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Childminders at soft play

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Hollygolightly89 · 15/11/2025 07:32

I visited a soft play with my 3 year old yesterday morning. There was a group of childminders about 3 or 4 of them and they each had a couple of children. They mostly sat in the baby part of the soft play chatting in a group with their backs turned to the children the whole time and also constantly on their phones, even when the children were eating they were on their phones. Most of the children they had went off into the soft play alone and most of them looked under 2. I was quite shocked by this because if I was paying for a childminder I wouldn’t expect them to be on their phones and my child let loose in the soft play. At various points the children were crying for various reasons and they acted like it was a massive chore to go and get them. I aslo heard them speaking negatively about the children like “oh guess who’s crying again”.

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littleblackcat1 · 15/11/2025 19:05

If you’re a childminder, presumably, at some point you’ve chosen to take a course in childcare because you’re interested in child development and feel that you’d have the flair and aptitude to be able to support this.

I do think that it’s the kind of job where the more you put into it the more rewarding it can be when you are genuinely interested to see how the children in your care thrive and develop from the strategies that you implement.

Unfortunately, there are too many examples of childminders demonstrating a lack of interest in their charges.

arcticpandas · 15/11/2025 19:01

MsCactus · 15/11/2025 12:55

How would you know if they were childminders or inattentive mums though?

One of the things that made me like my childminder was how attentive she was to the kids at baby groups - but because she was so attentive and only had a couple of kids - everyone assumed they were her actual children (and still do assume that when she goes to groups)

I talked to them sometimes when their charges hurt themselves or someone else so I def know they were childminders even though I wouldn't call them that because they did not mind the children. I winded up watching their children as well because I just couldn't not care about the safety of toddlers.

AmusedMaker · 15/11/2025 18:58

A male nursery worker has just been charged with rape and abuse. And some people still think nurseries are the safest option.

Effiex08 · 15/11/2025 18:38

Yanbu. I recently was at a play group with my baby and was shocked it was basically all childminders there and they were complaining about the children! It never occurred to me they'd take the kids to playgroup and I don't know how I feel about that? Made me think twice about leaving my little one with a childminder over nursery. Fully support going out and about with the kids but just gave off a lazy cba vibe.

Venturini · 15/11/2025 18:32

BoudiccaRuled · 15/11/2025 08:02

Wait until you see how some of the parents behave!

This. Parents can be and often are the absolute worst. Oblivious to their 3 year old bodyslamming your 15 month old with a shopping trolley in the play cafe and then walking over in the aftermath muttering ‘what happened?’ as you carry your screaming child away to safety and their three year old zones in on a fresh target.

Thebrink · 15/11/2025 18:29

TheQuirkyMaker · 15/11/2025 09:38

Not all are crap, but it is a job women do when they lack qualifications, like being a beautician, hairdresser or dog groomer. No one, even themselves, expect much, certainly not a career.

Not true in all cases. I had a professional NHS career before I had my first child. I did not return to work because I became very interested in Child Development whilst my child was young so registered as a Childminder. Ironically that was after meeting Childminders at the local toddler group I took my child to.
I went on to take a level 3 qualification in Early Years Care and Education whilst childminding. I was a childminder for 21 years then worked in private day murseries for 2 years before studying for Teaching Assistant qualifications. I was a TA for several years after that. It can be a good career if you are interested enough and don't mind all the regulations and Ofsted involvement.

The families I worked for gave me glowing references and I got great satisfaction seeing the children growing into happy, confident and well rounded individuals.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 15/11/2025 18:27

If anyone has studied childcare in recent years it will be drilled into them that children need freedom to learn through exploration and child led learning; conflict resolution and negotiation is learned through interactions with peers; self care skills and independence promotes self esteem; self regulation of emotions is vital for emotional and social development; imaginative play where the child leads the play is crucial to development etc etc. To summarise, the child develops better when adults take a supportive role and are there for security and comfort but do not try to dominate or lead the play. By being more 'hands off' an adult may be strategically supporting the child to develop socially. The adult who hovers and swoops in to resolve every little issue is the one stifling the child's development. It's something to bear in mind when you see adults 'ignoring' children, you don't really know what is going on by one little snapshot.

werenotgoingonabearhuntagain · 15/11/2025 16:44

RubySquid · 15/11/2025 16:28

Huh? Where am I sneering? And where are my spelling mistakes btw?

Alot is two words.

But I don’t care about the spelling mistakes. Being dismissive about people’s qualifications is just unpleasant.

RubySquid · 15/11/2025 16:29

TJk86 · 15/11/2025 16:19

Ok, I’m guessing we’re all different. To me having a lot of human interaction/small talk with strangers/customers I don’t care about is hell on earth. Much rather spend time and nurture the most important people to me.

