has a politician sentenced to jail for a major crime that the judge has said undermined democracy. He committed this crime as an elected official. The aim was to create a positive impression of Russia, an enemy of Britain but not of his party’s de facto leader, who admires the Russian president very much.

This party is ignoring calls to investigate how this situation came to be.

There is no ‘what abouterey’ here. That would require comparable behaviour somewhere else.

Who will be excluded?

The law is in the process of being changed

Whataboutery is usually all they've got.

The law needs changing as its being abused. The wrong people are claiming asylum.

As Zia Yusuf said..its hardly 50 cent and Lil Wayne that are crossing over!

I have nothing against using frontiers as I said above. So what? But it is legal in international law to enter a country however you can and then make an asylum claim.

Stating otherwise promotes radicalisation. That may not kill us tomorrow but it is thought to be a problem in the long run

You’ve surely seen my post above elaborating on the details yesterday’s story about former Reform, Wales leader Nathan Gill.

None of what you say holds a candle to Mr Gill’s jail sentence of over 10 years. He was convicted of accepting bribes from someone believed by the FBI to be an asset of Russian intelligence. The fact that Nigel Farage is on record saying Vladimir Putin is the politician he most admires as Sir Ed Davey reminded us yesterday should also ring alarm bells.

Reform are resisting calls to investigate how this could have happened. Quite a contrast with Labour’s (rightful) investigation into anti-Semitism within the party. Labour is rightly taking ethics breaches seriously.

If the Lib Dems are bullying people feel free to say more. But any attempt to equate that with undermining democracy by making pro Russia speeches for bribes is beneath contempt.

Will we leave them their gold teeth? We have already crossed the line of Starmer quoting Mosley. Photographs of piles of belongings seem to have no meaning for people now. These headlines literally make me feel sick. It is shocking how easily people forget.

Pretty sure the legal way in is perfectly well known to you - through passport control.

There is not much point getting into how utterly unfit Reform Politicians are to hold office - the Lib Dems and the Greens habitually bully GC Women, plus the LDs have a roll call of abusive MPs over the years. The Tories have a couple and the Labour Party have lost Petey Manders and Angie and Tulip from the frontline - the possibilities range from ‘public office attracts the very people who should not be in it’ to ‘which of our lives would bear the level of scrutiny public figures are subject to’. Take your pick.

Too bad they show no sign of this yet.

The sentencing is the lead story on the BBC News at 6

To elaborate: Nathan Gill is the former head of Reform, Wales. Today he was sentenced at the Old Bailey to a jail term of 10.5 years for accepting bribes from Oleg Voloshyn to give pro-Russian speeches. Mr Voloshyn is considered by the FBI to be connected to the Russian intelligence services and has been sanctioned by the British and American governments.

One would think Reform would want to get to the bottom of this. Ha! While party leaders across the political spectrum are condemning Mr Gill, so far Reform have resisted calls from all other party leaders to investigate how this could have happened.

Sir Ed Davey today reminded Parliament that Mr Farage is on record saying that the politician he most admires is Vladimir Putin.

The security services are also increasing their warnings about foreign interference in the democratic processes of the UK.

We'd better hope they sort themselves out ASAP then.

Yes absolutely

they don’t need to be here

Romanians, or more precisely, the Roma.
Normal Romanians are generally decent people like everyone else.

It is a matter of public record that Reform has already lost over 5% of the councillors elected to local government just 6 months ago.

The former leader of Reform in Wales has just now been sentenced to 10.5 years in jail for accepting bribes from a Russian asset for making pro Russian speeches.

These are not growing pains.

I think the Albanian issue was fixed under the Conservatives. Presumably they are the stragglers.

You're assuming Kent was in great shape before Reform took over. As everyone said when Labour got in, just give them a chance. As I said, we need a viable alternative to the two main parties. Im hoping it is a centre right one and so Reform is looking like the main option. Fingers crossed for the good of the country that they are in good shape in 2029.

I think some of the other people from Eastern Europe (I’m not going to name group) who don’t work and live in social housing and don’t seem to abide by the rules should also be asked to go. Why are we paying for them.

Its not just Kent and what damage will they do whilst they are "learning" ?

As we've seen, in some aspects, with Labour, learning on the job isn't an option and just 16months in doesn't equal "failing", which as a "fair person" i'm sure you'll agree on.

After all, we gave the Tories 14 years.

Still several 100 Albanian families living here which Mahmood wants to send back, why was it never done earlier?

That’s pretty much what stops selling to people for Channel crossing.

The only thing really.

Now we need to send some of the other nations back too.