Labour's new policies for asylum seekers

If you make it a longer wait for right to remain it could mean more likelihood of criminals/ drug gangs/knife wielding crazies /disfunctional families being sent back as they have failed the rlequirements which would be great

Mental health is the new bad back.

No one Whois serious believes that over 1000 people a day going into disability benefits are all needy and genuine.

What cruelty? Cutting £5b from a £1.5trillion welfare spend over 5 years? It’s peanuts.

It’s the same kind of hyperbole being spluttered everywhere about the jewellery thing. Illegal migrants who are housed, given healthcare, education, and everything else that those already here can’t always get, may have to give up their valuables to help pay for it. How cruel.

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Prior to Brexit, the official statistics showed that EU migrants were on average net contributors

It's a pity that the official statistics didn't warn the Home Office that over 6 million people were going to apply to the EU Settlement Scheme - the Home Office were only expecting between 3.5 million and 4 million eligible applicants. The official statistics seem somewhat lacking to me.

I thought they offered. But really it’s Labour with the large majority.

This Labour government tried to cut welfare and ended up increasing it.

The claimed to want to grow the economy, and are killing it instead.

They are supposedly trying to reduce illegal migration, guess what…..

Total clowns.

The fact that 85% on this thread support the new rules shows that Labour have finally opened their ears to public sentiment.
Now to see if they go through with it.
If Labour don’t out Reform Reform, they know they are toast.
However their policies are worthless if we keep getting 1000+ illegal immigrants a week being rescued in the channel by RNLI.

According to data here (2023) 98,015 people born in Pakistan applied to the EU Settlement Scheme using EU freedom of movement rules: 36,968 EU citizens born in Pakistan plus 61,047 non-EEA family members.

(143,018 people born in India applied to the EU Settlement Scheme)

The United Kingdom is no longer a member of the European Union and no longer has freedom of movement. However, during the UK’s membership of the EU, freedom of movement was a major driver of immigration to the UK of people born outside of the EU.

https://ukandeu.ac.uk/diversity-eu-national-population-uk/

Well before now reducing the number of sectors that can recruit from abroad, restricting circumstances where migrants can bring family members into the UK, reducing the time foreign students can stay on after graduation, one in one out - I know this last one hasn’t yielded much in the way of results yet. In time these measures plus the new raft of measures will start to have an impact.

Re the OPs statement that refugees would have their assets seized, that is not at all true. What’s actually announced is that if asylum seekers have sufficient assets they will be asked to contribute to their accommodation costs. So what they receive from the state will be means tested. That seems fair. Some people that come here have significant wealth. Often it’s the rich ones who have the means to flee a regime while the poor ones have to stay.

You are so naive.m, it’s unreal.

Because just because you can risk travelling somewhere briefly doesn’t mean you can safely live there, especially if you have kids.
It’s one thing to go back to a war zone during a lull to check on elderly parents who won’t leave and sort out your paperwork, and another to feel safe living there with 3 children under 5 in your city flat with no bomb shelter and no guarantee you’ll be able to get the kids out when the bombing starts again.
Obviously not the same for everyone but that’s not far from the situation for one family I know, and I have heard several times from people who haven’t engaged their brains that that somehow makes them not genuine refugees.

Ok. So if asylum claims took months instead of a year to complete would that not save 6 months of accommodation costs?

I mean you can disagree with that but simply to say its all nonsense is almost as bad as those who immediately leap to the racism accusation.

Immigration since Brexit, from outside the EU is largely made up of net takers, not net contributors. You are right about the measures not getting through parliament. The far left Labour majority will block it. Immigration will stay out of control and Reform are almost guaranteed to win the next election. This will be the result of the 30 year open borders project, which since 2021 has lost all sanity.

Right. So nothing to see here, then. Sorry, no one is falling for this gaslighting anymore.

Oh no it wasn't.

Anything in particular?

I think what happens is that a very few refugees do this but extreme examples get reported as though it is widespread.

And to be fair, those refugees who go on to win Nobel Prizes, play in the Premier League or create a big business might be put forward by e.g. The Guardian in an "isn't this marvellous" kind of way.

The Labour proposal is that refugees can be returned once their home country is safe up to 20 years after they arrive. Which might mean schoolkids being sent to e.g. Syria even if they can't speak Arabic.

I mean… who knows. The fact we even had an MP stand up unashamedly in Parliament to advocate for first cousin marriage in the UK in 2025 is like a nightmare. Nobody ever comes forward and says ‘ok well I agree with high levels of immigration but yeah that’s fucked up’. They just ghost you and pretend you never said it, or squirm uncomfortably.

It’s like the rapes. I’ve posted several links now about women and girls dragged off the streets and raped and their first thought is ‘shhh we don’t talk about that’.

You can’t have a discussion with these people. We tried, I think the country has been trying for about 20 years now. But they won’t meet halfway, won’t consider anything other than ‘any talk of immigration is racist’. So the public have said fine, we will no longer engage with you, we will go for a hatchet job and vote Reform. They only have themselves to blame for this.

Sorry to say but your whole post was nonsense. like the error you yourself corrected.

Correction woops.

Surprised to see Pakaistan being a large in some Gov data I found. 46% grant rate. It doesn't say what the claims were for.

Although compared with the total numbers of migrants, numbers of refugees from individual countries would make a tiny blip in overall economic statistics.

Can anyone explain why asylum seekers go on ‘holiday’ to the countries they fled from as soon as they get asylum or settled status.

If this is not a farce, what is.

Pretending you can successfully import a population of 11.4 million people in 25 years, call it multiculture, pretend those people built the country and call everyone racist is the ultimate delusional madness.

Millions of people from 195 countries will never be a nation. Its global chaos. Expecting a system that developed slowly over centuries in a homogeneous society to suddenly adapt to millions speaking 195 languages is madness. The sheer numbers have caused terrible overcrowding, pay has been driven down by the massive over supply of labour and housing costs have massively increased due to demand. The pretence that we ever had or will have the capacity or system or desire to build to accommodate millions is a delusion. This chaos won't get any better now.

We are up to about 1 in 5 people in the country being from somewhere else, with a majority arriving in 30 years. This has happened by accident, there was no plan. It's destroyed the high trust society we had. People here hate each other now.