Good job you weren't in the caring profession then if you wouldnt care about your clients

RubySquid · 15/11/2025 16:28

werenotgoingonabearhuntagain · 15/11/2025 16:24

And yet you make numerous basic mistakes in your spelling.

I wouldn’t normally point this out but if you’re going to sneer, then it warrants drawing attention to.

Huh? Where am I sneering? And where are my spelling mistakes btw?

werenotgoingonabearhuntagain · 15/11/2025 16:24

RubySquid · 15/11/2025 16:13

Maybe my age group where it was the " less academic " girls shall we say who were pushed towards childcare YTS for example rather than continuing in education

And yet you make numerous basic mistakes in your spelling.

I wouldn’t normally point this out but if you’re going to sneer, then it warrants drawing attention to.

TJk86 · 15/11/2025 16:19

RubySquid · 15/11/2025 16:16

I worked face to face with people so had alot of human interaction at work even if not " socialising " Wasn't a case of sitting at a desk or on phone

No i wouldn't want to spend extended periods with young kids. I much prefer them as they get older. I really enjoyed the teen years above all else

But too many people on here seem to think if you don't live " toddler" stuff then you shouldn't have kids. Strange really

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Ok, I’m guessing we’re all different. To me having a lot of human interaction/small talk with strangers/customers I don’t care about is hell on earth. Much rather spend time and nurture the most important people to me.

RubySquid · 15/11/2025 16:16

TJk86 · 15/11/2025 16:12

How much socialising do you do at work? Surely you spend most of your time working. As I said, you sound like you wouldn’t want to spend extended periods with your child even if money was no object which is why I said it was sad.

I worked face to face with people so had alot of human interaction at work even if not " socialising " Wasn't a case of sitting at a desk or on phone

No i wouldn't want to spend extended periods with young kids. I much prefer them as they get older. I really enjoyed the teen years above all else

But too many people on here seem to think if you don't live " toddler" stuff then you shouldn't have kids. Strange really

RubySquid · 15/11/2025 16:13

Frieda86 · 15/11/2025 16:06

She's judging others for being thick. I'd get my grammar and punctuation right before I had a pop at other people.

Maybe my age group where it was the " less academic " girls shall we say who were pushed towards childcare YTS for example rather than continuing in education

TJk86 · 15/11/2025 16:12

RubySquid · 15/11/2025 16:02

Again where to " interact" with these people? Park?, ok for an hour in summer, boring as hell otherwise. A 50p toddler group? Maybe lasts an hour.sp that's 2 hours out of 24 sorted and not everyday

Stuck with a kid would be due to not having resources. Whereas BECAUSE I worked i enjoyed spending time off with them, i had adult company and stimulation at work, didn't have to worry about whether we would run out of electric/gas in the flat, could afford to take them swimming and other places

How much socialising do you do at work? Surely you spend most of your time working. As I said, you sound like you wouldn’t want to spend extended periods with your child even if money was no object which is why I said it was sad.

Frieda86 · 15/11/2025 16:06

GarlicBreadStan · 15/11/2025 09:09

What a judgemental, twatty take.

For reference, I am not a childminder, a nanny nor do I work in a nursery.

What a small minded point of view you have.

She's judging others for being thick. I'd get my grammar and punctuation right before I had a pop at other people.

Walkaround · 15/11/2025 16:03

wearyourpinkglove · 15/11/2025 14:27

@TJk86
"It’s nothing to do with what you remember. There is a great body of research showing that it’s best for a parent, ideally the mother, to stay home with a child until around age 3. Author Erica Komisar has written some great pieces on this. In summary:

• The first three years are critical for emotional development. Babies rely heavily on one primary caregiver for consistent comfort and regulation of stress.
• Secure attachment forms through constant, predictable presence.
• A parent’s presence helps regulate cortisol (stress hormone). Young children aren’t neurologically equipped to handle long periods away from their primary caregiver.
• This early emotional foundation affects long-term mental health. Early caregiver consistency is linked to resilience, empathy, and reduced anxiety later in life.

Continues, nurturing care from a primary caregiver in the earliest years best supports healthy emotional and neurological development.

Apart from that, I would not leave a young non-verbal baby/child in someone else’s care (apart from trusted family members). There are too many cases of abuse in childcare nowadays."

You may be interested in Elena Bridgers work. She discusses childrearing in hunter gatherer societies (the way the humans have lived for the vast majority of their existence). Actually babies in these societies are looked after by many different care givers at a time and often only spending around 20% of the time with their mothers.

Babies staying at home with only one care giver is actual very "unnatural" compared to the way that humans have lived for most of our existence.

She critiques the anti daycare/nursery research as it often doesn't take into account good quality vs bad quality staff, amount of time spent at nursery and the relationship with the parents at home.

My daughter has a great relationship with her nursery workers and they are the same people on duty everyday. Whereas if they were poor quality staff of course it would be detrimental.

