To think a lot of MN are ableist?

In my LA any child over 3 miles from their school can apply for council transport, not just the SEN students.

Most SEN schools has transport be ause they're usually far away from the child's home.

The thread is certainly showing some people’s ableism.

So, you think there's an epidemic of people falsely claiming to be disabled?
I would consider myself to be disabled as I was born without eyes and with multiple joint deformities, perhaps an expert on identifying genuine disabilities, like your good self, may wish to correct me.
I hate to think of you losing sleep over the lavish tax-payer funded life of luxury us PIP claimants all live, so, let me assure you that the adaptive technology, equipment and carers I require to function, look after my family and, shock horror, work, are not remotely covered by my monthly PIP payments. I am, in fact, worse off than someone earning the same amount as me but without my disability related costs. I hope you find this comforting.

@ThatChristmasMug a child can get help with transport to school even without SEN. There clear guidelines for distance (would have to look them up). If the nearest suitable school is a certain distance away, any child is entitled to help with transport. It's just that most children without SN will be able to attend a school within this distance whilst many with SEN are forced to travel huge distances as there is no provision locally. It's not just about SEN. If your child's closest suitable school would be 20/30/40 miles away, you would get the same support. HTH

Nope you’re incorrect. Unbelievably schools actually turn down kids who can cope in mainstream, sometimes even if they have an EHCP.

Most people are compassionate but the problem is that Sen does cover a huge spectrum of needs, and one person’s reasonable adjustments is disruptive for other persons child, a mismatch. I was (am but she’s an adult now) a mother of an autistic child whose schooling was made intolerable due to low level disruptive behaviour in class, chatter, seat scraping, interrupting teacher so you can see why there isn’t automatic sympathy. This is only one example of where two sets of needs clash.

school transport seems to lack empathy here too, probably because many families are struggling with paying for transport then others get it for free, hence lack of understanding.

I would say in general most people are compassionate especially at higher level needs though, I’ve always had plenty when I’ve posted for advice

can he?

All children live at walking distance from their school, do they? All PRIMARY school children live at walking distance, don't need an adult with them before and after school?

You are sure about that?

Let’s also remember that these people out there who also have serious health conditions and are in constant pain, but work and don’t claim PIP, for whatever reason.
Not every working person is out there living a health life in an able-body. People deal with all sorts of things.

I have a life limiting auto immune disease, aswell as narcolepsy. Believe me, life is bloody tough for me every single day. Please don’t think that everyone out there working is skipping around in the picture of health. Many of us aren’t.

I don't get your point?

About 20℅ of people with Autism work

If a child can cope with mainstream education, they can go to the local school and it is almost always parental choice if they go further away.

That isn't the same if a child can't cope in mainstream education and the only available option is miles away.

Similar applies to all children who have to go school 3+ miles away I believe such as rural locations etc.

Many non-disabled DC receive school transport.

There is definitely a lot of ableism on here. The attitude to disabled people who can’t work is appalling. I saw a few posters saying disabled people should stay home if they can’t cope with life when a disabled person had been pushed out of the way getting onto a train. The number of goady threads about ND is shocking. Mumsnet have admitted to having at least one very persistent autism troll but still leave the obvious troll posts up. Peoples attitudes towards reasonable adjustments at work and that children get at school are awful and shocking. I read some posters on a thread saying that ND children get an advantage over the ‘normal kids’ because they get extra time in their exam or get a reader/scribe. Sometimes they’re deleted but other times you’re told to challenge on the thread. Then you challenge and get deleted.

Hopefully Justine does actually crack down on this stuff because the site is a shit hole atm.

It’s a spectrum. Are you this abelist towards visible disabilities?

Because many SEN children are being refused access to their local school due to the school saying they can’t meet their needs. They then have to go distances to other schools. Not sure I could get any of my kids to school 40 minutes in the other direction to where I work and my other kids go to school every day let alone afford a taxi .

@FoughtIt Sweetheart, a large chunk of the world’s population is Autistic… Of course they can bloody work! Elon Musk is Autistic, Bill Gates is Autistic, Albert Einstein is believed to have been Autistic, along with Isaac Newton, Charles Darwin, Tim Burton, Andy Warhol, Van Gogh, Leonardo DaVinci, Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, Jane Austen, Steven Spielberg, Alexander Graham Bell (inventor of the telephone!), Benjamin Franklin, Alfred Hitchcock, I could go on & on & on. Are you getting my point?!?

I don’t know about some of the comments mentioned. I think it is difficult to make any comment sometimes without being accused of being discriminatory, my view is that SEN provision is lacking in many places, however there are limited resources and sadly schools have to balance their budgets. Sometimes that may be at the expense of different competing demands, budget for the arts and music has been cut, teaching assistants used to substitute for teaching staff etc etc and sometimes Sen provision is also impacted. I think it is reasonable to say that an Sen child’s need is not more important than other children , it is just different. Sadly it is the average well behaved child that gets overlooked.

I said that my (very bright) DS is too tired after university to also hold a P/T job (he is Audhd) and some charmer told me that there was no point in him going to university then as he wasn’t fit to cope with it. It actually made me cry because it was so nasty.

I dont pay for my non disabled child to attend school.

Nor do I pay for his medical care.

Its quite radical to suggest all parents are financially responsible and pay for education and medical care.

Its certainly abelist to suggest only parents of disabled children should.

The levels of autism in China
are roughly the same around 1%. They have cultural stigmas towards SEN.

Some independent SS accept self funders rather than always being funded via EHCPs.

Note, that is not me saying parents should pay or that all can. They shouldn’t have to and many won’t be able to. Merely a note that some independent SS do accept self funders.

No. Only the children who NEED it

But your non disabled child can go to the local school. Not every disabled child can