So who is going to be brave enough to ask whether Shabana Mahmood's proposed reforms are right/sensible/racist?

WTF?? Surely this can't be true? But then again, nothing surprises me.

Don't tell me, going to tell me about Sharia courts now?!
What you're writing is total fear-mongering bollocks.

Exactly. All this hyperbole about less than 1% of immigrants- the asylum seekers arriving by boat. When we would not even notice them if it weren’t for the fact immigration is sky high on the legal, paid for a very expensive visa side of the coin.

On it's own, maybe, but when other measures such as announced today, it will begin to have an impact on the people who want to risk a very dangerous boat journey?

Nah, you hear people complain about too many immigrants using the NHS, schools, houses, getting money, blah blah as well.

The reason there is so many immigrants in the UK is the gov gave them visas to work/study/be with family here, the same gov's who made cuts on everything else we need - then blamed the very immigrants they let in.

I’m seeing a lot of spin around Mahmood atm, I don’t rate Starmer though.

On the family reunification it’s more likely to alter the age of men arriving so they’re younger and single, and also push women and children to take the risk as they can’t get here otherwise. Look out for more bad outcomes in the Channel if so.

I am saying the smugglers make sure to take every last penny they have. Many stop in France to do crimes to raise the cash for the smugglers.

This is a perfectly reasonable and well articulated post. It is a very good example of how people can express concerns about migration without resorting to racist rhetoric. I wish everyone could approach the subject in this kind of measured way.

You make some good points, and I don't disagree with them. Though personally, I would prefer to see the introduction of a statutory duty to house homeless British people instead of scrapping the duty to house asylum seekers. It shouldn't have to be a race to the bottom, and nobody should have to sleep on the street.

I agree with you that inequalities in our society need to be tackled, but pitting one vulnerable group against another isn't the answer imo. Yes, these things need to be addressed, but there are much bigger, deeper structural issues that are far more important to tackle in my view. The focus on migrants and migration is often just a convenient distraction that many in the elite are happy to perpetuate.

Laughable you’d think they would arrive with thousands of pounds in their pockets, 😝

What this Hungary
Illegal migration remains active and there is no change on the horizon “that would reduce the number of people leaving [their homelands, or change or possibly eliminate the profit of people smuggling organisations,” György Bakondi, the prime minister’s domestic security advisor, told M1 on Friday, adding that Hungary will have to “live with” illegal migration in the long term.

Continue reading at https://dailynewshungary.com/security-advisor-illegal-migration/ | DailyNewsHungary

Are you saying they pay nothing to get on a smuggler boat?

Right out of Farage's mouth 😅

Whilst I agree immigrants are not to blame for the state of the economy, that's not the main reason I see that people are against immigration. It's more to do with overcrowding, community cohesion, antisocial behaviour, incompatible cultures, etc.

How about you read back what you just wrote?
and then ask yourself, how did they end up in a death trap in the middle of the sea with nothing but the clothes on their backs?

Homeless but somehow able to pay thousands to smugglers to get here?

It's the idea that I should be totally oppressed due to being a woman that worries me in terms of letting in men from cultures that treat women as second class citizens (or worse). We already have parts of the country populated by people perpetuating the deeply sexist cultures of their (or their parents'/grandparents') countries of origin. We should have clamped down on that years ago. Asylum seekers are a red herring here, we've let people in legally who want to remove women's rights.

It's a pretty similar situation re. homophobia. It's precisely those people who, in large enough numbers (bearing in mind the high birth rate to these cultures!), will destroy the hard won rights of gay people and women.

As for the UK being at war - I'd rather take my chances and stay with my loved ones than run away to some country where I'm considered lesser and in danger for being female. If I had to flee I would obviously choose a country that is at least vaguely similar culturally - why don't the asylum seekers coming here do that?

In our town they have actually gone beserk! I cannot believe they actually got off their arses finally! Very thankful but honestly what took so long. Shops getting raided and closed left right and centre.

Poland seem to doing very well, not allowing any illegal immigrants in

It cannot be fair that if you are a man that turns up illegally on our shores and claims asylum, that you are given free accommodation, whether in an HMO, disused barracks or hotels. However, if a UK single male ends up homeless for whatever reason, they are bottom of the pile for obtaining accommodation and are expected to pitch a tent somewhere.

Myth. Many asylum seekers are also homeless.

Or UK citizens who get married to non-UK citizens who then have to jump through hoops to bring their partners to live in the UK but those granted asylum and leave to remain have a much easier route to bring not only partners and children to the UK but also extended family members.

Myth. The same income requirements apply to all family visas. In fact partners of British citizens can fast track to naturalisation, something not available to the partners of settled refugees.

When their 'boat' sinks, do they have any redress from their tour operators ?

That was a terrible mistake by Starmer. I don't think Shabana ever believed that policy was racist though. If you read the book Get In about last year's election, she comes across as much tougher & smarter than him. The last page would be hilarious if it were novel not real life- 'There was still much the PM did not understand about politics...'

Moreover, I accept family reunification will not end the flow of men coming. But it will surely be some deterrent.

Why are you opposed to removing it? Surely you don't think keeping it would help stop the flow?

She won't restrict anything. Just more gaslighting and utter bs.