There is virtually no resemblance between a nursery and a hunter gatherer society. People no longer live in such small communities and we don’t teach our children how to live and survive in our modern communities in remotely the same way.

RubySquid · 15/11/2025 16:02

TJk86 · 15/11/2025 15:43

I get the bit about no money but from what you’re saying, you wouldn’t even want to do if money was no object. “Stuck with a kid”? Your kid, not just any kid. You’re making it sound like they are some terrible inconvenience to you. I would be questioning why I’ve bothered having kids with this sort of attitude (unless there is PND or other mental issues). Also, colleagues are not the only way to have adult company. SAHMs don’t just stay locked in at home 24/7, they go outside with their kid and interact with a lot of different people (if they want to).

Again where to " interact" with these people? Park?, ok for an hour in summer, boring as hell otherwise. A 50p toddler group? Maybe lasts an hour.sp that's 2 hours out of 24 sorted and not everyday

Stuck with a kid would be due to not having resources. Whereas BECAUSE I worked i enjoyed spending time off with them, i had adult company and stimulation at work, didn't have to worry about whether we would run out of electric/gas in the flat, could afford to take them swimming and other places

Walkaround · 15/11/2025 15:58

wearyourpinkglove · 15/11/2025 14:17

@Notagain75
Yes I am definitely thinking about child minders. I'm not mainland UK so we don't have OFSTED but there are inspections. But OFSTED aren't there everyday like a nursery manager would be overseeing the care given. And of course you get poor nurseries but I just prefer to have more eyes on my child as then if there is a bad egg it's more likely to be reported.

I know of at least 2 child-minders in my area who are taking in more kids than they are licensed for and charging a cheaper rate...just makes me concerned what else they are doing if they have no regard for the law.

It was a nursery manager who suffocated a child by strapping them to a beanbag - junior staff were too scared of her to put a stop to it.

RubySquid · 15/11/2025 15:56

QuantumPanic · 15/11/2025 13:56

I guess ideally you wouldn't see it as 'being stuck in with a kid', but rather taking care of your child, interacting with them, learning what they're interested in and teaching them about the world. I guess some people naturally find this less fun than others, and obviously there are aspects of childcare that are pretty repetitive/thankless - but if I'm being totally honest, I do raise my eyebrows slightly at people who have so much disdain for being a sahm. It feels like some kind of internalised misogyny ('not like other mums') idk.

But of course everyone is free to decide what's best for their own family, and paying for engaged childcare is probably preferable to babies being looked after by a parent who resents staying at home with them.

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You don't need to be with them 24/7 to do this though. And what could they be interested in if their world is at homenor the park and possibly a 50p toddler group? Nope sorry I don't see how that should possibly be good for either child or pareng

Riddo · 15/11/2025 15:48

I was a childminder/nanny for 40 years and until
I was clearly too old, people always thought I was the mum because I loved the kids and engaged with them. Ime, the ones you can spot are the ones doing the job badly.

TJk86 · 15/11/2025 15:43

RubySquid · 15/11/2025 13:29

Why? For me it would be.. Id have had no money, no company and been stuck in with a kid. Why is that a good thing?

I get the bit about no money but from what you’re saying, you wouldn’t even want to do if money was no object. “Stuck with a kid”? Your kid, not just any kid. You’re making it sound like they are some terrible inconvenience to you. I would be questioning why I’ve bothered having kids with this sort of attitude (unless there is PND or other mental issues). Also, colleagues are not the only way to have adult company. SAHMs don’t just stay locked in at home 24/7, they go outside with their kid and interact with a lot of different people (if they want to).

TJk86 · 15/11/2025 15:36

Walkaround · 15/11/2025 13:09

Sad also, because you will be passing an odious responsibility onto someone else who may well think similarly, doesn’t even love your child because it isn’t theirs, and is only doing it for the money or for access to someone vulnerable.

Exactly. Yes, they will be getting paid minimum wage for their work but people who think that a childminder will take better care of their kids than a parent would because she’s paid, are in my opinion delusional.

IsntItDarkOut · 15/11/2025 15:13

For those who say they can’t remember. I can remember a nursery I went to when I was about 2. I can tell you what the entrance was like and it smelled like soup/hospitals, I get a lurch in my stomach when I smell something similar as I hated going. I mentioned it to my dad and he said they took me out after a few months as I was miserable.
i can also remember the preschool play sessions I went to when I was 3/4.

JingleBongle · 15/11/2025 15:06

Notagain75 · 15/11/2025 13:23

Are you thinking about nannies?
Childminders are very heavily regulated, they have to take complete training , including on the EYFS, first aid, safeguarding before they can even apply for Ofsted registration then there isn't a house check to see if the premises are suitable, which includes checking all adults in the family whether they will.be involved with the children or not, and they are Ofsted inspected in exactly the same way as a nursery.

And who is monitoring who is in an out of that house all day?

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