To think my friend was racist, rude or both?

She was racist for sure but do you think you’re more English than someone who is black and English born but whose parents came from Jamaica because you’re white South African / half European?

Whiteness does not confer Englishness.

YANBU if you’re offended on behalf of all non-white immigrants, not just yourself.

She said in the OP she was born here so why wouldn't she be a citizen? 🤔 🙄

I would let her stay as she intended (to avoid drama) but would fade the friendship out after this.

There are indeed massive double standards wrt white people immigrating. The Brits abroad are ex pats don't you know?!

What do you mean by 'natives'? How far back are you going? What do you mean by 'over run'. These really aren't the right terms to be using and you certainly aren't brave to be using them.
It is possible to have a discussion and express the perspective that we have had too much immigration in the last 30 years without putting it in such a foolish way.
The OP's ? ex friend is racist. The OP is British and has grown up in the UK.

As it tends to with 'these people'.

Yeah, she'd be an EX friend for me, and real quick!

Whoooooosh. So that went right over your head then…

I wonder if she’s xenophobic or antisemetic? I don’t know if it matters but I wonder what part of you she deems unacceptable. So many options nowadays.

I have reform neighbours who started talking about the issues of immigration over the fence. I was being way too polite about it as I have to live here and just edging away but it was bewildering to me. My husband and I immigrated here 20 years ago from the states ‘and’ their daughter immigrated to Australia 15 years ago. I can only assume this is all fine as we are white and English speaking? Super gross and I eventually had to shut it down firmly and walk away. We stick to weather chat now which is fine.

My children and I are also Jewish so sometimes I don’t know if the issue people have with me is about immigration or religion - have had unsettling experiences on both topics over the last year. So many reasons for hate, but none of them are worth it.

anyway I’d bin her yesterday. Appreciate it’s hard in the moment but get her out. You’ll just feel icky otherwise. And I’d want her to never speak to my kids anyway.

Of course I don't - Abu Hamza was British and he was not white. I am not conflating skin tone and Britishness, of course not.

Natives? Wtf?!

Just to be clear, you are not being brave and you are not saying what everyone else is thinking. You speak for a repugnant minority.

Why are you friends with her? She sounds horrible and not someone I would want as a friend

Neither is the racist agitating.

What has immigration got to do with this thread? The OP is British. Or are you one of those who doesn’t think she can be if she isn’t ethnically totally white?
Immigration is down, by the way.

There's a certain air of arrogance around a person who believes they "say what everyone else is thinking".

In fact I've never heard anyone who believes they are one of the few brave enough to speak for all have an opinion I agree with yet.

What a revolting thing to say...to anyone. Let alone someone you're close to.

I sincerely hope she's now an ex friend?

This isn't just occurring in the UK.

Natives? Jesus.
Your language is incredibly racist. Over-run? By who? The OP who is a British citizen? (Nobody else is overrunning us either, for clarity).
It isn’t brave to say racist things, it’s really ugly. And everybody else is definitely not thinking it.

Of course she's racist, and I think you need to question your taking offence only when she made the comments specific to you.

It comes across as you saying your ethnic background has more legitimate claim to Britishness because all the parts are white.

You are right, immigration is not the issue, we have an unlimited amount of land and other resources.

I agree, it is unpleasant, but surely you are not denying the natives the right to express their feelings? If people don't want to be over-run, they at least have the right to express their concerns? It is up to you if you want to keep your friendship with them or not, but it is not up to you to police their speech, there is enough policing in place already for those brave enough to say what everybody else is thinking.

So basically, you're not okay. Your husband made you okay.

Lol.

She can vote how she likes. I don’t really know much about reform apart from enough to know I wouldn’t vote for them. However her reasons for voting reform are based on what she perceives as getting rid of outsiders (as she sees them)

Saying OP would be ok is no better than saying you don’t like black people but a black person you know is ok. I know someone who many years ago would say things like that as if it is ok to denigrate a whole race but see one person as ok and think that makes it better.

I wouldn’t vote struggle to be friends with your friend and her views don’t relate to me at all so I can only imagine how it has made you feel.

Absolutely... but I think it kills the debate if you call everyone a Nazi... just a single form of fascism among other dangerous forms.

I would bring her back to the conversation op as she is staying with you. “ What you said earlier, you do realise I am British?” And see where you go from there. My partner is black and he is treated differently to me (white) on a regular basis, it’s infuriating.