To think a lot of MN are ableist?

I am loathed to engage with you again and potentially further derail an important discussion about ableism on MN but I just could not let this go unanswered. If I were you I would have taken my suggestion that you were involved in an elaborate satire and used it as your 'get out of jail free' card. Admitting you were playing a grotesque comic character would have saved you the intense embarrassment of admitting that your ridiculous, ignorant and offensive posts are actually for real.
Laying aside your claims to have enjoyed a career in the financial sector while simultaneously seeming to have no idea how our economy works and profering the kind of poorly thought out 'solution' a drunk down the pub would have been ashamed to slur out to their mates after a dozen pints, your views on disabled children are absolutely chilling.
Who are you to declare that disabled children's lives are not worth living? What gives you the right to state that they are less valuable than your life?
I was born severely physically disabled, with the kind of disabilities that heartless and ignorant people like you, lacking any imagination, would probably have thought would mean I would never do anything worthwhile. Luckily, my wonderful parents didn't hold such horrifying views and fought tooth and nail to give me the best education and childhood possible. As a result I excelled academically at school, received a first class degree from a top university, have a rewarding job I love, own my own home and, most importantly, am very happily married with a perfect baby.
I have a great life which is absolutely worthwhile and I am forever grateful that appalling eugenicists like yourself weren't in power when I was born to decide that I was going to be just too expensive to support and would never amount to anything.
What is frightening is that, given you are posting on here, there is a good chance you are a parent, possibly a grandparent. This causes me to fear for your family in the event any of them were to be born or become disabled, which, please remember, can happen to anyone at any time. I hope that seeing someone close to you experiencing the challenges associated with disability may cause you to develop some belated compassion, as it has done for so many others who showed no empathy for disabled people until disability came knocking on their door. However, maybe your humanity, like your spelling, is another skill you have let slip since you quit working.

Well I don’t know about you lot, but I think Dick Lice’s little tantrum about ear defenders in school was a fine example of the type of ableism we’re confronted with daily on here.

Kids with sensory issues using reasonable adjustments to access education: <shakes fist>

Thousands of SEN kids having no education at all: <crickets>

It was Cloudfare which is a network used by several websites, apps etc a lot of things were down including X but it's all sorted now by the looks of it.

Cloudflare down LIVE: X, Spotify, ChatGPT, Mumsnet and Bet365 suffer outage - Mirror Online

i could talk to you ALL day about that kind of general crap after dealing with 2 kids with AuDHD who're now both at College.

Absolutely!

Yes, sorry about getting caught up in the hijack. I won’t answer that poster again. I also want to discuss ableism, after our negative experiences with high school and the criticisms from well-meaning family members.

Let me know when we're back to discussing ablism, not going on about someone's mad fantasy thread hijack.

I've read a lot of posts by @Kirbert2 about her child. Absolutely heartbreaking

All I can say is Fuck Cancer.
Xxxx

Honestly, you just don't have a choice. You get thrown into this new world of chemotherapy and central lines and neutropenia and signing consent forms which include risks of the chemotherapy causing heart failure and a secondary cancer in the future but if they don't have it? The current cancer will kill them and you want to hide from the world and scream WHY MY CHILD? but that child, your child is scared and asking if they are going to die and they need you and you are there for them and all of a sudden it becomes your new normal.

He's been in remission for just over a year now, he's disabled due to some horrendous complications but he's amazing and wonderful and HERE which is all that matters. He's coping well considering how different his life is now. I'm incredibly proud of him.

Yes, devastating. I dont know how parents like you coped. My friend always said, I'm not coping, I'm just carrying on.

I hope both you and your son are doing well now.

That's just devastating.

My son had cancer last year and it was awful enough watching your child suffer and fight so much to live. I couldn't imagine not been able to afford things such as a general, lumbar punctures are so critical. Not just for diagnosing and establishing what stage the cancer is at but also for preventative chemo as part of treatment in the hopes of stopping it from spreading to the central nervous system.

My son had a lumbar puncture under general as part of his treatment 8 times plus 2 other times for diagnosis and staging reasons so 10 lumbar punctures in total.

If all Healthcare was private then standards for those who can afford it would be higher yes. But at the cost of those who can't. Ive lived in other countries and I can promise you Healthcare for those who cant afford the best is dire. I've seen friends in tears because insurance wont allow a child with cancer to have a lumbar puncture without a general, but they cant afford to fund a general themselves. Ive seen people choosing between insulin and kids shoes. Ive seen wealthy people bankrupted by road accidents.

