Donald Trump BBC

The infrastructure for live tv. For freeview, too.

Yes this is what makes me cross too. The whole speech was a disjointed, incomprehensible rant about fake media, big tech, democrats and individual state results and suspected election fraud and how he believed he should have won the election so editing the sections they did just plays right into his hands. Whether you believe he meant to incite violence or not, in law he did not actually explicitly tell people to fight so they should not have edited it to make it look that way.

The man has deep pockets and gets his lawyers out at the slightest thing so they should not have given him the opportunity.

You still haven’t explained the infrastructure we need to pay for as part our TV licence.

Why are Sky, Netflix, Amazon, etc. not paying for the infrastructure, shouldn't they and their customers chip in as well. Surely paying for the infrastructure is something from the old days when it was just 4 channels and it was down to the BBC.

I was t mislead. Ido t think anyone was. It was stupid and unnecessary, and should have been picked up before broadcast, but it didn’t mislead. His behaviour shows he wanted that insurrection.
You arent forced to pay for it either.

And this proves my point exactly. It’s not about what was said and Obama or Biden wouldn’t do it, it’s about the BBC knowingly misleading viewers. They’ve damaged their own reputation and by apologising they’ve admitted they are guilty. I hope they get sued for everything and we can finally see the back of the tv licence. And no I don’t care about the BBC orchestra, I care about honesty and impartiality from something we are forced to pay for.

And you can watch your streaming without paying.

Yes, I do feel rather held over a barrel with that, if you want to watch any live sport you need a licence, little point in watching it after the event. Also watching Sky you need it and all the other channels. That is the part that really annoys me too

About time the BBC got their cumuppance. I hope they go bust. But us mugs the licence payers will end up footing the bill.

Explain?
Other streaming services work just fine. We pay and we watch.
All TV will be internet in a few years anyway

The BBC could have done many things to show that the parts of the speech came at different times; swipes between sections, or timestamps. They knew exactly what they were doing, but their dislike of Trump is so strong they just don’t care - that dislike overrides the need for factual reporting, seemingly. They care more about creating a narrative for people to mindlessly swallow instead of presenting the facts so individuals can use their own judgement.

God knows I’m not a fan of Trump, but I hate to see anyone being misrepresented in this way. It’s offensive to the public at large that they feel this is either necessary or acceptable, an insult to our intelligence. I’d feel the same no matter who was treated this way.

Infrastructure.

It's worse than that.

They stitched two separate sentences together as if they were one.

As if you said "I hate boiled hotdogs," and "Candy corn is pretty fine though" and they made you say, "I hate candy corn."

Whether or not you are actually lying about the candy corn is beside the point. That's a judgement and the BBC doesn't get to assume that and tell everyone else it's true.

Obama or Biden wouldn’t have incited insurrection, so it wouldn’t have arisen. What they did was stupid and shouldn’t have happened, but it didn’t change the thrust of what he was saying.

If what had been done? Poor splicing that doesn’t alter the main thrust of what he said?
Have a look what’s been done by the BBC to left wing figures. Corbyn in a Russian hat, for eg. Nobody sued them or called for them to be ‘brought down’.

If it was Obama or Biden we’d have a totally different response, some people are so narrow minded they can’t see past it being Trump and don’t care about the bigger picture.

Even if we don’t watch anything BBC, if we watch ANY live TV that is not BBC we have to pay the license. I have a massive issue with that.

If this had been done to someone you all considered to be “acceptable” would those defending the BBC still be happy to defend it?
The character of Trump is irrelevant here. The editing of the clip intended to mislead.

1. No, they lean right in news programming. Still more trustworthy than most
2. Extort and scare who?
3. They are a subscription service. Don’t use the things they fund, don't pay. Remembering they fund the infrastructure too.

As an aside - fo you value the arts at all? BBC orchestras? BBC singers?

Yes but it’s not just a programme to reinforce what you alone already think.

Do you work for the BBC @cardibach

Which American goods will you stop buying?

In Trump's speech he said: "We're going to walk down to the Capitol, and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women."

More than 50 minutes later in the speech, he said: "And we fight. We fight like hell."

In the Panorama programme the clip shows him as saying: "We're going to walk down to the Capitol and I'll be there with you. And we fight. We fight like hell."

The BBC are news broadcasters. And regardless of whether or not it manipulated you, the intention was to manipulate the viewing public.

They aren't impartial.
They extort people. Scare vulnerable people.
They should be a subscription service.