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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask: Married ladies, what’s one reality check single women need to hear?

238 replies

BeforeTheRingBlinds · 16/11/2025 19:15

Not the cliché stuff like “marriage takes work” or “communication is key”, we’ve heard that a million times. I mean the real stuff. The things no one really warns you about. The moments that blindside you. The shifts that happen after the ring or after kids or even just in the daily grind. What’s one truth you wish someone had told you before you got married, especially something that might surprise or sober up those of us who are still single?

AIBU to think that behind all the cute photos and wedding hype, there’s a whole layer of marriage that’s rarely spoken about?

(And yes, I’m ready for honesty not doom.)

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Jackiepumpkinhead · 21/11/2025 21:39

We don’t need your patronising advice. Most of us are single through choice as we already know what the majority men are like.

MNLurker1345 · 21/11/2025 21:21

Communication is infrastructure! Eventually men stop listening!

BUT, if you want your marriage to work, you have to take hold of the reins.

JHound · 20/11/2025 20:28

Muffinmam · 20/11/2025 13:41

My cousin that is married to a banker used to out earn him. However, she couldn’t work after having children. Her job took her around the world and you can’t do that with young children. He earns so much that she doesn’t need to work. This isn’t a situation of marrying for a meal ticket and she didn’t marry up, either. She married someone who was at the start of his career who had plans for his future and goals to achieve them.

Many women don’t consider that they will need time off after having children.

My own child has SEN. I’ve had to leave work to care for him in his early development as what I do now will impact the rest of his life. I can’t be coming home at 9pm from the office (which is something that often happened).

As I was a lot older when I settled down I was a lot more ruthless in who I would have a relationship with. Financial security was incredibly important to me as I had wasted time on men who were lazy and earned less than me.

Nobody said just marry your best friend and ignore everything else.

Surely just marrying for money can be just as stupid. Fancy holidays isn’t everything.

Mrsnothingthanks · 20/11/2025 19:37

@Muffinmam So you only ever want an man who earns more than you so you can pack up work? Wow.

Cleikumstovies · 20/11/2025 13:50

Before going back onto considering dating or a relationship decide what you want in a partner
Kind
Considerate
Not a drinker
Not violent, or "angry"
Intelligent
Not onto sports

There were my red lines. Perhaps I lost out when disregarding one or two but after 30 years of being single found someone who meets all.

Oh and you will never change him. Never.

Muffinmam · 20/11/2025 13:41

PollyBell · 17/11/2025 06:09

So how much is any of this money earnt by the woman, or are men only good as a bank?

My cousin that is married to a banker used to out earn him. However, she couldn’t work after having children. Her job took her around the world and you can’t do that with young children. He earns so much that she doesn’t need to work. This isn’t a situation of marrying for a meal ticket and she didn’t marry up, either. She married someone who was at the start of his career who had plans for his future and goals to achieve them.

Many women don’t consider that they will need time off after having children.

My own child has SEN. I’ve had to leave work to care for him in his early development as what I do now will impact the rest of his life. I can’t be coming home at 9pm from the office (which is something that often happened).

As I was a lot older when I settled down I was a lot more ruthless in who I would have a relationship with. Financial security was incredibly important to me as I had wasted time on men who were lazy and earned less than me.

BaronessBomburst · 18/11/2025 17:27

proximalhumerous · 17/11/2025 13:41

Do your DH and DS not do anything to help, even if it's participating in tasks and decisions? I'm not saying you're wrong in your assumption, but one of the unenjoyable burdens I find about being permanently single is having to do everything and decide everything on your own whether it be "fun things" (choosing new furniture or booking a holiday) or stressful things like sorting out a leaky pipe. 100% of everything falls to you 100% of the time and I find that very wearing.

That's a good point.

Yes, they do both participate to varying degrees, and with varying amounts of interest. I think the hardest thing I find is that having solved a problem, DH will reject my solution outright, but without offering an alternative. It's very frustrating as I invest time and energy but without any result. To that end I think that being 100% responsible might be preferable?
I had lived alone for about six years before we married and I don't remember who I made decisions with. I must have discussed things with friends or family, I suppose.

godmum56 · 18/11/2025 09:45

FishMouse · 16/11/2025 19:19

There is no one truth because everyone is different. Stupid question.

this

Mummyof2andthatsenough · 17/11/2025 18:47

Don't spend so much money, time and effort on the wedding, spend it on the marriage.

Kreepture · 17/11/2025 14:24

FeistyFrankie · 16/11/2025 22:12

Surely this is just stating the obvious

Not really, love makes you overlook stuff that you might faintly disagree on because they aren't an issue at the time.

in my case my exH and i had music in common, and some films, and gaming, but after we married and he started being a bit difficult, i started to realise i didn't like his SoH, and i disagreed to the point of stark opposites with his political views which were becoming more entrenched and right wing the older he got... i was becoming more liberal the older i got... and i realised we were never actually 'friends' like i'm friends with my actual friends who i share fundamental things with.. like politics, religion, ethics & morality.

People change as they age, so there will be some natural drift, but when you look at the person you married and realise actually there is nothing you like about them/their personality, you're fucked.

Mustmakemarmalade · 17/11/2025 13:43

Why married 'ladies' and single 'women' ?

proximalhumerous · 17/11/2025 13:41

BaronessBomburst · 16/11/2025 19:32

I love DH, I love DS, but my life would be so much easier if I lived alone. Less housework, less responsibility, less remembering for other people.
Wife-work is definitely real. You end up judged even for things that other members of your immediate family do/ don't do.