You dont know what youre advocating for.

Many people wouldn't have the money to pay for private policing. Obviously the rape conviction rate is awful but ensuring some rape victims would never get even a chance at justice because they wouldn't be able to afford it is also pretty damn awful.

^This absolutely. And the PP didn’t answer my question about murder victims. Would the police really not investigate if there was no one to pay them? Obviously that wouldn’t be the intention, but who would pay the police for doing it? At the very least, some public money would be needed if there was no one alive to pay for the investigation.

And what about protecting the public from rapists and murderers? Who would pay for the life sentences that the public deserves and expects?

It's very clear that you are speaking from a financially privileged point of view with very little thought for the many people out there who can't afford private healthcare or private anything..

Many people wouldn't have the money to pay for private policing. Obviously the rape conviction rate is awful but ensuring some rape victims would never get even a chance at justice because they wouldn't be able to afford it is also pretty damn awful.

How well does the current system work. Frontline police have been falling for years and investigations take so much longer nowadays due to cyber crime and social media.

People openly shoplifting and the police are not interested. Is this better than paying for a service and having it dealt with.

Rape victims hardly ever get convictions. Most of them won't even try as they know they will be dragged through the mud. The percentage of rapists going to prison v the number of offences is tiny. So would you pay to have a more thorough investigation and your rapist punished. Or would you rather it was 'free' (not really) and fails to get results.

It's fine if you disagree. I am just pointing out that our current system is failing horribly. It did use to work quite well when we had policeman on the beat and the internet was not a thing etc.

Yes that is what has happened in the NHS because the NHS still very much has a monopoly on healthcare in this country. So if profits are maximised and service is poor then people will still attempt to use it.

If all healthcare was private and hospitals were competing with each other based on the normal things then I would expect the competition to raise standards.

I live in the UK and have watched the NHS go from working pretty well in the seventies/eighties to just not coping now. I admit I have started using private healthcare myself to bypass the system as it is often poor, slow and better services are available by paying. I'd be happy to continue to use the NHS if it worked but I just find it is not coping anymore.

I'm a victim of crime and call the police - I pay for them to come and deal with.
Supermarket shoplifting - the supermarket pays. Yes I know there are holes and yes so much more thought would have to go into it but given that we are commenting on yet another thread (dozens a day it seems) with people venting their frustrating at getting taxed more to pay for others, sick of disabled people and their cars, all the SEN kids and outrage at what people are getting in money etc

So a rape victim should pay to have her rapist tried and convicted? Or a victim of CSA should have their parents pay? (I’m speaking as a victim here.).

And what about when the victim has been murdered? Should the family pay for justice?

I agree that there’s an argument that criminals should be compelled to pay their own legal fees and imprisonment, but, apart from criminals like Epstein, who could afford realistically to pay legal fees and many years of incarceration? If, as I assume, you want long sentences to protect the public?

And who would pay the judges and barristers, and prison officers?

In practice, no one could afford to pay and we’d end up with vigilante justice, as the families wouldn’t be able to pay for proper justice.

That isn’t just naive, it’s ludicrous. And thankfully it won’t ever happen.

Sorry very well educated as it goes although it does seem a long time ago now. When i went to uni grants were still being dished out. Economic/financial career which allowed me to retire very early.

I admit my posts came from a financial point of view of our country is a mess so how do we fix it. Plus it had the advantage of stopping all the anger that is seen on here daily about funding benefits for others.

I read on here about people sitting in A&E for 18 hours crying in their own vomit. I was suggesting a system where it was private and paid for but much better. I would argue that the current system is becoming pretty unusable or inhumane if you want to call it that.

I'm afraid that with retiring early I have a great interest in political affairs, economic matters and financial things. I do spend alot of time watching and reading. Yes my suggestion was a bit 'flip' and in response to all the threads here about the state of the country, people sick of taxes to pay for benefits etc

the country has changed greatly since the eighties. Yes there were benefits but it was seen as so much more shameful to be on them. I'm pretty sure lots of the benefits that seem to exist today did not exist back then. Of course many of our problems come from the rising house prices which has made people struggle to afford a home on their wages without benefit top ups. In the seventies the goverment spent x amount building council houses. Now they spent just as much paying for temporary accomodation/housing benefit etc.

Whether we like it or not many of our systems were designed when the population was less, when people did not live as long and when the vast majority of the population was not on benefits or out of work. I can't imagine anyone on here thinks the NHS is coping nowadays or that the country is overcrowded.