Do your DH and DS not do anything to help, even if it's participating in tasks and decisions? I'm not saying you're wrong in your assumption, but one of the unenjoyable burdens I find about being permanently single is having to do everything and decide everything on your own whether it be "fun things" (choosing new furniture or booking a holiday) or stressful things like sorting out a leaky pipe. 100% of everything falls to you 100% of the time and I find that very wearing.

BeetlejuiceBeetlejuice · 17/11/2025 13:37

You live. You die. The only two things anyone really knows for certain.

Imbrocator · 17/11/2025 13:35

What a bizarre question - what secret advice do you think married women have that women in any other relationship don’t have? The only difference is a contract. If you’re looking for things women should know before getting married, it’s learning what legal responsibilities they’re signing up for before they put their names down in the registry office. Everything else is the same as any romantic relationship.

Millytante · 17/11/2025 13:11

Mrsnothingthanks · 17/11/2025 12:25

@Millytante Agreed, but in the same vein, many women still declare they are "proud to be a Mrs Hisname".

Oh absolutely!
It’s that title which has always rendered the addition of ‘Ms’ to our choice of titles a problematic solution.

Suffice it to say, I reckon all adult women will need to be titled ‘Mrs’ at some point, (though personally I think lifelong ‘Miss’ is best).
Like ‘Madame’ in France
Married women for whom the title is a proud boast will always stand in the way of any universal female title which denies it to them, but we do need one all the same.
A title, useful as one is in our society, needs to be as utterly neutral as ‘Mr’ is, and until that is the case, women are in an inferior position owing to having three flipping titles to choose from.

We have to stop and declare something about ourselves on all kinds of official forms, and even the use of ‘Ms’ is not the simple and neutral choice it was intended to be. Merely choosing to use this non-committal title actually states a position, and it’s the necessity to need to do that which infuriates me so.

Until we are all titled by one universal female title, we still have a weight attached to one ankle compared to men in this matter.
It sounds petty, maybe, but it’s all part of a lingering undermining of equality, keeping us in second place in ways other than the much greater equality issues campaigned and fought about.

Oof! Rant over 🙄

babyno2duejuly2026 · 17/11/2025 12:33

Wait until you find the right person.

Don’t feel like you need to be married or that being single makes you any less of a woman.

It’s better to be single and happy than in a relationship with someone you’re not truly happy with.

A lot of people getting engaged and married because they think it’s the done thing. They don’t like to be single, they think oh I’m 30 so I better be married. Then they end up marrying someone who becomes a awful husband and a hands off parent.

Nevereatcardboard · 17/11/2025 12:28

Be honest, kind and respectful towards each other. Physical attraction matters but everything that happens in the other 23 and 3/4 hours a day matters more!

Mrsnothingthanks · 17/11/2025 12:25

@Millytante Agreed, but in the same vein, many women still declare they are "proud to be a Mrs Hisname".

Millytante · 17/11/2025 12:18

birdling · 16/11/2025 22:26

I like being married. It makes me feel good that someone thought me special enough to want to marry me.

God that’s a terrible thing to admit (but then, the whole engagement ring industry depends on it)

Peridoteage · 17/11/2025 07:59

Don't plan a wedding

Plan a marriage.

Expect that lust will not be what underpins it long term. It will be shared values and goals, companionship, friendship.

Talk about what you want, what you think is important, talk about plans for children and how you want to raise them. Ive seen marriages fail because one partner doesn't think its important to support children with hobbies & encourage them in education and the other thinks this is a huge part of parenting.

DarkRootsBlue · 17/11/2025 07:55

What a lazy thread. OP written in AI, then the odd comment thrown in to keep the content flowing. Reminds me of the thread the other day urging for people to ‘reconnect’ with someone and then come back and share the results. No personal input from the OP, just draining other people.

DonicaLewinsky · 17/11/2025 07:36

ThatCyanCat · 16/11/2025 21:48

Hard agree. I've seen no evidence that unmarried women do less of the domestic work overall than married ones, but they do lack the legal protection. Inevitably some women are better off unmarried for various reasons, but at a class level, marriage protects and benefits women more than being unmarried.

Yep!

Patriarchy is very happy indeed when women take on the caring labour without even the imperfect protection that marriage offers. If we were going to not do any of it at all, would be different... but we do.

WinterBerry40 · 17/11/2025 07:22

curious79 · 16/11/2025 19:28

The surprise to me (second time round) was how much better our relationship felt by getting married. It feels like we’re in it together. I wasn’t in that space before

All the cliches - they don’t change, having children won’t improve a relationship etc etc - are all tried and true.

ultimately if it’s not all bloody fantastic before you get married it definitely won’t be afterwards

everyone should have pre marriage counselling - the amount of unsaid expectation you both carry into a marriage is extraordinary. What marriage means, what should change, what should be shared - everything that should happen now you’re married. This would be my most important piece of advice. You need to understand what each of you are carrying.

Not for everyone . We lived together for 20 years before we got married and it doesn't feel any different to before .

tuvamoodyson · 17/11/2025 07:17

RuncibleSpoons · 16/11/2025 19:26

I’m married, but I’m not a ‘lady’ 🤮

I’d say marry someone kind, who comes from a nice drama-free family.

I’m a married lady. Have been for many years, I married my best friend and were a great team! ❤️

RhaenysRocks · 17/11/2025 07:09

RitaFromThePitCanteen · 16/11/2025 19:20

Perhaps not all us lowly single women aspire to be married ladies, OP. Or to have our reality checked by them, for that matter.

Then don't read the thread, Christ!